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Gaco
10-30-07, 12:09 PM
169.04 is out

http://www.nvidia.com/Download/betadrivers.aspx?lang=en-us
Nice! Thanks a bunch, gotta try these out. I'm gonna dance in joy all day if the mouselag is gone. Performance would call for a minor dance too (nana2)

Does anyone know where you can read the full release notes?

nekrosoft13
10-30-07, 12:10 PM
i hope they fixed 64bit DX10 Crysis

Sheridan
10-30-07, 12:54 PM
Well, i did a test before installing the new drivers:
reboot -> Crysis GPU-Benchmark -> installed the 169.01 drivers -> 2x reboot -> Crysis GPU-Benchmark

The result:
Core2Duo 3GHZ (9x333), 4GB RAM
8800GTS 320MB @ 640MHz Core, 900/1800MHz Memory

Windows XP
Settings: "Very High" (tweaked DX9 settings)
Resolution: 1024x768

Windows Vista
(will follow later... maybe)


Drivers v163.69
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TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 64.94s, Average FPS: 30.80
Min FPS: 18.76 at frame 157, Max FPS: 43.57 at frame 79
Average Tri/Sec: -20853438, Tri/Frame: -677079
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.35
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 60.07s, Average FPS: 33.29
Min FPS: 18.76 at frame 157, Max FPS: 47.89 at frame 72
Average Tri/Sec: -22286554, Tri/Frame: -669372
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.37
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 60.03s, Average FPS: 33.32
Min FPS: 18.76 at frame 157, Max FPS: 47.89 at frame 72
Average Tri/Sec: -22305664, Tri/Frame: -669477
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.37
!TimeDemo Run 3 Finished.
Play Time: 59.98s, Average FPS: 33.35
Min FPS: 18.76 at frame 157, Max FPS: 47.89 at frame 72
Average Tri/Sec: -22349444, Tri/Frame: -670242
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.37
TimeDemo Play Ended, (4 Runs Performed)
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Drivers v169.01
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TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 60.40s, Average FPS: 33.11
Min FPS: 17.92 at frame 138, Max FPS: 44.75 at frame 83
Average Tri/Sec: -22424220, Tri/Frame: -677216
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.35
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 55.51s, Average FPS: 36.03
Min FPS: 17.92 at frame 138, Max FPS: 48.40 at frame 82
Average Tri/Sec: -24033306, Tri/Frame: -667033
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.37
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 55.78s, Average FPS: 35.85
Min FPS: 17.92 at frame 138, Max FPS: 48.40 at frame 82
Average Tri/Sec: -24013090, Tri/Frame: -669757
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.37
!TimeDemo Run 3 Finished.
Play Time: 55.81s, Average FPS: 35.83
Min FPS: 17.92 at frame 138, Max FPS: 48.40 at frame 82
Average Tri/Sec: -23986632, Tri/Frame: -669400
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.37
TimeDemo Play Ended, (4 Runs Performed)
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Drivers v169.04 Run 1
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TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 60.88s, Average FPS: 32.85
Min FPS: 18.48 at frame 137, Max FPS: 44.48 at frame 990
Average Tri/Sec: -22257124, Tri/Frame: -677540
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.35
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 55.38s, Average FPS: 36.11
Min FPS: 18.48 at frame 137, Max FPS: 48.09 at frame 72
Average Tri/Sec: -24186678, Tri/Frame: -669722
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.37
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 57.23s, Average FPS: 34.95
Min FPS: 18.48 at frame 137, Max FPS: 48.09 at frame 72
Average Tri/Sec: -23391384, Tri/Frame: -669373
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.37
!TimeDemo Run 3 Finished.
Play Time: 59.65s, Average FPS: 33.53
Min FPS: 18.48 at frame 137, Max FPS: 48.09 at frame 72
Average Tri/Sec: -22471308, Tri/Frame: -670249
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.37
TimeDemo Play Ended, (4 Runs Performed)
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Drivers v169.04 Run 2
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TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 59.98s, Average FPS: 33.34
Min FPS: 18.98 at frame 138, Max FPS: 44.99 at frame 83
Average Tri/Sec: -22568514, Tri/Frame: -676845
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.35
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 58.16s, Average FPS: 34.39
Min FPS: 18.98 at frame 138, Max FPS: 48.18 at frame 82
Average Tri/Sec: -23025182, Tri/Frame: -669583
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.37
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 59.60s, Average FPS: 33.56
Min FPS: 18.98 at frame 138, Max FPS: 48.18 at frame 82
Average Tri/Sec: -22463516, Tri/Frame: -669432
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.37
!TimeDemo Run 3 Finished.
Play Time: 59.58s, Average FPS: 33.57
Min FPS: 18.98 at frame 138, Max FPS: 48.18 at frame 82
Average Tri/Sec: -22510030, Tri/Frame: -670542
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.37
TimeDemo Play Ended, (4 Runs Performed)
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odin318
10-30-07, 01:07 PM
^^ Can you bench 169.04 now?

