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FastM
04-14-03, 03:14 PM
Anyone ever kill a CPU from Long term overclocking? Like obviously shorten its life from always running it overclocked?


I just finished delivering a system for a friend of a friend.. i used..

AXP 2100+ with a Vantec AeroFlow
MSI K7N2-L
Crucial PC2700 (2x 256meg) Cas2.5 (set to auto in Bios, 7,3,3,2.5)
MSI GF4TI4200 8x
SB Audigy
WD 80meg 8meg Cache
Liteon 52x CD-RW

So what i did is set the FSB to 166Mhz to just overclock the CPU from 1730Mhz to 2160Mhz leaving the Multiplier Default and all the Voltages.

The system keeps cool and runs perfect under all 3d Apps, am i shooting myself in the foot selling a comp like this, or will this CPU last as long as it should.

Woodelf
04-14-03, 09:16 PM
Nope, Just a tendancy to chip the corners.
I never overclock for friend's anymore, since room temperatures,
and heatsink cleanliness (expecially with smokers) have usually caused instability poblems over time.
:)

jAkUp
04-14-03, 11:39 PM
amd's are usually very sensitive to overclocking... you may shorten the life of it... depends on how far you go. but really, we're talking years and years here... p4's on the other hand... you can overclock those like a mother:)

Lunar
04-14-03, 11:47 PM
Especially with teh C1 Stepping!!!!

Like me!!! I got mine to 3 ghz one day. 125x4 fsb.

budd_wm
04-15-03, 09:40 PM
Just for experimenting purposes I one time ran a P4 without a heatsink just to see if I could burn it or not. It downclocked itself, like it should, and then finally shut itself off. It wouldn't burn, heh. What does this have to do with overclocking?? Well, I dunno, but I just had to post this cause I thought it was kinda cool.

Toad
04-17-03, 07:51 PM
As for long-term overclocking, I'm still using a Celeron 300A at 450 MHz in my system. It's been running at least twelve hours per day every day since November 1998, with no overclocking-related issues.

Summer temperatures of 85+ degrees (no air conditioning) require that I turn on a fairly noisy 80 mm case fan, but otherwise all is well.

PenguinJim
04-19-03, 08:14 AM
Originally posted by budd_wm
Just for experimenting purposes I one time ran a P4 without a heatsink just to see if I could burn it or not. It downclocked itself, like it should, and then finally shut itself off. It wouldn't burn, heh. What does this have to do with overclocking?? Well, I dunno, but I just had to post this cause I thought it was kinda cool.

I had an interesting experience recently... I finally got around to tidying my cables inside my case (they'd been messy since I installed my Asus A7N8X a few months ago, with its new shiny Thoroughbred 2000+) and then put the PC back together. I switched on the power, but a few seconds later the system went off again. I glanced inside but could see no obvious problems, so tried again. Same thing happened. I had a more decent look and realised that the heatsink had fallen off the CPU! I was certain I'd killed the CPU but upon reheatsinking and stuff the system powered on and has worked fine since :S

So, um.... yeah :) I burned out a T-bird 1333 in about three seconds once, and a friend of mine burned out a 2200+ in less than that. So something's improved somewhere. Again, kinda unrelated :)

DaveW
04-24-03, 10:23 AM
If you overclock a CPU it will burn up and explode, scattering radioactive waste all over your house. Or so we are told. I have never had a CPU or GPU die from overclocking. I have never known anyone who that happened to either. All that talk of the tracks on the wafer "bleeding" is like panicking over the fact that our sun will go supernova in about 4 billion years from now. The only real way you can damage a CPU from overclocking is if you let it overheat. It is wise to config your mobo to power down on a CPU fan failure. You can easily fry a CPU if your HSF fails and you are using a Peltier :) . The other thing to watch is your system bus speed when tweaking the FSB. If you are running your bus at over 40 mhz you can damage your PCI cards and some HDDs.

Dazz
04-24-03, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by jAkUp
amd's are usually very sensitive to overclocking... you may shorten the life of it... depends on how far you go. but really, we're talking years and years here... p4's on the other hand... you can overclock those like a mother:) You confusing that with the Pentium 4 which can die with the slight increase in core speed also known as sudden death syndrom (SDS).

Sazar
04-24-03, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by Dazz
You confusing that with the Pentium 4 which can die with the slight increase in core speed also known as sudden death syndrom (SDS).

isn't that something that happens to babies. ?

digitalwanderer
04-24-03, 12:35 PM
...I've wondered about this one a lot myself as my general rule of thumb has been to find out all me equipments max OC and run it at that for the rest of it's life. I've been doing that since '95 when I first OCed me Packard Hell P60 to a P66 by changing a jumper and thought it was just the bee's nuts....


....I've never lost a bit of kit to wear-n-tear. (with the exception of one cheap mobo, but it didn't wear out so much as explode and catch fire a bit...so the verdict is still out on that one. Everything else in the system was fine, but I tossed the power supply on principle as it was a cheapy too. ;) )

Seriously, I've never really seen any signs of aging on my OCed equipment....if anything it seems to run BETTER over time for me. I've actually been able to up the clock speeds better than I had the last time, although it could also be a different change to me system that affected it.

DaveW
04-25-03, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by digitalwanderer

Seriously, I've never really seen any signs of aging on my OCed equipment....if anything it seems to run BETTER over time for me. I've actually been able to up the clock speeds better than I had the last time, although it could also be a different change to me system that affected it.

Thats called burning in, I remember reading about some guy who baked his celeron 300 in the oven for a few minutes and got better O/C results afterwards :)

digitalwanderer
04-25-03, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by DaveW
Thats called burning in, I remember reading about some guy who baked his celeron 300 in the oven for a few minutes and got better O/C results afterwards :)

Cool! Then I'm not hallucinating and it is a good thing to go back a couple of months later and double-check your max. :)

Thank you, I've been bicth-slapped down for mentioning this one a LOT! ;)

dohcmark8
04-25-03, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by jAkUp
amd's are usually very sensitive to overclocking... you may shorten the life of it... depends on how far you go. but really, we're talking years and years here... p4's on the other hand... you can overclock those like a mother:)

Wrong... http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=6549

AMD's can take overclocking better, because they can withstand much higher voltages than P4's.:D

dohcmark8
04-25-03, 01:02 PM
Hey, that Aeroflow is the best HSF you can get for AMD's. The overclock you have right now is fine, your not really overclocking the processor @2167mhz since it's probably just a rebadged higher-end tbred. All nforce2 mobos have excellent thermal protection, so you have nothing ot worry about.