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Son Goku
04-12-03, 03:55 PM
Something I've noticed/witnessed over the course of a lifetime with some people. I've give a few examples. What's up with some of this?

- The "what's on my mind right now?"

"I don't know!"

"You don't love me. If you loved me you'd know what I'm thinking about all the time. You know very well you should know what I'm thinking."

"How should I be able to do that. Do you expect me to be a psychic or something?"

"Don't give me that, you don't love me."

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The you didn't know what I was thinking so I'll throw the blow drier at you...

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The "I hate it when you do that."

"You used to like it when we first met."

"I did then, but I hate it now. You must change because I told you to change. I'm perfect however, so I don't need to."

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Then one gets the person (my mother was one of these) who would regularly move everything around in the kitchen so people couldn't find things.

When asked why she was always moving things around, she said that she felt needed when people had to ask where things are.

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Speaking of which, in Christmas 2001 she came out after we hadn't seen each other for 5 years. I figured a vacation and we'd get some time together. Instead she wanted to snoop through my appartment (umm...I'm 30 years old, and it's my place not hers...and she would never allow someone else to do this in her home), "cleaning it", and what not.

When I called her on this and the fact that it is my home now and she would not allow someone to go doing this in her home, she got upset about how I'm making her feel un-needed and stuff...

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The "I know who you are better then you do. You either think..." [insert some bizzare proposal here] "or you're going through denial.

The list could go on, and when I see some people interacting with each other in such a manner, such as the person standing up from the dinner table and shouting at their date for not knowing what is on their mind...it makes me wonder if I would ever really want to get involved in that sort of thing...

omghi2u
04-12-03, 04:37 PM
It's just telling you to leave your girlfriend if she's being a dumbass b1tch. The biggest problem here is that people tolerate this crap.

vampireuk
04-13-03, 03:06 AM
ahh the wacky world of women, luckily Lucy is not like that (thank god):D

LORD-eX-Bu
04-13-03, 03:16 AM
ah, I've lost many a hot woman to this:lol:

just give em' a good beating. A good old fashioned fist fight can work wonders on strained relations:p

t6_shadow
04-13-03, 05:44 AM
You put up with a lot of crap from women dude. Its not worth it there is plenty of fish in the sea.

Son Goku
04-14-03, 03:38 AM
Actually, other then 2 instances I mentioned from my mother, the others I'm not speaking about in personal reference to me. Rather these are things I've seen, and things I've seen that give me pause to consider "would I really want to get myself committed in a relationship like that? What possible incentive could there be?"

Another thing one can wonder sometimes is why 2 people ever got together, if they hate each others guts so much or can't find even one good thing to say about the other? For some people, the honeymoon is over, and there almost at the other's jugular...

As to the things I've run into with my mother, well she is my mother after all. One can stop dating a girl, but well, you know...we're talking flesh and blood here, not someone one met on a street corner or something.

sytaylor
04-14-03, 04:52 AM
Talk about low opinions of women!

I find the majority to be quite snesible once you get past the love for clothes. Just like us they have a lot of things they want from a relationship and the two don't match very often. But there is common ground!

Personally i think women are pretty cool, yes annoying, but cool also.

Kruno
04-14-03, 05:56 AM
Dawn doesn't do any of those things to me. :lol:

2fast4u
04-14-03, 05:56 AM
Originally posted by sytaylor

Personally i think women are pretty cool, yes annoying, but cool also.

annoying in certain ways, no doubt. but i suppose guys arent exactly easy to have around either at times, so after all its a give and take ... deal with it, folks.

in regard to that stuff at the top ... this sounds rather extreme, i guess my gfs so far were all pretty easy to handle compared to that ;)

sytaylor
04-14-03, 06:37 AM
Originally posted by 2fast4u
this sounds rather extreme

agreed, some serious bad luck or something

Kruno
04-14-03, 07:08 AM
Damn, reading it a few times it really does seem strange. My mum doesn't ever go in my room and we live in 1 house.

Hanners
04-14-03, 07:26 AM
Originally posted by K.I.L.E.R
Dawn doesn't do any of those things to me. :lol:

Give her time..... :p

intercede007
04-14-03, 08:30 AM
Damn.

Either I'm very lucky, or ya'll have meet some f'ed up women.

Find the right one, and its all good :D

Chalnoth
04-14-03, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by [eNv]-LORD-eX-Bu
ah, I've lost many a hot woman to this:lol:

just give em' a good beating. A good old fashioned fist fight can work wonders on strained relations:p
Um, you're joking, right? Anybody who strikes a woman like this is a piece of scum.

