My coolit eliminator experience

[verboten]

I recently acquired a new coolit eliminator very cheap. I was a little wary about using it on my Q6600 after reading some reviews. From what i have read, the freezone is geared towards quads while the eliminator is better suited for duals. To my surprise, the eliminator works wonders.

I first installed it running at stock speeds (2.4Ghz) and my idle temps were at 13c-15c and load never got past 35c. I bumped my speeds to 8x400 (3.2Ghz) and now my temps are 23c-25c idle and 47c-50c after 2 hours of Prime95.

Did i get lucky here or is the Q6600 G0 that much cooler

[DiscipleDOC]

I recently acquired a new coolit eliminator very cheap. I was a little wary about using it on my Q6600 after reading some reviews. From what i have read, the freezone is geared towards quads while the eliminator is better suited for duals. To my surprise, the eliminator works wonders.

I first installed it running at stock speeds (2.4Ghz) and my idle temps were at 13c-15c and load never got past 35c. I bumped my speeds to 8x400 (3.2Ghz) and now my temps are 23c-25c idle and 47c-50c after 2 hours of Prime95.

Did i get lucky here or is the Q6600 G0 that much cooler
That's about spot on. I got a FreeZone, and I get about 30-35 playing Crysis for about an hour...

[verboten]

Thanks DOC! If i were to run at stock speeds, should i be worried about such low temps (below ambient)? Also, I have a 6850 in my media center pc. I wonder if I swapped chips, how high i could overclock it? Wouldn't that chip run even cooler than the quad?

Thanks

BTW, DOC

According to your sig, we have the same monitor. Do you have any issues with banding? Mine was pretty bad. I noticed the OSD was indicating a refresh rate of 59.7 Hz. With the Nvidia drivers (169.09), I set a custom timing for 1920x1200 and forced the refresh to 60Hz. I verified this with the OSD, then fired up the Nvidia display optimizer. The banding in gradients is no longer as noticeable - still there, but not as pronounced.

[lduguay]

TDP is 130W for the QX6850 and 95W for the Q6600 G0 and 65W for the E6850. No sure if you are talking about the QX6850 or the E6850, you could do the maths.
There is nothing wrong running below ambient temp. Unless you want to use nitrogen cooling, then you would have other problems to take care of.

[Slammin]

Below ambient+high dew point=condensation.

Use something like coretemp or Everest to get an accurate tempurature reading.

[verboten]

Below ambient+high dew point=condensation.

Use something like coretemp or Everest to get an accurate tempurature reading.

At stock speeds, this is my fear. As long as I stick to my overclock, I should be fine. All my temp readings are from either Coretemp or Everest.

http://www.endustfiltration.com/images/bench.jpg

[newfiejudd]

I believe they are introducing a new Coolit system for Quads. And extreme or elite edition. I am hoping they will help me cool my QX6850. Thanks for the info. I have been reading reviews and it's a hit or a miss with those coolit systems.

[Redeemed]

You know, anymore I'm hearing *very positive* feedback about the CoolIT systems. I'm thinking about picking one up for my Opty... and then when I get my E6600 up and going swap it over to that rig. I really want this chip running in the 30s idle and peaking in the 40s, and I'm betting the Eliminator could do just that. ;)

Right now, if I don't use my rig for an extended period of time it'll "idle" (if there is such a thing in Vista :p ) at about 48*C. Under load it gets to about 55-58*C. Much too hot for my liking, and that is only with a 200MHz OC. :(

[mythy]

meh I have a eliminator on my desk! Got $70 and its yours but you'd need to get a mounting kit from them. :p

[Redeemed]

meh I have a eliminator on my desk! Got $70 and its yours but you'd need to get a mounting kit from them. :p
I could get a complete one from Newegg for maybe $100 more and it'd include a return policy. ;)

Thanks, but no thanks. :D

[crainger]

Are these the ones Tiki used to bang on about?

Pity the Freezone is still almost 500AUD :(

[mythy]

meh they suck anyway a lapped 120 ultra and a silent 120mm fan has more cooling power then one :thumbdwn:

[crainger]

meh they suck anyway a lapped 120 ultra and a silent 120mm fan has more cooling power then one :thumbdwn:

That's what I heard too. Why was Tiki raving about them so much? :(

[mythy]

because with lower thermal cpu's the coolits can droop the temps to sub ambient :p Other then that there worthless when the heats turned up :thumbdwn:

[Buckeye]

I am about the same temps as Doc has. I like mine a lot, except it does take a lot of room in the case.

There is a temperature control card that comes with the unit, can't remember what it's called atm. But you can set that so your temps do not go below ambient temps. I run my at stock and have not adjusted that card at all and everything is groovy.

They are far from worthless and do a pretty darn good job of cooling your CPU even if you OC. If you are a extreme OCer then there are better solutions, but other than that they work just fine.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/cooling/438/

[DarthBeavis]

I am about the same temps as Doc has. I like mine a lot, except it does take a lot of room in the case.

There is a temperature control card that comes with the unit, can't remember what it's called atm. But you can set that so your temps do not go below ambient temps. I run my at stock and have not adjusted that card at all and everything is groovy.

They are far from worthless and do a pretty darn good job of cooling your CPU even if you OC. If you are a extreme OCer then there are better solutions, but other than that they work just fine.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/cooling/438/
YOu are better off with decent blocks and a Thermochill PA 120.3 . . .

