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Steamer2499
11-06-07, 01:10 PM
169.04 work great for me. Please post some benchmarks for both.
These drivers are dated Nov 6 on nvidia site.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x86_163.75.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x64_163.75.html

nekrosoft13
11-06-07, 01:11 PM
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=101013

[EOCF] Tim
11-06-07, 03:14 PM
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=101013

Let's keep the discussion to this thread, you posted stationware link, nvidia link is better.

nekrosoft13
11-06-07, 03:58 PM
Tim']Let's keep the discussion to this thread, you posted stationware link, nvidia link is better.

haha, how the hell nvidia link is better. WHQL driver is WHQL driver. station drivers couldn't change a single thing other wise it wouldn't be a WHQL driver any more.

[EOCF] Tim
11-06-07, 04:08 PM
haha, how the hell nvidia link is better. WHQL driver is WHQL driver. station drivers couldn't change a single thing other wise it wouldn't be a WHQL driver any more.

I didn't mean better in better driver, just better interface and speeds for downloading.

Has anyone succesfully installed the Vista 64Bit drivers? The file keeps coming in corrupted?

Vasot02
11-06-07, 04:46 PM
163.75 WHQL

# Improved compatibility and performance for NVIDIA SLI™ technology on DirectX 9, and OpenGL applications.

# Game and application compatibility fixes. Please read the release notes for more information on product support, features, driver fixes and known compatibility issues.

(They have added better compatibility to all latest games...Crysis, Hellgate London etc etc)

Dr.Nick
11-06-07, 04:46 PM
I downloaded the 64bit version from nv but its always corrupted. I'll wait for the set. 169.04's are pretty good for now

[EOCF] Tim
11-06-07, 05:11 PM
I downloaded the 64bit version from nv but its always corrupted. I'll wait for the set. 169.04's are pretty good for now

Yea unfortunately they are corrupted, maybe they'll fix it as soon as possible. Dying to do some comparisons. :)

Digital_Trans
11-06-07, 08:25 PM
Don't they know before they release this stuff directly from NVIDIA?
Geee...........

kam03
11-06-07, 08:51 PM
Change the location to UK. File is not corrupt with the international version.

Stoneyguy
11-06-07, 09:01 PM
I just installed the x64 version and it installed fine...

Digital_Trans
11-06-07, 11:07 PM
Okay, NVIDIA must have fixed the problem which resided in the driver source code. Way to go Papa Johns Pizza better NVIDIA always!

[EOCF] Tim
11-07-07, 01:31 AM
Okay, well I guess I better start benching. :)

[EOCF] Tim
11-07-07, 02:28 AM
Apparantly they fixed the link, I'm going to give them a try regardless. :)

Additional Comment:

Okay, tested them. I can confirm the reflection update in Crysis is fixed. Performance is lower in Crysis (to be expected) but was double in UT3, I think AA is not being applied correctly in UT3, or that the inbuild AA force doesn't work, like it did with the compatibility bit in the new Beta drivers, I'm afraid I just totally forgot about that, just realised it. I could see it did have AA applied, so I don't understand really. Here are my results


Windows Vista 64bit

1680x1050

Q6600 G0 : (1600)x9 : 3.6Ghz 1.5v
Corsair 2Gb : Dram 800Mhz 4-3-3-12-2T 2.1v
8800 GTX : 612 - 1500 - 2000Mhz

Averages of two or more runs


Crysis

All settings on Very High, except Shaders and Shadows, which are set to High. No AA.

169.04 Beta


Min : 18.82 Max : 33 Average : 25.94


163.75 WHQL


Min : 11.29 Max : 28.92 Average : 24.10


Unreal Tournament 3 Demo

8xTRSSAA, Gamma Correct, 16xAF

169.04 Beta


Average : 35.28 - 73.6% > 30fps


163.75 WHQL


Average : 61.74 - 99.63% > 30fps

terror_adagio
11-07-07, 05:14 AM
nVidia is seriously ****ing confusing. Which ones are better?

163.75 WHQL or 169.04?

I'm assuming 169.04 since they have the latest version number?

Dragunov
11-07-07, 05:58 AM
163.75 WHQL is much better in UT3 it seems

Vasot02
11-07-07, 06:01 AM
nVidia is seriously ****ing confusing. Which ones are better?

163.75 WHQL or 169.04?

I'm assuming 169.04 since they have the latest version number?

163.75 WHQL are Official drivers and fully tested for compatibility issues

169.74 are BETA and NOT fully tested for compatibility issues

nekrosoft13
11-07-07, 06:10 AM
nVidia is seriously ****ing confusing. Which ones are better?

163.75 WHQL or 169.04?

I'm assuming 169.04 since they have the latest version number?

163.75 is old, this is nothing more then "beta" 163.75 with Microsoft WHQL stamp approval.

163.75 are not recommented for new games (crysis, timeshift and some other ones probably)

don't pay attention to WHQL is a waste.

Vasot02
11-07-07, 06:19 AM
163.75 are not recommented for new games (crysis, timeshift and some other ones probably)
.

Wrong...

• Improved compatibility for The Way It’s Meant To Be Played™ game titles:
BioShock, Crysis, Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, Hellgate: London, and
World in Conflict.

These improvements solve cases of reported performance slowdowns in some 3D applications
with high graphics settings and resolutions.


http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/163.75/163.75_WinXP_ForceWare_Release_Notes.pdf


163.75 WHQL does not bring better FPS but more stable performance as it is noted with less slowdowns during play

[EOCF] Tim
11-07-07, 06:28 AM
Wrong...

• Improved compatibility for The Way It’s Meant To Be Played™ game titles:
BioShock, Crysis, Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, Hellgate: London, and
World in Conflict.

These improvements solve cases of reported performance slowdowns in some 3D applications
with high graphics settings and resolutions.


http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/163.75/163.75_WinXP_ForceWare_Release_Notes.pdf


163.75 WHQL does not bring better FPS but more stable performance as it is noted with less slowdowns during play

True, but how long was that Crysis bit added to the drivers? For the last 5 drivers or so, and I think the TF2 profile says it all, that's been a while ago now that that was released.

= Old drivers.

I think my benches show that, the min fps is a BIG drop, so your comment is not correct.

nekrosoft13
11-07-07, 06:56 AM
Wrong...

• Improved compatibility for The Way It’s Meant To Be Played™ game titles:
BioShock, Crysis, Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, Hellgate: London, and
World in Conflict.

These improvements solve cases of reported performance slowdowns in some 3D applications
with high graphics settings and resolutions.


http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/163.75/163.75_WinXP_ForceWare_Release_Notes.pdf


163.75 WHQL does not bring better FPS but more stable performance as it is noted with less slowdowns during play

there is difference about improving compability and being recommended driver.

and 163.75 is not a recommended driver for crysis.

kam03
11-07-07, 07:11 AM
there is difference about improving compability and being recommended driver.

and 163.75 is not a recommended driver for crysis.


Well with this driver i get no mouse lag on crysis DX10 anymore.

badboy64
11-07-07, 10:39 AM
What is the date on these drivers?

Luchou
11-07-07, 01:05 PM
What is the date on these drivers?

Well, Im on XP btw:

DriverVer = 10/04/2007, 6.14.11.6375

DriverVer = 10/28/2007, 6.14.11.6904

There you have it, 169.04 are newer than 163.75, but this is for XP...

Unstable_Hero
11-09-07, 08:00 PM
04's are buggy, and those bugs give it better performance, 75's are not so buggy and a little slower. I like 75's. Better iq.

vista 64