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911medic
11-12-07, 11:31 AM
Didn't see this anywhere yet: I took the pause as a chance to ask about DirectX 10 support in the game, but my reaction may as well have been a second blush. For once, Mark was a man of few words.

“DirectX 10 lets us do some things in the engine we can’t normally, but we won’t be using it at launch. Maybe a patch later, I suppose.”

I was aghast and wanted to know a bit more – by ‘things’ did he mean finding a way to use anti-aliasing in the Unreal Engine 3 as well as using Multiple Render Targets? This seemed to be what we saw in Gears of War PC…

“Ha! Um, that stuff is all a little over my head nowadays. I guess you’d have to ask one of the tech guys or programmers.” (http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2007/11/11/mark_rein_ps3_physx_and_pwnage/3)Has this been known previously? I don't remember seeing anything about this before...

jAkUp
11-12-07, 11:34 AM
Hmmm... Sweeney said that it would be in :(

SeriTonin
11-12-07, 11:35 AM
Thought the game was delayed for the last 4 months because they were integrating dx10...boy, epic just continue's to go from one of the best to one of the worst, honestly, between the lack of wide screen for their engine, their forums not giving any help, the horrific stuttering in gears of war for 80% of the owners of the game (yeah if you dont have stuttering dont come in here and say there is none, your machine does not represent the entire gaming community, just be happy you arent affected.) Ut3 continuous delays, the lackluster demo with shoddy textures and the same ol boring gameplay....

Where's the epic from 2003 before it got all jaded with consoles?

SeriTonin
11-12-07, 11:36 AM
Hmmm... Sweeney said that it would be in :(


Come on! Epic would NEVER lie! ( Just look at their forums) ;)

LordJuanlo
11-12-07, 11:38 AM
Mark Rein said there would be no graphical difference between DX9 and DX10, but DX10 would be faster. Well I hope it's faster than DX10 Gears of War. Anyway I didn't know DX10 was going to be added later in a future patch. We will see.

SeriTonin
11-12-07, 11:49 AM
dx10 has yet to add speed to any game it's been used in. With MAYBE the possible exception of lost planet...which has also had a solid 6 months on the market to get perfected......

sammy sung
11-12-07, 12:26 PM
Thought the game was delayed for the last 4 months because they were integrating dx10...boy, epic just continue's to go from one of the best to one of the worst, honestly, between the lack of wide screen for their engine, their forums not giving any help, the horrific stuttering in gears of war for 80% of the owners of the game (yeah if you dont have stuttering dont come in here and say there is none, your machine does not represent the entire gaming community, just be happy you arent affected.) Ut3 continuous delays, the lackluster demo with shoddy textures and the same ol boring gameplay....

Where's the epic from 2003 before it got all jaded with consoles?

I dont mind "the same ol boring gameplay...." i WANT that,i want to be able to play ICTF IDM ITDM on active public servers and with my clan in wars and practices.But what pisses me off is the way epic handles things,they release a public beta demo,ask for feedback and they get it,they say that the ui is too limited,that more ingame tweaks and detail levels are wanted as it used to be.That the inability to change your nickname is crap because it means that people have to ditch nicks theyve used for 8 years to play online,since a lot of them are already taken on gamespy.

And then there's the awful browser and on and on.From the reports of people playing the full game at the UK launch party very few if any of these issues have been fixed.This was one game i hoped would not suffer from consoleitis since ive played this series since the release in 99.I hope things wont be as bad as i fear but thats doubtful.Time will tell i guess.

About DX10 : I dont think DX10 is ready for use in online shooters ,framerate is king there and using it = ****ty online fps ,get ready to respawn a LOT.I dont give a damn about dx10 in UT3,you simply will not be able to use that and play competetivly at a high level.

conroejoe
11-12-07, 03:52 PM
Mark Rein said there would be no graphical difference between DX9 and DX10, but DX10 would be faster. Well I hope it's faster than DX10 Gears of War. Anyway I didn't know DX10 was going to be added later in a future patch. We will see.

yea I really doubt that. Maybe Epic got tired of the crappy DX10 performance and gave up on it. A patch, later... lol even he doesn't sound like it will happen.

