Just Who's B#tch are we?

[1stFlight]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41900-2003Apr16.html


I'm sitting here wondering, just why is Israel telling us to do anything? Let alone why are we sucking their tit like we're a crack baby.

I'm also wondering if that one Congressman who said israel was pushing the Iraq war, wasn't too far off the mark.

[LiquidX]

Maybe be because Israel might bare the brunt of an attack like that IMO. Israel is a very much hated state in the East. Israel and the USA relationship is very interesting though, Like a cool kid befriending a nerdy kid in school whom everyone picks on but at the same time is very wary of because they know his father has a collection of guns. Almost every country surrounding it has ill will for them but here we are a couple thousand miles away there main allie.

Also are you forgeting Iraq tried to blow them out of the East last time around?

[UDawg]

If there is one thing this would should have shown us is that Islamic fundametalism is a world wide serious problem. Terrorist organizations thrive in countries like Iraq, Syria and Iran. Isreal is not just attacked by Palistinian but by terrorists from all over the region. I don't blame Isreal.

Isreal is a big boy they can take care of Syria if they wanted to. Shoot Ireal could take over the middle east if they wanted to.

I don't unerstand your problem with Ireal. It is unrational just like the Muslim's irrational hatred towards Isreal and Jews. Would you like Isreal pushed into the sea just like Yasser "said" and wants?

[2fast4u]

imo israels state sponsored terror against the palestenians is very much alike islamic fundamentalist actions. they should sort out their own crap before they go around pointing on others being evil.

[LORD-eX-Bu]

I'm not denying anything, but I just don't trust the Washington Post for anything other than a liberal spin, just like you 1stFlight:lol:

Whats wrong with Israel proposing recommendations? Every other country in the world does this:lol:

You would rather have Hamas, Islamic Jihad and whatever other crazy anti-semite group running around gunning down civillians? :lol:

You should go back to worrying over your taxes.

[2fast4u]

Originally posted by [eNv]-LORD-eX-Bu

Whats wrong with Israel proposing recommendations? Every other country in the world does this:lol:

You would rather have Hamas, Islamic Jihad and whatever other crazy anti-semite group running around gunning down civillians? :lol:

You should go back to worrying over your taxes.

i dont say theres anything wrong with it. im saying that i dont see israel in the position to be crying how they are being treatened by others while they take the best efforts for that to continue. take their actions against the palestenians for example, its no wonder terrorism continues if they react with terrorism themselves. clean up before your own door before you start pointing on others. for that matter, what would you say if syria would reccomend the usa to sanction israel because they sponsor terrorism? :D

[LORD-eX-Bu]

well, I'd have to ignore them, on grounds that they supported and armed Hussein's regime even during our little conflict;)

[2fast4u]

so you agree that sharon should shut up? ;)

[LORD-eX-Bu]

I agree that we have to resolve that situation ASAP;)

[vampireuk]

Originally posted by [eNv]-LORD-eX-Bu
I agree that we have to resolve that situation ASAP;)

Which is where Blair and his one decent thing he has ever ever done comes in. He has been pushing the middle east peace plan for a long long time. Wonder what would happen if Sharon said no and bus was forced to chose between israel and britain:D

[LORD-eX-Bu]

rofl, well, Sharon tried to give up those settlements on the west bank for peace, Palestinians refused the proposal and laughed at it. Surprisingly, Arafat, and the rest of his guys support the plan that the US has proposed, don't know if Sharon was trying to butter anyone up to change certain details, but either way, looks like he is willing to compramise now:confused: Just wish the other side would as well...

bah, half of you Brits are hebrew anyways, just need to get cut :p

[1stFlight]

eNv - Wrong on that one. Sharon hasn't given up a thing, his party's platform is all about supporting the settlements and building more of them, (don't forget, just what they"re "settling") not to mention the parties is allied with think the same.

Sharon's no different than an evil dictator, with WMD's, and now they aren't (going to be) the only democracy in the ME. Hopefully we can save a few billion and lower all our taxes....

It's more than past time the israeli's reformed their ways, they're as screwed up as their neighbors. Which reminds me, israel has yet to submit any kind of peace plan (aside from a bulldozer and we see how ineffective that is), makes you wonder with no plan on their side, what do they intend to d with Palestinians they keep moving off their own land... American Indians anyone?