Kruno
04-14-03, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by Chalnoth
Um, you're joking, right? Anybody who strikes a woman like this is a piece of scum.

Chalnoth, I think he was joking. :)

DaveW
04-14-03, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by Son Goku
Something I've noticed/witnessed over the course of a lifetime with some people. I've give a few examples. What's up with some of this?

- The "what's on my mind right now?"

"I don't know!"

"You don't love me. If you loved me you'd know what I'm thinking about all the time. You know very well you should know what I'm thinking."

"How should I be able to do that. Do you expect me to be a psychic or something?"

"Don't give me that, you don't love me."


Some of this sounds all too familiar

If she is worried or troubled by something then she is expecting you to be thinking the same thing. If you aren't, then you and her are not on the same "wavelength". Presumably they think telepathy only works when your brains are emitting EM radiation of the same frequency. The drawback is that telepathy doesn't really exist, yet its the only way to know what is bothering her most of the time. I had to sit down with my wife once and explain that telepathy does not exist and that the only way I will know why she is upset is if she talks to me. Don't have this conversation while she is upset though, leave it till the next day.

If she is not upset when she asks the "what are you thinking" question then its different. Usually she will ask it if you have a smile on your face. She is wondering if you are thinking of her or someone else. The correct answer is "I am thinking of you and how happy I am to be with you". You MUST resist the urge to s****** when you say this... I still can't say that to my wife with a straight face.

Note that in both cases she is really thinking about herself, not you.


The you didn't know what I was thinking so I'll throw the blow drier at you...


Yeah why is it acceptable for a woman to throw stuff at her husband but when its the other way around its domestic abuse?


The "I hate it when you do that."

"You used to like it when we first met."

"I did then, but I hate it now. You must change because I told you to change. I'm perfect however, so I don't need to."


These arguments are indicators that she had misconceptions about you when she first got involved or felt that she could mold you into what she wanted you to be rather than what you are. The response is basically "love me for who I am, not who you want me to be".

LORD-eX-Bu
04-14-03, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by K.I.L.E.R
Chalnoth, I think he was joking. :)

I think I was too:kill:

lol, don't worry chalnoth, I don't beat the women, unless they want it:naughty:

yeah right, I can't get any:p

UDawg
04-14-03, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by Son Goku
Something I've noticed/witnessed over the course of a lifetime with some people. I've give a few examples. What's up with some of this?

- The "what's on my mind right now?"

"I don't know!"

"You don't love me. If you loved me you'd know what I'm thinking about all the time. You know very well you should know what I'm thinking."

"How should I be able to do that. Do you expect me to be a psychic or something?"

"Don't give me that, you don't love me."

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The you didn't know what I was thinking so I'll throw the blow drier at you...

---------------------------
The "I hate it when you do that."

"You used to like it when we first met."

"I did then, but I hate it now. You must change because I told you to change. I'm perfect however, so I don't need to."

---------------------------
Then one gets the person (my mother was one of these) who would regularly move everything around in the kitchen so people couldn't find things.

When asked why she was always moving things around, she said that she felt needed when people had to ask where things are.

---------------------------
Speaking of which, in Christmas 2001 she came out after we hadn't seen each other for 5 years. I figured a vacation and we'd get some time together. Instead she wanted to snoop through my appartment (umm...I'm 30 years old, and it's my place not hers...and she would never allow someone else to do this in her home), "cleaning it", and what not.

When I called her on this and the fact that it is my home now and she would not allow someone to go doing this in her home, she got upset about how I'm making her feel un-needed and stuff...

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The "I know who you are better then you do. You either think..." [insert some bizzare proposal here] "or you're going through denial.

The list could go on, and when I see some people interacting with each other in such a manner, such as the person standing up from the dinner table and shouting at their date for not knowing what is on their mind...it makes me wonder if I would ever really want to get involved in that sort of thing...


AHHHHHH!!! MAKE HER STOP! MAKE HER STOP!!!

I just tell the truth now. Your damned if you do damned if you don't. At least I don't have to remember my lies this way. :D

potnoodlegirl
04-14-03, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by vampireuk
ahh the wacky world of women, luckily Lucy is not like that (thank god):D

Oh look a women bashing thread! :D

Yeah I might not act like that now but I get why some women do. In fact I have done it myself in the past... it's purely a test of reaction. The "You should know what I'm thinking" thing annoys me though, it's a complete overdose on romantic movies and also a healthy (or unhealthy) dose of insecurity. See we're conditioned to think that relationships are like this perfect connection which, let's face it, they're not, it's just two people who happen to have a mutual desire to try and make it work.

