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CaptNKILL
10-15-07, 08:59 AM
WTF. Why should Windows be the authoritative source on computing standards?

ReactOS is buggy, tried it, BSOD's like crazy.
I don't know what it is ghost.

I know, I'm more familiar with Windows so that definitely makes me biased, but like you said before, Linux just isn't for the average joe.

I've actually been pretty surprised at how clunky and glitchy things have been and its probably driver related, but processes you have to go through to install drivers and configure them properly are just way out there.

In Windows, you click the file, and you click buttons. If you have a rough idea of what to do next, you look for the button to accomplish that task.

In Linux, you're presented with a folder full of files you can't directly use along with a blank command prompt. You have to know precisely what characters to put in the right places to run a specific command to do things that equate to a single click in windows. And since far fewer things are automated, you have to do this more often.

I can see all the potential that Linux has, and how it offers infinite control to the user... but it seems forced. If a user just wants to install a program but hasn't been exposed to 40 character long keyboard commands before, there should be a windows-like "just freakin do it" button that installs the program.

It must be something deep down in the guts of Linux itself that stops distros from getting away from the command line, even if just for one single distro. I know they have come a long way in the past 10 years, but overall you're still left scouring billions of online documents looking for the words you need to type in to accomplish something.

I have a lot of respect for you linux users. Windows has spoiled me with automated, simplified functions to do the things I need to do, and I just can't bring myself to go back to all the DOS-like command lines I hated back in the 90s. I wish I hadn't been so spoiled all these years, and I know I'm dumber because of it, but thats just sorta how it happened.

I wish there were more Linux gurus out there that had been this in-grained with windows and decided to make a Linux distro that did what Windows did well (no, not collect spyware) rather than what every other Linux distro does.

nekrosoft13
10-15-07, 09:19 AM
WTF. Why should Windows be the authoritative source on computing standards?



maybe because windows is the standard? look around 90+% of workstation computers in the world are windows.

I really would like to see linux distros get more competive, but they are still way way behind.

CaptNKILL
10-15-07, 09:57 AM
Well, I'm not giving up on this stuff completely, I'll keep it around to mess with but I think I'll have to scrap the idea of putting it on computers to save money.

I just don't have the ambition to become proficient enough with Linux to be able to configure, maintain and troubleshoot it for others.

I hate to sound ungrateful by talking crap about Linux Ghost. I really appreciate all the help. I probably wouldn't even have gotten past the installation of Kubuntu if someone wasn't here to answer all those questions.

I think I'm just too set in my windows ways at this point in time. :p

I've been going through a lot of crap lately and selling a few of my PCs is a top priority right now, so I was putting an awful lot of pressure on myself to get operating systems on these things without breaking the bank.

Hopefully once I get these things ready and sold I'll have some time to mess with Linux on my own just for something to do.

I've been scouring ebay for windows 2000 and XP keys but its not looking like I'm going to catch any deals.

I really don't know what I'm going to do with these systems...

I guess I should probably get a couple hours of sleep right now though. I've been up since midnight (had about 5 hours of sleep in the 24 hours before that) and I have to go somewhere in 4 hours.

I'm completely burned out. I think I'll just sleep for a few days straight. :p

evilghost
10-15-07, 10:01 AM
NP dude. I'm always glad to help, don't apologize for your decision.

CaptNKILL
10-15-07, 07:23 PM
So... anyone have any old PCs with windows XP licenses stuck to the case? I'll buy them off of you cheap... :p

evilghost
10-15-07, 07:38 PM
You can't legally transfer an OEM license AFAIK.

CaptNKILL
10-15-07, 07:48 PM
You can't legally transfer an OEM license AFAIK.
I'm pretty sure they make an exception if the motherboard in the PC fails. So... if your computer explodes, I'll take the license and "repair" the PC using these parts. :p

I just need genuine windows.

ViN86
10-16-07, 01:01 AM
and do you think the average Joe from the street will like editing config files? I did run linux for short time.

do you think if a person will buy a monitor, plug it in and get wrong resolutions would have a clue what EDID is? or how to solve that problem?
hell no they wont like it. that's why they dont use it.

but if you want to really get at the core of your OS and understand how everything works together, linux is the way.

I'm pretty sure they make an exception if the motherboard in the PC fails. So... if your computer explodes, I'll take the license and "repair" the PC using these parts. :p

I just need genuine windows.
you sure you need genuine? :bleh: