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Son Goku
04-13-03, 11:17 PM
First off, and before 1 of the mods move this to the nVidia gfx card forum, I'd like to preface this by saying I specifically did not post there, because if replacing my gfx card is the only option, I do not want to limit myself to consideration of any one companies card. It is the card that is important from a user's stand point, and not the name put on it, when it comes to purchasing considerations IMO. I'm actually not sure what I should or would want to do at this moment.

OK, too add some woes of late, my GeForce 3 Ti500 just died tonight. Was doing something else, looked back and my screen was black, and the monitor's power light was orange.

So I reboot and there is these somewhat frequent (about 1/2 inch apart) dots going across both directions of the screen in a regular pattern. The text for the BIOS screen is shimmering and there are some splotches of color shimmering a bit on the screen also. Also Windows XP would only boot into safe mode, because in regular mode...I guess the drivers don't like the gfx card problem as it just black screens while the monitor light turns orange (suggesting the card stops syncing with it then). Oh no, this doesn't look good.

I tried taking the video loop back (from my DVD decoder out) and hooking the monitor directly to the gfx card, and no dice. I turned off, un-plugged and used some canned air to blow out around (also tried running with case open) and no dice.

So, in that I have a Asus A7N266-E, I tried pulling the AGP card, plugging the monitor directly into the on-board gfx port, and everything loads fine now without the gfx anomolies. A GeForce2 GTS is a bit of a downgrade, and also eats up some system RAM (the integrated gfx) and I'm not all that thrilled about the downgrade now, but my GF3's well... Also, I noticed that the very center of the fan, the label is slightly browned. BTW, this is a Visiontek GF3 Ti500, though I'd have to see if I have the original packaging or not. I seriously doubt I have the receipt anymore from when I bought it from Best Buy in November 2001. The card has not been over-clocked.

- Is there a means to get a replacement or am I SOL, I don't remember exactly, but think Visiontek might have had a lifetime warranty to the original purchaser. Not sure about the original packaging, I'd have to look, but the only thing is the receipt I'm sure I don't have.

- Or will I need to replace this? Right at this moment, I don't exactly have $400 or so. Wasn't a good time for this to die on me.

- If I need to replace this, that leaves both nVidia and ATI these days, and their respective product offerings...the pros, the cons, etc

Admittedly, I had only casually followed the 8500 vs the GF4, as with a GF3 Ti500 I wasn't looking to buy either...only followed some reviews to stay somewhat current, etc.

I was also initially waiting for the GF FX, but now seeing what has or hasn't manifested, somewhat decided to wait for the following product generation from either nVidia or ATI and see what manifests, and have since well bought some other things I needed...so no $400 left right now.

But now, and at 1.5 years somewhat unexpectedly, my current card (outside the integrated downgrade for me) has gone to the crapper.

- BTW, though I do have 512 MB RAM, the loss of system memory to the integrated gfx isn't that great either. One of the reasons is that one of the classes I'm taking this semester is in Oracle dBase administration.

As such, I have Oracle 9i Release 2 Enterprise Edition loaded on my computer, and though I disable the services when I'm not using it for school work and stuff (yes it is that much of a memory hog), the loss of 64 MB will cause some serious swapping no doubt with that running. I could perhaps go to tweak memory usage with Oracle, but ugh... This is yes under winXP also...I really could use the memory back, as well as the better gfx back...

The Baron
04-13-03, 11:33 PM
Fan or heatisnk was too choked with dust and caused the core to fry. VERY similar thing happened with my friend's GF1.

With that config, I'd buy a 9500 Pro. Enough power to get by, good 2D, and it won't break the bank.

Son Goku
04-14-03, 01:39 AM
Ugh, yes it sounds bad, but I guessed it was fried. Guess I'm lucky enough to have a back up and not be completely out of business, albeit it's less then ideal.

I just loaded Diablo II xpack (which is a rather old game, albeit it didn't run that great on then current gen hardware), and umph...

- After having the GF3's level of IQ for 1.5 years, the colors just lookes rather washed out to me, and pretty dull in D3D mode. Of course we knew the GF3 brought a lot of IQ improvements to the table...it just takes one a bit by surprise going back again... Of course I used to run with both Quincunx AA and 8x anisotropic filtering on which are both gone now.

- With no AA and absolutely no aniso set, the fps (in game fps command) is greatly dropped, dipping to 17 fps from 40-50 fps or so, with dropped frames and stuff in act 5. I tried a paladin of mine, not one of my sorceresses such as one that uses cold orb, firewall, and tstorm.

This was down from 80-110 fps dipping maybe to 50 fps with same 800x600x16 (this is Diablo II xpack afterall and they don't allow, well...) but with both 8x anisotropic enabled and Quincunx AA.

Well perhaps I should look and see what a 9500 pro runs. Money isn't great for me right now, was better a couple months ago actually. But that's just an older game. Sub-par frame rates, gfx lag, and lower IQ all at once, umph. THX for the reply.

Grechie
04-14-03, 03:36 AM
hrmm mate thats noo good, did the fan choke up at all with dust or did the board just decide to kick the bucket?
well yeh id go for a 9500 or a Ti, im lookin to get rid of my current piece of crap bottleneckin my system, im upgrading to a a7n8x deluxe board this sat and i can afford to have a mx keeping me down :)but i live in australia and 3d card prices are steep!
$350 for a ti4200, and $700-$800 for a radeon 9700 pro.

The Baron
04-14-03, 03:45 PM
Oooh, if you play D2 Xpack, give me a ring on AIM sometime... I've been playing a xpack mod that just happens to both kick ass AND have a private realm server. :D

Son Goku
04-15-03, 04:15 AM
Well the finding new stuff can be a pain...all but one paly on East (which is not my primary realm) disappeared, and of course finding things...

But a private realm does sound tempting if it doesn't have

- Spam bot galore, where logging on one now gets a flood of spams. I kid the reader not...this never used to be even close to being this bad

I don't know who owns the *info4you... line of bots, but it is a most annoying line that hits both the channels on East and West realm and even has had 2 spam bots such as *info4you#4 and *info4you#12 in the same chat channel giving the same exact spam message in stereo.

There are others, and in many cases, squelch it and it comes back with a bot with 1 character different in the account name or whatever, repeating the same spam message it got squelched for. A more advanced squelch command that would allow one to enter

/squelch info4you* aka a DOS or Unix like wild card so as to get them in one command entry and all others similar

or

/squelch -bots to squelch all non-human connecties in one broad sweeping squelch command

would do wonders to counter this.

- They're largely for hacks, cheats, bugged items, scam artists, people who want to rip others off, and out right show the worst side of human nature and greed...