View Full Version : Discuss: PCI express 2.0 is not compatible with 1.0/1.0a, only 1.1
rosshalz
04-17-08, 02:59 PM
hey fellas...first of all hi... i have an asus a8n-vm mobo..(yes i kno it's pretty crappy)... an i might be gettin an 8800gt soon..... will the 8800gt work on my mobo?? i don mind if it doesn perform AS good as pcie2.0 but will it WORK?? also power supply is no constraint as i'll be upgradin that soon too...
XDanger
04-17-08, 03:47 PM
What cpu?
XDanger
04-17-08, 03:53 PM
The card works ok according to this SATSUMOMO guys specs
http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:qE5xymj_2KUJ:www.ocforums.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D553218+A8N-VM+8800gt&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=uk&client=firefox-a
rosshalz
04-18-08, 01:36 AM
What cpu?
i have an amd64 3000+ cpu....
rosshalz
04-18-08, 01:38 AM
The card works ok according to this SATSUMOMO guys specs
http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:qE5xymj_2KUJ:www.ocforums.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D553218+A8N-VM+8800gt&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=uk&client=firefox-a
yup looks like it... thanks a lot!!!!
XDanger
04-18-08, 05:53 PM
He changed his mobo since yesterday to DFI NF4 Ultra-D????
rosshalz
04-19-08, 02:16 AM
that was fast.....he must've been plannin an upgrade.... anyway i think i'll try askin the tech support folk at asus itself....
XMAN52373
04-19-08, 02:37 AM
Your motherboard use P965 chipset so your screwed, it do not supported PCI Express 1.1.
Intel chipsets G31, P31, P35, G35, Q33 and Q35 released this year only supported PCI Express 1.1. Here are only 1 Intel chipset X38 already supported new PCI Express 2.0.
http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/express_flyer.htm
If that is the case, then this whole thing is pure hogwash, I've had a 9600GT in a Dell box with an i915 and P4HT 3.0Ghz s775 based board and it worked just fine without issue. It is now in same said box, but now sits in a i945 s775 with a C2D E6600. Had to do a small bit of case moding to the mobo tray to get it in. Damn back plate riser.
Zapablast05
04-19-08, 09:51 PM
PCI-E 2.0 cards work on any other slot....My 9600GT's worked on my old GA-M57SLI-S4 and it had 1.0 slots.
DeusGear
04-19-08, 10:01 PM
9800gx2 works on my ip35-pro.
rosshalz
04-21-08, 02:04 PM
guys pcie 2.0 cards work with pci1 slots... i asked the asus tech support an they said that since both pcie1.0 n 2 have the same no of pins, u can use any card with any mobo.... only problem is that if use a pcie2 card with a pcie1 mobo, the card will be throttled an will not perform at it's max ability...
XDanger
04-21-08, 03:14 PM
guys pcie 2.0 cards work with pci1 slots... i asked the asus tech support an they said that since both pcie1.0 n 2 have the same no of pins, u can use any card with any mobo.... only problem is that if use a pcie2 card with a pcie1 mobo, the card will be throttled an will not perform at it's max ability...
did you ask for proof?
My concern with the compatibility would be ,Is it a full speed 16x slot? if so , all good.
Specs for that board mention "PCI-E architecture" or something like that I seem to remember, very odd.
I had no clue my old 478 asus board was a 4x slot till I read the manual.
Zapablast05
04-21-08, 08:08 PM
guys pcie 2.0 cards work with pci1 slots... i asked the asus tech support an they said that since both pcie1.0 n 2 have the same no of pins, u can use any card with any mobo.... only problem is that if use a pcie2 card with a pcie1 mobo, the card will be throttled an will not perform at it's max ability...
You mean bottlenecked? Not really. It just won't have those PCI-E 2.0 features, it'll run like a regular PCI-E x16 card. Like I said before, my 9600GT's ran perfectly fine on my old GA-M57SLI-S4 motherboard.
rosshalz
04-23-08, 03:13 PM
You mean bottlenecked? Not really. It just won't have those PCI-E 2.0 features, it'll run like a regular PCI-E x16 card. Like I said before, my 9600GT's ran perfectly fine on my old GA-M57SLI-S4 motherboard.
yes that's exactly wat i meant....i thought pcie 2 differed from 1.x versions only in terms of bandwidth...
So will a new GTX 280 work on my P5B Deluxe motherboard or not? :)
Absolution
06-16-08, 11:42 PM
My 9800GTX works with my 680i. So, my guess is, yes.
Running this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127329) card on an eVGA nForce4 (NF41) board. Reviewed here (http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/evga_nforce4_sli_edition_mainboard/index.shtml) at nVNews.
My 9800GTX works with my 680i. So, my guess is, yes.
So any idea how much performance loss you take from not having a PCIe 2.0 slot?
Absolution
06-18-08, 01:42 AM
So any idea how much performance loss you take from not having a PCIe 2.0 slot?
Well, consider my old 8800GT (PCI-E 2.0) as a baseline. The fact that the PCI-E buss can't be a bottleneck because I recieved a fairly substantial speed boost when I upgrade to what is now my 9800GTX.
I bet I could even run this card in 8x with no performance drop. PCI-E has a ton of bandwith.
I bet I could even run this card in 8x with no performance drop. PCI-E has a ton of bandwith.
Cool. I'm hoping that will be the case when I plug my new 280 GTX FTW card into my P5B motherboard (nana2)
Sorry to bring up a dead thread but i have a Question. will this board
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130136
work with my older graphics card. 8800GTS EVGA 640 MB part number 640-P2-N824-A1
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12-22-08, 03:52 PM
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