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Nemesis
04-14-03, 04:59 AM
With the appearance of the new P4 800MHz FSB processors, and I865 / I875 chipsets, will you be upgrading to one of these now, or waiting for the Athlon 64?

Dazz
04-14-03, 11:28 AM
I am have been alittle tempted by the P4 2.4GHz 800MHz FSB CPU but i would then have to change all my memory sticks and I just bought 512MB stick 3 weeks ago. I can't say anything about the AThlon 64 just yet as i havn't seen any decent offical benchmarks as of yet.

a4164
04-14-03, 02:15 PM
Damn, I was really looking to get the new 3.0GHz(800mhz FSB) but there is a bug in it that has delayed it.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,1022686,00.asp

The Baron
04-14-03, 03:43 PM
Athlon64. Because they'll run at similar speeds in 32-bit apps, and plus 64-bit processing is just so damn cool. :D

Plus there's no nVidia chipset for Intel chips... 'nough said. CRUSHK8, BABEH

Dazz
04-14-03, 04:45 PM
Running in 64bit will increase performance by around 20+%

StealthHawk
04-14-03, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by Dazz
Running in 64bit will increase performance by around 20+%

in what applications?

it really depends on what you're running.

The Baron
04-14-03, 05:15 PM
I think 64-bit-optimized Photoshop, Premiere, etc., will let the Athlon64 demolish P4s at equivalent price levels/performance ratings (we'll have to see) at content creation, media editing, etc. Plus, rendering... well yeah, Athlon64 is going to win, period.

Games? Probably not a huge increase. But hey, if it makes a better all-around processor, bingo.

Nemesis
04-15-03, 03:03 AM
Originally posted by StealthHawk
in what applications?

it really depends on what you're running.

That's the bit that concerns me about being an early Athlon64 adopter - there needs to be a lot of 64 bit optimised stuff around to show the Athlon 64's advantage. Also, how stable / compatible will the early processors and mobo's be?
I remember the first Athlon 500's, with the AMD 750 chipset, there were some incompatibility issues. But, time has passed, and AMD is a different company now, so who knows?

Dazz
04-16-03, 06:49 AM
The next Unreal engine is geared up for 64bit, infact they are pressuring Intel to do x86-64.

jolle
04-16-03, 07:58 AM
We can also add that microsoft seems to be planning
on a desktop version of XP 64 (anvil) tailored for the
athlon64, which i would asume means that
they will assure 32bit apps compatibility..
or atleast i hope so..

http://www.warp2search.net/article.php?sid=11561

"We have absolute confirmation that there is an X86-64 version of Windows for the Hammer platform and rather suitably Microsoft has codenamed it Anvil. The source added that Microsoft is describing Anvil as bringing 64-bit computing to the masses, a phrase that will make Intel cross when it reads this article.

Microsoft is claiming that Anvil will still execute 32-bit apps with "excellent performance and compatibility". "

Also mentioned here:
http://news.com.com/2100-1006-996160.html?tag=fd_top

"The software giant also intends to release a 64-bit variant of Windows XP for the chipmaker's Athlon 64 processor for desktops and notebooks."

And as someone mentioned UT2k3 is ready for 64bit and
it took about a week to convert.

http://www.nvnews.net/cgi-bin/search.cgi?category=1&keyword=ut2003&page=2

"But Ruiz showed off a version of Epic Games' Unreal Tournament 2003 that takes advantage of the new processor. Epic said the game was reprogrammed in about a week to take advantage of the 64-bit processor."

Also Counter-strikes linux server is going to support the
new x86-64, and has shown about 30% gain on the same
clockfrequencyhttp://www.counter-strike.net/

"In a straight port of code highly optimized for x86-32, Counter-Strike dedicated server tests with both 32- and 64-bit versions revealed a 30% clock-for-clock gain, and is expected to show further performance gains in future upgrades."

marqmajere
04-16-03, 11:09 AM
AMD. Waiting to upgrade untill they release thier next fsb bump.

Plus like The Baron said:

Plus there's no nVidia chipset for Intel chips... 'nough said.

:)