[Buckeye]

You may be right as WCing will most likely do a much better job. I plan on doing that after the first of the year. There is always something better out there. I would love to go with a VaporChill and might, but I have read not so good reviews with Quads on those.

But that's not the point.

It is a self contained unit that is very easy to mount and does a pretty darn good job at cooling. Not everyone wants to go the WC route and this is a good answer to that.

[DarthBeavis]

You may be right as WCing will most likely do a much better job. I plan on doing that after the first of the year. There is always something better out there. I would love to go with a VaporChill and might, but I have read not so good reviews with Quads on those.

But that's not the point.

It is a self contained unit that is very easy to mount and does a pretty darn good job at cooling. Not everyone wants to go the WC route and this is a good answer to that.
You want a custom built phase unit or a modded vapochill


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Mine does a QX6700 at -40c . . .

You need the same componets as watercooling using a CoolIt plus more power . . .just not efficient. It is just a pelt. . .

[breathemetal]

I wish i could afford a phase unit...

[Buckeye]

That is just want I am planning on making. Christmas gifts FTW !

How does that unit hold up with a Quad ?

I am undecided on motherboard SLI setup tho. Waiting to see what Nvida comes out with, other wise it's my two BFG 8800GTX OC's and undecided on motherboard.

I thought it was you DB who had teh Stacker VaporChill setup ?

[Redeemed]

And the haters have entered the thread... :rolleyes:

[DarthBeavis]

And the haters have entered the thread... :rolleyes:
Cost/benefit dude. No need for hate. If it worked then I would be all for it. The fact is there is ambient and below ambient. You can make an effective pelt system but to do so you need more than a single 120 mm fan rad to dissipate the heat. You also need a potent PSU to power the pelt which is why a serious pelt-based system will have a separate PSU for the pelt (like a Meanwell PSU). You need a beefy pelt to pull enough heat off a quad core. As I said a decent straight watercooling system will do as much or more than the CoolIt systems and will cost you the same or less and are more straighforward. You can get a custom-built phase unit for 400-500 bucks if you ask around . . .

Say what you want but refute with facts. I have pelts, I have watercooling, and I have a phase change unit. I also am part of one of the world record setting overclocking groups with tons of expertise in extreme cooling . . .so I have pretty good access to info. If the CoolIT works for you that is great. . .I think you can do better. One thing to think about is doing waterchilling. If you go below ambient you need to take measures against condensation . . .but the rewards are worth it. . .

[Redeemed]

Cost/benefit dude. No need for hate. If it worked then I would be all for it. The fact is there is ambient and below ambient. You can make an effective pelt system but to do so you need more than a single 120 mm fan rad to dissipate the heat. You also need a potent PSU to power the pelt which is why a serious pelt-based system will have a separate PSU for the pelt (like a Meanwell PSU). You need a beefy pelt to pull enough heat off a quad core. As I said a decent straight watercooling system will do as much or more than the CoolIt systems and will cost you the same or less and are more straighforward. You can get a custom-built phase unit for 400-500 bucks if you ask around . . .

Say what you want but refute with facts. I have pelts, I have watercooling, and I have a phase change unit. I also am part of one of the world record setting overclocking groups with tons of expertise in extreme cooling . . .so I have pretty good access to info. If the CoolIT works for you that is great. . .I think you can do better. One thing to think about is doing waterchilling. If you go below ambient you need to take measures against condensation . . .but the rewards are worth it. . .

The problem is not everybody has the money to put down on such a setup. I have an income of just over $14k a year. Can you imagine how long I have to save just to afford each new upgrade? It'd take sooooo much longer if I went with the extreme cooling options you mentioned. I can have the Eliminator delivered for *just* over $200. To get a decent WC setup I'd be spending atleast $100 more. I *have* priced them, and I *have* strongly considered them. For right now they're just out of my price range.

Furthermore, I'm seeing many people getting near the same overclocks you guys are (over 3.5GHz) stable while not breaching 30*C- how is that bad? For only $200, if I hear many more reviews from actual users like this I'll be all over the Eliminator.

And don't get me wrong, when I start bringing in more money and can afford it I'll be going with a fully custom WC setup. Right now it is just beyond my capabilities financialy.

[mythy]

I'm seeing many people getting near the same overclocks you guys are (over 3.5GHz) stable while not breaching 30*C- how is that bad?



What?!?! The Eliminator Cant take a quad to 3.5GHz and maintain 30C no way in hell. Maybe maintain 50C if there room temp is around 70. My eliminator was only able to maintain 52C at 3.4GHz and that was with its fan on high and its quite noisy like that

[Redeemed]

What?!?! The Eliminator Cant take a quad to 3.5GHz and maintain 30C no way in hell. Maybe maintain 50C if there room temp is around 70. My eliminator was only able to maintain 52C at 3.4GHz and that was with its fan on high and its quite noisy like that

At stock speeds, this is my fear. As long as I stick to my overclock, I should be fine. All my temp readings are from either Coretemp or Everest.

http://www.endustfiltration.com/images/bench.jpg

If the Eliminator can do that for the Q6600, then I see no reason why I couldn't OC my Opty to atleast 3Ghz while not breaching 40*C under load. And for my E6600 I should be able to do atleast 3.4 I'd imagine while not breaching 40*C.