3DBrad
11-12-07, 04:01 PM
Well, all DX10 thus far has been non-impressive, so I don't mind. :D

Tr1cK
11-12-07, 04:09 PM
All the Vista boys are sure lookin smart.

How many games support DX10 properly?

Vista would be the next Windows ME if not for the 'glamarous' DX 10.

LORD-eX-Bu
11-12-07, 04:18 PM
I'd rather wait six months for a DX10 patch, at least then it may be beneficial to performance rather than detrimental :lol:

conroejoe
11-12-07, 04:27 PM
Vista would be the next Windows ME if not for the 'glamarous' DX 10.

It already is.. there is no glamour. LOL

shabby
11-12-07, 04:53 PM
Dont worry guys, a dx10 patch will add about as much eye candy as gears of war in dx10... ie. no difference whatsoever, well except maybe a 50% drop in performance.

m3dude
11-12-07, 05:14 PM
the game is out in germeny, and from all the screens it looks just as horrible as the garbage demo. there is no high res content. u were all saying?

911medic
11-12-07, 05:17 PM
u were all saying?That Mark Rein said there would be no DX10 in UT3 at launch?

3DBrad
11-12-07, 05:27 PM
Lost Planet is one of the few that actually performs better in DirectX 10 (unless you turn on the extra DX10 features).

ViN86
11-12-07, 05:31 PM
bah... no big deal.

DX10 will eventually take over, but it's no where near as mature as DX9 is.

Quick420
11-12-07, 05:33 PM
bah... no big deal.

DX10 will eventually take over, but it's no where near as mature as DX9 is.

Agreed,and the ut3 engine in dx9 is brillaint to look at.IMHO:D

Destroy
11-12-07, 05:43 PM
Yay, no DX10 means no proper FSAA support. Epic is so cool.

$n][pErMan
11-12-07, 05:52 PM
the game is out in germeny, and from all the screens it looks just as horrible as the garbage demo. there is no high res content. u were all saying?
If so, I might honestly be skipping this game.... :(

m3dude
11-12-07, 06:05 PM
That Mark Rein said there would be no DX10 in UT3 at launch?

im referring to all the people who were saying the retail would look much better then the beta and would look just like the promoshots

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/124/928371_20060505_screen004.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/191/928117_20070711_screen004.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/191/928117_20070710_screen020.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/191/928117_20070710_screen013.jpg

when it actually looks just like the demo

http://trumbledown-shanty.de/ut3/ScreenShot00006.jpg
http://trumbledown-shanty.de/ut3/ScreenShot00019.jpg
http://trumbledown-shanty.de/ut3/ScreenShot00016.jpg
http://trumbledown-shanty.de/ut3/ScreenShot00013.jpg

911medic
11-12-07, 07:06 PM
And where in this thread was that said?

shabby
11-12-07, 07:30 PM
im referring to all the people who were saying the retail would look much better then the beta and would look just like the promoshots
...
when it actually looks just like the demo
...

What... you mean the hi-res textures dont make it look like that?!? Heh werent all of those eye candy shots from cinematic trailers?
I remember back in 2006 epic ran a demo to pimp ut3 that looked like all of those high detail pics... shame on epic.

$n][pErMan
11-12-07, 08:20 PM
Ya... WTF happened?!?! I HATE when they dumb down games so lower end machines can run them :mad:

WeReWoLf
11-12-07, 08:39 PM
Remember back in the day when we all ran Dx9 like crap? How long it took before games fully supported it, and when games started to require dx9 cards? Games and cards don't instantly have support when updates are put out, you have to wait, and yes, we're now like 6 or 7 generations beyond the start of dx9.

As for the UT3 deal, i have complete faith in Epic, i'm getting the game no matter what.