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buffbiff21
11-15-07, 05:52 AM
Thanks for looking!

Heat 15-0-0 (http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=56960)
eBay 22-0-0 (http://myworld.ebay.com/buffbiff21/)

Shipping to US -- continental 48 only. I accept Paypal and money orders. I'm in San Diego CA, if you're interested in local pickup. I'll take off shipping costs if this's the case. Any questions, PM me!

This is an unmodified, legendary, discontinued Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic. I had this one installed for less than a day and it's been sitting on my shelf for quite a while. It SMELLS brand new! Comes with driver CD.

SOLD

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7782/p1010351yy3fl0.jpg

SLippe
11-15-07, 06:22 AM
How does this card perform as far as gaming with it?

CaptNKILL
11-15-07, 06:56 AM
It isn't one of the stripped down newer models (like the xtremegamer). This is the original.

It doesn't have the X-RAM but nothing uses that anyway, and nothing ever will.

If you use analog audio and don't need DDL or DTS Connect, this is one of the best sound cards you can buy for gaming.


BUMP for a hell of a deal. :D

SLippe
11-15-07, 07:01 AM
It isn't one of the stripped down newer models (like the xtremegamer). This is the original.

It doesn't have the X-RAM but nothing uses that anyway, and nothing ever will.

If you use analog audio and don't need DDL or DTS Connect, this is one of the best sound cards you can buy for gaming.


BUMP for a hell of a deal. :D
Thank you. :)

Damnit! Why couldn't payday be tomorrow instead of next Friday! Ugh!

buffbiff21
11-15-07, 07:24 AM
Indeed, for analog output gaming, this card rules. It's also easily modifiable. :) Just swap out the opamp and replace some caps and you've got yourself a world class card. (my other X-Fi is modded, but it's not for sale. :) )

SLippe
11-15-07, 08:24 PM
Indeed, for analog output gaming, this card rules. It's also easily modifiable. :) Just swap out the opamp and replace some caps and you've got yourself a world class card. (my other X-Fi is modded, but it's not for sale. :) )
What's an "opamp"? :D

Well, if it's still available by next Friday, I'll take it, but doubt it will be. :(

mythy
11-15-07, 08:34 PM
What's an "opamp"? :D

:(



Operational Amplifier :p Silly n00blet :D


And a bump for a great DEAL!

Oh and just a note tho you cant use a mic and digital out at the same time...

SLippe
11-15-07, 08:37 PM
Operational Amplifier :p Silly n00blet :D


And a bump for a great DEAL!

Oh and just a note tho you cant use a mic and digital out at the same time...
Thanks. :o

buffbiff21
11-16-07, 12:37 AM
Sorry SLippe, sold at [H]

SLippe
11-16-07, 02:21 AM
Sorry SLippe, sold at [H]
Sonofa.....! Ah, congrats, man. ;) I knew it wouldn't last long.

Airbrushkid
11-16-07, 04:04 AM
Hey SLippe,
Go over to [H] there was one of the same for $40.00 shipped.

SLippe
11-16-07, 04:52 AM
Hey SLippe,
Go over to [H] there was one of the same for $40.00 shipped.
I found one that is $45 shipped. Can you PM the link?

Airbrushkid
11-16-07, 05:35 AM
I didn't save the link. I already have a Xfi. Sorry.

buffbiff21
11-16-07, 05:46 AM
Mine was minty fresh though :D

Yeah, you can sometimes get them for $49.99 OEM "new." Only thing is, they're probably system pulls from Dell or HP, don't have the CD, and Creative's site doesn't host the ISO or any of the installation files. Just the drivers. They then charge you to send you the installation disc in the mail. Creative's business model is crap. AFAIK they pulled the plug on this card because it was TOO good of a deal for the consumer and they weren't making enough $$$, hence all these hackass "XtremeAudio" and "XtremeGamer" versions. Just dumbed down PCB and hardware, with the X-Fi processor. Either those, or the $150+ cards (which's hardware is still lacking in comparison to Auzen) are your only options now if you want a brand new X-Fi chip.

SLippe
11-16-07, 05:58 AM
Mine was minty fresh though :D

Yeah, you can sometimes get them for $49.99 OEM "new." Only thing is, they're probably system pulls from Dell or HP, don't have the CD, and Creative's site doesn't host the ISO or any of the installation files. Just the drivers. They then charge you to send you the installation disc in the mail. Creative's business model is crap. AFAIK they pulled the plug on this card because it was TOO good of a deal for the consumer and they weren't making enough $$$, hence all these hackass "XtremeAudio" and "XtremeGamer" versions. Just dumbed down PCB and hardware, with the X-Fi processor. Either those, or the $150+ cards (which's hardware is still lacking in comparison to Auzen) are your only options now if you want a brand new X-Fi chip.
Thanks for the info. Is there an easy way to tell the cards apart, like on eBay? I may need to go back to an Audigy 2 huh? :)

buffbiff21
11-16-07, 06:02 AM
You can basically tell right away. The thicker, more badass looking cards are the ones with more choke, better DAC, and better opamps. They look ballsier and have more libido.

Good:

http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/11/0,1425,i=117856,00.jpg

Hackass:

http://i.pricerunner.com/prod/12_1_4_15_754362s/Creative_SoundBlaster_X-Fi_XtremeAudio_PCI.jpeg

But, if you look at something like the X-Meridian (I love posting pics of it because it's so sexy :) ) pay attention to the caps in particular) this card blows away Creative's crap in terms of sound quality. It also has swappable opamps (without requirement of solder iron), onboard AC97 header, and onboard S/PDIF out.

http://regmedia.co.uk/2006/11/23/xmeridian_1.jpg

My other X-Fi has an LM4562 for analog output. I use it for games, and X-meridian for all else. Keep in mind that X-meridian's quite picky with speakers, and you need either some very expensive ones or some good headphones to get the most out of it. Same is true with X-Fi, but to a lesser extent.

Part of the reason people are creaming their pants over the X-Fi Prelude is because it's Auzen's hardware with the X-Fi chip! That's basically the best in computer audio as of now. All it needs are its digital out issues resolved and I claim it as the ultimate computer soundcard.

SLippe
11-16-07, 06:07 AM
And where could one get such a card and for how much? :D

http://regmedia.co.uk/2006/11/23/xmeridian_1.jpg

Thanks for all your help, man.

Edit: Oh, so on the X-Fi XtremeMusic card, and others, if it's the "wide" card, then it should be okay? I noticed some don't have the black heatsink, but that may just be a stock picture. So avoid the "skinny" cards? :)

buffbiff21
11-16-07, 06:10 AM
Unfortunately that has been discontinued as well. :(

Search [H], Anandtech, eBay... maybe Froogle. The X-Plosion and X-Mistique are still in continuation, but I believe they have lesser quality DACs.

Also check out the HT Omega Claro plus. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829271003) Just as sexy as the X-meridian. Or the Striker (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829271001). These cards use C-Media APUs and don't have EAX5.0 which is generally why they're ignored by the gaming populus. My thoughts on that are "meh," as I have my other X-fi still handy. I listen to music and watch movies primarily on my computer anyway so I rarely have to switch cards.

Edit: Oh, so on the X-Fi XtremeMusic card, and others, if it's the "wide" card, then it should be okay? I noticed some don't have the black heatsink, but that may just be a stock picture. So avoid the "skinny" cards? :)
Yeah. But watch out for the ripoff "wide" cards! The Fatal1ty, Platinum, Elite... they're all ripoffs. But for the most part wide = good. Think, you want Bianca Beauchamp, rather than Mary Kate Olsen.

For the black heatsink, I'm not sure. Each one I have owned has had it. The chip itself gets pretty hot... yes, an audio card with a heatsink.....

SLippe
11-16-07, 06:25 AM
Unfortunately that has been discontinued as well. :(

Search [H], Anandtech, eBay... maybe Froogle. The X-Plosion and X-Mistique are still in continuation, but I believe they have lesser quality DACs.

Also check out the HT Omega Claro plus. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829271003) Just as sexy as the X-meridian. Or the Striker (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829271001). These cards use C-Media APUs and don't have EAX5.0 which is generally why they're ignored by the gaming populus. My thoughts on that are "meh," as I have my other X-fi still handy. I listen to music and watch movies primarily on my computer anyway so I rarely have to switch cards.
Cool. I need something that will play well for movies, mp3s and games. I'm looking at this ebay # 330186888534. Is that one good to go?

buffbiff21
11-16-07, 06:34 AM
Yup, that's a good one. Little expensive (shipping), but it's an XtremeMusic.

SLippe
11-16-07, 06:36 AM
Yup, that's a good one.
Okay, cool. I typed in "xtrememusic" on eBay and it came back with 7 auctions and they all look the same! LOL Ugh! One has a Buy It Now for $50, but I don't know!

Also, I don't have any speakers at the moment, so I'm not restricted there. ;)

You've been very helpful, thanks, man. (kept me busy/awake at work) :D

buffbiff21
11-16-07, 06:39 AM
(kept me busy/awake at work) :D
LOL likewise. I'm here until 7AM then I have class all day.

Be sure to get some good speakers! I can't really recommend any as you'd have to try some out yourself. You got a receiver?

SLippe
11-16-07, 06:41 AM
LOL likewise. I'm here until 7AM then I have class all day.

Be sure to get some good speakers! I can't really recommend any as you'd have to try some out yourself.
I take it I need speakers that can do Digital? Or is Analog fine with this card?

Yeah, I'm here until 6:30 a.m., about another 45 minutes or so. I work 12 hours shifts with nothing to do. LOL

buffbiff21
11-16-07, 06:48 AM
Well, in order to get digital out with an X-fi, you'd need a flexijack. That's what someone was referring to on the first page of this thread. You plug that into the mic jack, and then wire an optical or coaxial cable to your receiver. That flexijack device is another $~40 from Creative. You'd also need a receiver that decodes DD or DTS.

Analog is just headphones straight into the soundcard jack, or you know the red and white composite cables? That's a dead giveaway of an analog stereo signal. Two channels, no separation of soundstage or signal data. As a result some dynamics are lost, and signal loss is easier to incur.

WOW I'm on a roll tonight. Btw digital = S/PDIF = coaxial = optical, essentially.

Airbrushkid
11-16-07, 07:24 AM
The one I saw at [H] came with the retail box and everything else. And it was this one below.


http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/11/0,1425,i=117856,00.jpg