And yes, men can be just as annoying, in fact more so. :p

LORD-eX-Bu
04-14-03, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by potnoodlegirl
And yes, men can be just as annoying, in fact more so. :p

TAKE THAT BACK:mad:

:p

UDawg
04-14-03, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by potnoodlegirl
Oh look a women bashing thread! :D

Yeah I might not act like that now but I get why some women do. In fact I have done it myself in the past... it's purely a test of reaction. The "You should know what I'm thinking" thing annoys me though, it's a complete overdose on romantic movies and also a healthy (or unhealthy) dose of insecurity. See we're conditioned to think that relationships are like this perfect connection which, let's face it, they're not, it's just two people who happen to have a mutual desire to try and make it work.

And yes, men can be just as annoying, in fact more so. :p

OH LOOK A WOMAN!!! :D so.......how ya doin'? :naughty:

Is that a good example of how men can be worse? :p ;)

potnoodlegirl
04-14-03, 04:30 PM
Lol, yeah, pretty much an example. Nah, men aren't too bad really as long as you keep em in line and let them know you're the boss ;)

UDawg
04-14-03, 04:41 PM
...I kinda like it when a woman takes control. :o

OH behave! ;)

Son Goku
04-14-03, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by potnoodlegirl
Lol, yeah, pretty much an example. Nah, men aren't too bad really as long as you keep em in line and let them know you're the boss ;)

And yes, men can be just as annoying, in fact more so.

Statements such as these can be very revealing :p In fact "you're the more annoying one, could be a rather annoying line if given in anything but jest" :p ROFL

BTW, though the smiley suggests some joking (some people...anyone ever seen Geraldo or the like? do not when saying these things though), perhaps it isn't the place of one to "keep the other in line". Well I for one wouldn't want that sort of relationship, as either party...

The correct answer is "I am thinking of you and how happy I am to be with you". You MUST resist the urge to s****** when you say this... I still can't say that to my wife with a straight face.

Sigh... This is in part my point "The correct answer" for one party might be... I for one am not really interested in the game of "what the correct answer must be now" along with "but honesty could kill the relationship, and yet if the lie is discovered the worse offence..."

Perhaps telling someone who puts one to "such as test" as someone put it, should get a responce to go right along with this. "I'm thinking of meeting a soul mate one day who won't feel the necesity to put me to such tests." ROFL, though that might get a blow drier thrown, how enjoyable can this sort of thing really be?

These arguments are indicators that she had misconceptions about you when she first got involved or felt that she could mold you into what she wanted you to be rather than what you are. The response is basically "love me for who I am, not who you want me to be".

And of course the conception some hold about being able to coerce or force other people to be something other then they are...

When I was rather young, I learned this in a way that perhaps my parents might not have liked.

I was 3 years old then and sitting at the dinner table. My parents had a tendency to have liver once a week, and I hated it. To this day, I still don't like/eat liver. Anyhow, I wouldn't eat it, and to try to get me to eat it my mother tried threatening that I couldn't have desert. Well I still wouldn't eat it.

So now dinner is done, and she tells me that I can't get up from the table until I eat it. Several hours go by, I'm sitting there silently, still refusing to eat it, and it's now past my bed time. So she asks me if I'm going to eat it and I just tell her, flat out, no. I didn't whine, I didn't pout, or even go to ellaborate/discuss the matter. Just no, fold my arms, held firm, voluntarily took the punishment without a word of complaint, and wouldn't eat the liver.

So she had a dillema. If she kept me at the table until I ate it, which I obviously had no intention of doing, she'd have to keep me up way past my bed time (and eventually hers also). If she sent me to bed, then she'd have to let me go from the table without eating it, hence go back on her threat...

Needless to say, she never tried that one again with me, though as my older brother picked up on it...my father got most frustrated as my older brother followed my lead after and refused to eat his vegetables, ever.

Of course, looking back, this leaves one valuable lesson on to what extent one can or can not force another person to anything. Yes, one can try to coerce, but even there a decision can still remain...

PsychoSy
04-15-03, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by potnoodlegirl
Nah, men aren't too bad really as long as you keep em in line and let them know you're the boss ;)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! :jumping:

I remember the last time a woman tried to keep me in line. She cut me off. I simply replied, "Cutting me off will drive you nutty more than it'll drive me...

"Oh, really?!? Are you so sure of that?!?", she smirked.

"Yes, ma'am," I replied and added, "I was a virgin for 24 years, afterall..."

"And that's supposed to mean...?"

"It means that if you lost your virginity earlier than me, then chances are I have the edge in resolve. What's a week, month, a year, or another 24 years to me? Odds are, you'll jump my bones with in 72 hours..."

She attacked me 5 hours later! :p :angel: