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Zeus666
10-10-07, 10:31 AM
Humm in dx 9 in the beta is posible the sunshafts , the paralax with occlusion and some more features, like the DX10 screen . This not is the real diference into DX9 /DX10


You are absolutely right!

They are a fuxxxxx liar !

They seems to want just sell more Vista os. :(
Destroy
10-10-07, 10:53 AM
You are absolutely right!

They are a fuxxxxx liar !

They seems to want just sell more Vista os. :(

Or maybe these added features run in DX10 with much less performance loss than in DX9.
mumstheword
10-10-07, 12:14 PM
Low detail looks like far cry.

You can also see they just added more bushes and longer draw distance in DX10 Very High.

I suppose DX10 is just all about the lighting. It looks more realistic.
jeffmd
10-10-07, 01:23 PM
You are absolutely right!

They are a fuxxxxx liar !

They seems to want just sell more Vista os. :(

You do know the sun shafts look now where near as good as the dx10 screenshot? also not verified...has anyone with a dx9 card been able to enable the sunshafts?
evox
10-10-07, 01:24 PM
Is it okay to post the Low/Med/High Comparison of current BETA? I took 4 comparison shots for anyone interested :)
agentkay
10-10-07, 01:29 PM
Is it okay to post the Low/Med/High Comparison of current BETA? I took 4 comparison shots for anyone interested :)

It's against the NDA to post screenshots of the beta so I don't recommend it but it's your choice.

By the way, the screenshots at incrysis were sent from Nvidia and are not based on the retail build either and Ron Taylor gave a hint that there will be more DX10 effects than just the four screenshots have shown.

http://www.incrysis.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=512
Zeus666
10-10-07, 02:19 PM
You do know the sun shafts look now where near as good as the dx10 screenshot? also not verified...has anyone with a dx9 card been able to enable the sunshafts?


There are many screenshots that show Sunshaft in crysis beta tread
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=98166

or in this user Crysis Beta RC3 video

video in 480x360
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/115372.html

the same video in 1920x1080
http://stage6.divx.com/user/Oritxupolitena/video/1717176/Crysis-1080p :captnkill:


However these stuff are taken with DX10 Compliant Card
Jonelo
10-10-07, 02:31 PM
http://stage6.divx.com/user/Oritxupolitena/video/1716441/Crysis---Arabesco-1-Debussy

sun shafts in some scenes
Zeus666
10-10-07, 02:39 PM
http://stage6.divx.com/user/Oritxupolitena/video/1716441/Crysis---Arabesco-1-Debussy

sun shafts in some scenes

:captnkill:
LycosV
10-10-07, 02:59 PM
The depth that is added to the rock/sand texture on very high is impressive, but shouldn't the color of the sand and the lighting be more like low and medium? The sun is in clear view on a sandy beach. I think the high and very high shots look too dark with the sand colors off.
Jonelo
10-10-07, 03:08 PM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/jonelo/Crysis2007-09-2605-39-17-96.jpg
agentkay
10-10-07, 03:14 PM
The depth that is added to the rock/sand texture on very high is impressive, but shouldn't the color of the sand and the lighting be more like low and medium? The sun is in clear view on a sandy beach. I think the high and very high shots look too dark with the sand colors off.

Might actually be HDR/eye adaption effect since you face the sun. When sun is behind you, the sand should be a little bit ligher.
mumstheword
10-10-07, 03:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDbp9ZXl1OM

video is low quality, but this is the best area to see the sunshafts.

The DX9(High) screenshot is strange. There is no haze. However, the beta has haze just like in the dx10 screenshot.
evox
10-10-07, 03:42 PM
It's against the NDA to post screenshots of the beta so I don't recommend it but it's your choice.

By the way, the screenshots at incrysis were sent from Nvidia and are not based on the retail build either and Ron Taylor gave a hint that there will be more DX10 effects than just the four screenshots have shown.

http://www.incrysis.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=512

well, heh, I've already broken the NDA. don't think this will make a difference:p

Crysis IQ Comparison -

Container -
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8179/crysiscontainerlowmedhimx5.th.jpg (http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crysiscontainerlowmedhimx5.jpg)

Sand -
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3232/crysisbeachlowmedhighwe8.th.jpg (http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crysisbeachlowmedhighwe8.jpg)

Garbage Bags -
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/9112/crysisgarbagebagslowmedzm3.th.jpg (http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crysisgarbagebagslowmedzm3.jpg)

Water -
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6779/crysiswaterlowmedhighmb0.th.jpg (http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crysiswaterlowmedhighmb0.jpg)

hope you guys like it:)
nightmare beta
10-10-07, 06:41 PM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/jonelo/Crysis2007-09-2605-39-17-96.jpg

i can imagine those leaves shimmering in motion.

is it 4x aa max and no trss, so it won't make the x360 look bad to people who can't tell that it looks like ****?

also, i'm concerned about the very high textures being blurrier than the high. i've come to a theory. there's no difference in dx10 between ati's af and nvidia's or so i've been told. in an af tester they look very different. i wonder if microsoft has made dx10 force filtering optimisations? I wouldn't be surprised.

i expect the highest quality af on the 8series to be removed from the 9 series.

damn, i wouldn't even have the transistors for anything but the highest quality mode.

but that's just me.
LycosV
10-10-07, 07:22 PM
Might actually be HDR/eye adaption effect since you face the sun. When sun is behind you, the sand should be a little bit ligher.

I hadn't thought of that. That would make kinda make sense.

Now that I've seen evox's screenshots I've determined the true purpose of Crysis: It's the best garbage bag renderer ever created by man.
SH0DAN
10-10-07, 09:13 PM
Nice work Tork!


What happened to DX9 'Very High' or are there no screenies as yet ?
m3dude
10-10-07, 09:23 PM
dx 9 stops at high
3DBrad
10-10-07, 10:31 PM
The 8-series from Nvidia currently holds the Picture-Quality Crown, as well as the performance crown.
Luminal
10-11-07, 05:24 AM
Incrysis.com got the DX9 vs. DX10 screens in high quality now. And some more new comparisons...

http://www.incrysis.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=511
Jonelo
10-11-07, 05:42 AM
The same marketing with the famosous SM 2.0 versus SM 3.0 in Far Cry . And now MS is associate with Crytek in Crysis
Vasot02
10-11-07, 05:48 AM
wow, huge difference between DX9 and DX10 :)


Are you joking ??
Were do you see the huge difference ?

plus DX10 motion blur in Crysis SUCKS !!
It is the most ugly effect in the DirectX history

if thats what DX10 only can do compared to DX9 then i am disappointed
Luminal
10-11-07, 06:16 AM
Are you blind ?

In bump mapping, especially on the ground. Also look at the new screens DX9 vs. DX10 on Incrysis.com

Overall visual is quite noticeable and a bit more realistic lighting in DX10, as i said especially bumpmapping.

PS: i like the motion blur...
evox
10-11-07, 12:45 PM
Are you joking ??
Were do you see the huge difference ?

plus DX10 motion blur in Crysis SUCKS !!
It is the most ugly effect in the DirectX history

if thats what DX10 only can do compared to DX9 then i am disappointed
:rolleyes:
Destroy
10-11-07, 12:51 PM
Are you joking ??
Were do you see the huge difference ?

plus DX10 motion blur in Crysis SUCKS !!
It is the most ugly effect in the DirectX history

if thats what DX10 only can do compared to DX9 then i am disappointed

I sort of agree. Was really hoping for better higher res textures ALL OVER. Not just the ground.