Originally posted by [eNv]-LORD-eX-Bu
rofl, well, Sharon tried to give up those settlements on the west bank for peace, Palestinians refused the proposal and laughed at it. Surprisingly, Arafat, and the rest of his guys support the plan that the US has proposed, don't know if Sharon was trying to butter anyone up to change certain details, but either way, looks like he is willing to compramise now:confused: Just wish the other side would as well...

bah, half of you Brits are hebrew anyways, just need to get cut :p

[vampireuk]

Originally posted by [eNv]-LORD-eX-Bu
bah, half of you Brits are hebrew anyways, just need to get cut :p

Not me :p and no one is coming near me with a knife:eek:

[LORD-eX-Bu]

Originally posted by 1stFlight
eNv - Wrong on that one. Sharon hasn't given up a thing, his party's platform is all about supporting the settlements and building more of them, (don't forget, just what they"re "settling") not to mention the parties is allied with think the same.

I never claimed he has, if you would pay attention though you would have realized and noticed that he did make an "offer" to the palestinians a few days back. That is all I claimed, nothing else;)

[LORD-eX-Bu]

Originally posted by 1stFlight
American Indians anyone?

roflmao, anything else?:lol:

[DaveW]

Originally posted by [eNv]-LORD-eX-Bu

bah, half of you Brits are hebrew anyways, just need to get cut :p

There aren't that many in the UK. Besides, America is the only country where christians snip off parts of the sons.

[vampireuk]

Originally posted by DaveW
There aren't that many in the UK. Besides, America is the only country where christians snip off parts of the sons.

You guys are weird:eek:

[UDawg]

Originally posted by vampireuk
Not me :p and no one is coming near me with a knife:eek:

Why do I have this info in my head now? :( I don't need to know about your bits and pieces. :p

[UDawg]

Sharon said a day or two ago that Isreal would pull out of some settlements. Isreal always conceed then they get :nutkick: for it.

I don't understand why people think that suicide bimbings are ok. Isreal tries it's best to target military targets but is gets hard when these cowards hide behind women and children. The little beotches think they are tough until they come up to a military. Even gun on gun battles they lose. They are no match for any military units. Cheap little snot nosed cowards the suicide bombers and terrorist are.

The middle east holds them up as heroes yet they haven't won any wars with these tatics.

[LORD-eX-Bu]

Originally posted by DaveW
There aren't that many in the UK. Besides, America is the only country where christians snip off parts of the sons.

<--- BORN IN HONDURAS:p

[UDawg]

Originally posted by [eNv]-LORD-eX-Bu
<--- BORN IN HONDURAS:p

My sister-in-law lived in Honduras for a year.

[LORD-eX-Bu]

really?!? when and where?:D

[UDawg]

Originally posted by [eNv]-LORD-eX-Bu
really?!? when and where?:D

Late 80's and I think it was the capitol city, which I don't member it's name. LOL She whent there as a exchange student.

[LORD-eX-Bu]

I was there in the late 80's:D eh, tegucigalpa or something like that, been forever since I spoke spanish or been there:lol:

[1stFlight]

ROTFLMAO!!! "Tries it's best" I bet you realyl believe that don't you?!! *LOL* Let's see, firing sabot rounds at a crowd of unarmed people, crushing an American beneth an armored bulldozer, and shooting two unarmed British citizens, dropping bombs into crowded cities, yeah if they were trying their best I'd hate to see them "intend" to kill anyone...

"Painful concessions".. the only thing painful was that sharon said it, it's called lip service, he hasn't conceded anything in 3 years, why start now? All he's done is hide his mass graves.

As despicable as suicide bombing are, they are the last weapon left. The Palestinians have already tried ALL the legal alternatives and had the US shut them down every single time. What the h#ll do you expect them to do. sit back and get slaughtered like lambs? Would you go to your death, or slavery like a lamb, or like a wolf...I think we all know the answer to that question.

Originally posted by UDawg71
Sharon said a day or two ago that Isreal would pull out of some settlements. Isreal always conceed then they get :nutkick: for it.

I don't understand why people think that suicide bimbings are ok. Isreal tries it's best to target military targets but is gets hard when these cowards hide behind women and children. The little beotches think they are tough until they come up to a military. Even gun on gun battles they lose. They are no match for any military units. Cheap little snot nosed cowards the suicide bombers and terrorist are.

The middle east holds them up as heroes yet they haven't won any wars with these tatics.