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MUYA
10-29-07, 07:26 PM
UPDATE - 10/29/07-8:29am: A very interesting addendum to this. I just got off the phone with BFG Tech and NVIDIA has been doing some strange things lately. As of this morning, the GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB (unsure on the 320MB) will have its stream processors officially increased to 112, the same as the GT. This should put the GTS back ahead of the GT as per the paper specs. However, the separation in the products is still going to be very small except for those of you wanting to run high resolutions with AA turned on. To do that you are still going to need a $400+ video card..or so. Our new spec GTS is on the way to us now and we will of course be updating you. Given the GT's faster clocks and possibly larger texture unit, we will have to wait and see. Undoubtedly though, the 8800 GT remains a stellar value at the expected price points.



Hope I haven't started an already discussed topic but the above info was interesting from HardOCP

Hmmm....

NoWayDude
10-29-07, 07:28 PM
I'm wondering how they are going to do this?

methimpikehoses
10-29-07, 07:30 PM
I'm wondering how they are going to do this?

magic.

shabby
10-29-07, 07:41 PM
Lake Forest, IL – (October 29, 2007) – BFG Technologies®, Inc., the leading North American and European NVIDIA supplier of advanced 3D graphics cards, motherboards, power supplies and other PC enthusiast products, announced today the BFG NVIDIA® GeForce® 8800 GTS OC 640MB Extreme Edition PCI Express™ graphics card for a suggested retail price of $499 USD.

“By increasing the number of Stream Processors from 96 to 112 on our award winning BFG NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS OC 640MB graphics card,” said Dean Brady, Sr. Director of marketing at BFG Technologies, “we are able to give our new Extreme Edition an additional performance boost that our customers have come to expect from BFG.”

The BFG NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS EE OC 640MB is available exclusively at CompUSA.

No thanks.

Moo
10-29-07, 07:50 PM
No thanks.

lol pwned

LORD-eX-Bu
10-29-07, 08:14 PM
:rofl

I got my GTS for free from MSI so it doesn't bother me.

Feel sorry for you guys who just recently bought a 8800 GTS.

newfiejudd
10-29-07, 10:35 PM
So how are they suppose to unlock this I wonder. lol..

MUYA
10-29-07, 10:43 PM
Wondering if GTX can be unlocked too :p

LORD-eX-Bu
10-29-07, 10:45 PM
I don't think they will be unlocking anything, I think what they mean is that they will be releasing new 8800 GTSs with more stream processors, meaning that if you want the newer GTS you will have to buy it. I don't think you will be able to enable the new stream processors yourself :)

MUYA
10-29-07, 10:51 PM
You are right, there is no mention of unlockin, I am just presuming they would. Rumours were that new GTS with 112 sps would be made available after GT launch. hmm

victor_c26
10-29-07, 10:58 PM
The new 8800GTS units are out already.

Go look at Newegg. Match the numbers given from the eVGA site. And notice the "96+" on eVGA's site. They're out guys, go get them before people realize they're out in the wild.

e-GeForce 8800GTS KO 640MB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130299)

e-GeForce 8800GTS SSC 640MB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130300)

New 8800GTS page at eVGA (http://www.evga.com/articles/379.asp)

It's too late for me, I already bought the 8800GT, but hey, it's not like it's a bad thing.

mythy
10-29-07, 11:04 PM
at those prices who cares?

DarkOneX
10-29-07, 11:21 PM
I don't think those are the new GTS's guys, they are new revisions of current GTS's I believe, the specs look worse than my 320MB Superclocked card.

methimpikehoses
10-29-07, 11:22 PM
The new 8800GTS units are out already.

Go look at Newegg. Match the numbers given from the eVGA site. And notice the "96+" on eVGA's site. They're out guys, go get them before people realize they're out in the wild.

e-GeForce 8800GTS KO 640MB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130299)

e-GeForce 8800GTS SSC 640MB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130300)

New 8800GTS page at eVGA (http://www.evga.com/articles/379.asp)

It's too late for me, I already bought the 8800GT, but hey, it's not like it's a bad thing.

Thought they would make them PCI 2.0... and bump the clocks.

Moo
10-29-07, 11:27 PM
The new 8800GTS units are out already.