mcbacker
10-30-07, 01:09 PM
Performance is increasing slowly... come on NVidia! Give us a good driver....

MC

Sheridan
10-30-07, 01:10 PM
Benchmarks for the 169.04 beta drivers will follow in some minutes^^

[EOCF] Tim
10-30-07, 01:15 PM
I'm first! :D

64Bit works fine, doesn't have to force Vsync on now. There seems to be an improvement in quality in 64bit though, better distant textures, and (more) volumetric fog, dunno yet, seems that's causing the lower performance.

Average of 3 runs each.

Forceware 169.01
Windows Vista 64bit

1680x1050, No AA

All settings on Very High, except Shaders and Shadows, which are set to High.

Q6600 G0 : (1600)x9 : 3.6Ghz 1.5v
Corsair 2Gb : Dram 800Mhz 4-3-3-12-2T 2.1v
8800 GTX : 612 - 1500 - 2000MhzMhz

Creative X-fi, Game Mode


169.01


32Bit CPU Bench


Min : 12.69 - Max : 34.74 - Average : 27.39


32Bit GPU Bench


Min : 22.89 - Max : 39.18 - Average : 31.59


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169.04


32Bit CPU Bench


Min : 18.19 - Max : 35.36 - Average : 28.73


32Bit GPU Bench


Min : 22.91 - Max : 39.14 - Average : 31.60


64Bit CPU Bench


Min : 14.11 - Max : 35.26 - Average : 26.36


64Bit GPU Bench


Min : 14.87 - Max : 37.90 - Average : 25.18

Sheridan
10-30-07, 01:33 PM
Hmmm and 64Bit is slower... Looks like i'll install Vista64 the next days and see if it's the same here. For now i have a serious performance problem with vista ... at least the last time i played Crysis on Vista it was slow like hell ... I'll try your settings^^

Destroy
10-30-07, 01:37 PM
Tim']I'm first! :D

64Bit works fine, doesn't have to force Vsync on now. There seems to be an improvement in quality in 64bit though, better distant textures, and (more) volumetric fog, dunno yet, seems that's causing the lower performance.

Forceware 169.01
Windows Vista 64bit

1680x1050, No AA

All settings on Very High, except Shaders and Shadows, which are set to High.

Q6600 G0 : (1600)x9 : 3.6Ghz 1.5v
Corsair 2Gb : Dram 800Mhz 4-3-3-12-2T 2.1v
8800 GTX : 612 - 1500 - 2000MhzMhz

Creative X-fi, Game Mode


169.01


32Bit CPU Bench


Min : 12.69 - Max : 34.74 - Average : 27.39


32Bit GPU Bench


Min : 22.89 - Max : 39.18 - Average : 31.59


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169.04


32Bit CPU Bench


Min : 18.19 - Max : 35.36 - Average : 28.73


32Bit GPU Bench


Min : 22.91 - Max : 39.14 - Average : 31.60


64Bit CPU Bench


Min : 14.11 - Max : 35.26 - Average : 26.36


64Bit GPU Bench


Min : 14.87 - Max : 37.90 - Average : 25.18

I thought 64bit was suppose to be faster??? WTF??

odin318
10-30-07, 01:40 PM
I thought 64bit was suppose to be faster??? WTF??
Like he said, there is more going hence the slower speeds. The least you could do is read his post.

[EOCF] Tim
10-30-07, 01:50 PM
Like he said, there is more going hence the slower speeds. The least you could do is read his post.

Yea I'm pretty sure, after those benches I'm a bit tired of looking at stuff, so I'll do it later, or perhaps somebody else might do a comparison.

Destroy
10-30-07, 01:55 PM
Tim']Yea I'm pretty sure, after those benches I'm a bit tired of looking at stuff, so I'll do it later, or perhaps somebody else might do a comparison.

Some compare pic would be cool. Also, not really fair apples to apples comparison if 64bit is somehow doing more even though settings are the same? ???

CDE_1246
10-30-07, 03:20 PM
LOL! I can't believe there is a sub forum dedicated to Crysis!:captnkill:

SH64
10-30-07, 03:30 PM
Some sort of blur effect with 'no FSAA' set?? BTW, winXP DX9 all High 19x10 orig res.

Notice the trees especially; they are sharp with FSAA and blurry w/o FSAA applied. Gif images are zoomed in 2x.
16xAA on/off
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4581/16xaafi7.gif (http://imageshack.us)
Maybe this (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1430570&postcount=39) has something to do with it ?

Also its known that AF is not working in DX10 & since POM works only on V.High (DX10) , then maybe its here where the issue lies.

agentkay
10-30-07, 03:36 PM
Maybe its this:

r_UseEdgeAA = x

(x= 0/1/2, 0-disabled, 1-enable edge blurring more, 2-enable edge AA mode (previous version)

Gaco
10-30-07, 04:23 PM
The 169.04 gives the exacly the same performance, the mouselag is still there, but the 64bit version now works without having to force vSync off. Hm :|

SH0DAN
10-30-07, 05:21 PM
Now there's a reason for NVIDIA to make an even better video card then the 8800 GTX. A 9800 GTX Dual GPU would do a great job on making the game look and run even better. Plus having a Quad Core CPU will also help. I sure hope NVIDIA makes a dual gpu enabled card next month.




I dont,the thought of having to rely on sli configs,and drivers that are broken from one release to the next is NOT enticing !! :thumbdwn:

I want a single chip solution.

SH0DAN
10-30-07, 05:24 PM
Check out my thread, I am at 1680X1050 but as you can see by looking at my FPS 1920X1080 should be possible.

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=101172



Thank you,with your excellent advice my framerate went up by about 10 to 20% :cool: @ 1920x1200 (nana2)

SH64
10-30-07, 05:26 PM
I dont,the thought of having to rely on sli configs,and drivers that are broken from one release to the next is NOT enticing !! :thumbdwn:

I want a single chip solution.
+1
Yeah single chip solution & for those who want more can just go for SLI but prepare for any SLI issues they may enounter.

JohnDio
10-30-07, 06:14 PM
Can i ask you people something? The HDR settings in High is 2 and the EdgeAA is set to 1. Which are the settings for those settings in Very High settings? HDR = 3 and EdgeAA = 2 ?

hokeyplyr48
10-30-07, 06:21 PM
wait so is the dual GPU chip, the high end model? like is that the "n9e" or enthusiast card? (sorry i can't remember the name) if so they better have better drivers than they did with the 7950's.

[EOCF] Tim
10-30-07, 06:35 PM
Has anyone found out where the blood option in the configuration is?

Legend
10-30-07, 06:36 PM
Thank you,with your excellent advice my framerate went up by about 10 to 20% :cool: @ 1920x1200 (nana2)


Glad I could help.;)

GitDat
10-30-07, 06:42 PM
http://photo.ringo.com/239/239816225O443610496.jpg
http://photo.ringo.com/239/239816233O635978629.jpg
http://photo.ringo.com/239/239816442O100879885.jpg
http://photo.ringo.com/239/239817648O635687572.jpg
http://photo.ringo.com/239/239817673O177242154.jpg
http://photo.ringo.com/239/239817972O558467438.jpg

Vista 64-bit, DX10, 2048X1536, 16xAF/4xAA, All settings: Ultra High

One day we'll be able to play it this way at more than 3fps (nana2)

Legend
10-30-07, 06:56 PM
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/SLINROB/crysis2007-10-2815-18-25-41.jpg

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/SLINROB/crysis2007-10-2816-52-45-14.jpg

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/SLINROB/crysis2007-10-2817-25-36-90.jpg

http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/SLINROB/?action=view&current=crysis2007-10-2817-25-56-36.jpg


http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/SLINROB/crysis2007-10-2817-26-14-95.jpg


http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/SLINROB/crysis2007-10-2817-27-20-42.jpg