Go look at Newegg. Match the numbers given from the eVGA site. And notice the "96+" on eVGA's site. They're out guys, go get them before people realize they're out in the wild.

e-GeForce 8800GTS KO 640MB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130299)

e-GeForce 8800GTS SSC 640MB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130300)

New 8800GTS page at eVGA (http://www.evga.com/articles/379.asp)

It's too late for me, I already bought the 8800GT, but hey, it's not like it's a bad thing.

Are these GTS cards made with 90nm or 65nm process? :eek2:

methimpikehoses
10-29-07, 11:29 PM
Are these GTS cards made with 90nm or 65nm process? :eek2:

Right... from the specs I don't see those beating the GT as predicted.

DarkOneX
10-29-07, 11:38 PM
Right... from the specs I don't see those beating the GT as predicted.

Those are the old process cards, they just have new names and possibly more than 96 shaders but those can't possibly be the new new ones, if those are actually coming. Maybe this GT is all we will see for the 8800 series?

victor_c26
10-29-07, 11:46 PM
Ah, I see. My bad guys. Jumped the gun there.

jamex27
10-30-07, 12:15 AM
Baaaa, of course the 8800 GT runs sometimes faster than the GTS cuz it has higher speed stream processors and core. But what happens when you overclock your GTS to 650/1500/2000? Heehehe, 8800 gt gets pawned.

Everybody is benching with "old" games, just saw a bench at Techreport I think, mainly with the Crysis demo, and maxed out a plain GTS beats the GT (by not much). So certainly the memory advantage is there. Then as I said, overclock the GTS to GT speeds.....or even higher......

Moo
10-30-07, 12:22 AM
Baaaa, of course the 8800 GT runs sometimes faster than the GTS cuz it has higher speed stream processors and core. But what happens when you overclock your GTS to 650/1500/2000? Heehehe, 8800 gt gets pawned.

Everybody is benching with "old" games, just saw a bench at Techreport I think, mainly with the Crysis demo, and maxed out a plain GTS beats the GT (by not much). So certainly the memory advantage is there. Then as I said, overclock the GTS to GT speeds.....or even higher......

By your logic, what's preventing people from OC'ing the GT?

Infact, eVGA has a 8800GT SSC card with 700MHz core & 2000MHz mem.

http://evga.com/articles/378.asp

Edit: the eVGA SSC is $300. What would have been real nice = 700 MHz core, 2000Mhz mem, and 1GB RAM.

jamex27
10-30-07, 12:24 AM
By your logic, what's preventing people from OC'ing the GT?

Infact, eVGA has a 8800GT SSC card with 700MHz core & 2000MHz mem.

http://evga.com/articles/378.asp


Memory advantage, that Crysis bench was at Very high setting and 4x AA, so I guess it needs more memory than 512 megs. Both cards where at stock speeds and the GTS was beating it. Let me look for the article, I'll post later. I'm not saying the GT is a bad card, it's good I think, but I think the more memory the better. 512 megs is gonna be a little bit low I think. The GT is a good value card, but I don't think directly comparable to GTS. Just get a GTS and overclock that mutha! lol.

But well, nvidia is replacing the GTS with this one. Hopefully there will be a few around to get the 2nd for SLI.

MUYA
10-30-07, 12:24 AM
Tom's hardware had problems overclocking their GT to past 680 core..dunno sharder clock....luck of the draw / binning I guess

jcossin
10-30-07, 12:27 AM
Well, this is what is posted on Voodoo Extreme, so I imagine that Nov 19th we'll see some magic!!!!

From VoodooExtreme:
Before you run out and buy one be aware that Nvidia will be launching a new, faster GTS card on November 19th, and ATI will launch their DX10.1 compatible part on November 15th.

jamex27
10-30-07, 12:31 AM
Well, this is what is posted on Voodoo Extreme, so I imagine that Nov 19th we'll see some magic!!!!

From VoodooExtreme:
Before you run out and buy one be aware that Nvidia will be launching a new, faster GTS card on November 19th, and ATI will launch their DX10.1 compatible part on November 15th.

Hmmmm, interesting....

Mr_LoL
10-30-07, 02:15 AM
This is all so confusing tbh :headexplode: