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varrius
11-25-07, 07:50 PM
It has come to my attention that ASUS has released a list of 45nm compatibility on their motherboards. All of the people with ASUS 680i's, sorry, your hope is lost. The following chart confirms that only the Dual-Core 45nm chips will operate on the pegASUS 680i motherboards, just like the EVGA model.

http://event.asus.com/mb/45nm/

Uberpwnage
11-25-07, 07:55 PM
According to that chart, 780i won't support 45nm quads either...

shabby
11-25-07, 07:58 PM
According to that chart, 780i won't support 45nm quads either...

780i is just 680i + pcie 2.0 so im not suprised. But damn i'd be pissed if a mobo as pricey as the 680i couldnt support a 45nm quadcore. Even my "old" p5b deluxe supports it.

varrius
11-25-07, 08:02 PM
According to that chart, 780i won't support 45nm quads either...

I'm not sure I understand. The 780i isn't listed as far as I can see. Both the striker and striker extreme are 680i boards. The extreme released after the striker, similar to the "MAXIMUS EXTREME" etc.

varrius
11-25-07, 08:02 PM
780i is just 680i + pcie 2.0 so im not suprised. But damn i'd be pissed if a mobo as pricey as the 680i couldnt support a 45nm quadcore. Even my "old" p5b deluxe supports it.

That is the rumor, but, it hasn't been confirmed. It seems to be an altered 680i, though, with Tri-Sli capability.

stevemedes
11-25-07, 08:37 PM
This is awesome, probably gonna stick with my P5B Deluxe then for awhile.

$n][pErMan
11-25-07, 10:26 PM
This is awesome, probably gonna stick with my P5B Deluxe then for awhile.
Ya, no joke. Best mobo I ever bought! SLi is a buggy POS anyway... who needs it... ;)

Technoholic
11-25-07, 11:54 PM
:fu: My motherboard doesn't support QUAD 45nm processor!!! :(

Amuro
11-26-07, 05:28 AM
LOL, I ordered the Maximus Formula X38 board last Tue after seeing this list. But that mobo had so many issues so I sent it back today. The 780i was delayed to next month due to Penryn issues. Originally, both the 680i and 780i were supposed to be compatible with the 45nm Yorfields, but Intel modified the chip two weeks before launch. I hope when the 780i finally launches, it will have full support for the Yorkfield processors. BTW, Asus will have two boards based on the 780i chipset, the Striker II Formula and P5NT-Deluxe. There's probably gonna be another Stirker II Extreme based on the 790i next year.

varrius
11-26-07, 08:56 AM
LOL, I ordered the Maximus Formula X38 board last Tue after seeing this list. But that mobo had so many issues so I sent it back today. The 780i was delayed to next month due to Penryn issues. Originally, both the 680i and 780i were supposed to be compatible with the 45nm Yorfields, but Intel modified the chip two weeks before launch. I hope when the 780i finally launches, it will have full support for the Yorkfield processors. BTW, Asus will have two boards based on the 780i chipset, the Striker II Formula and P5NT-Deluxe. There's probably gonna be another Stirker II Extreme based on the 790i next year.

I'm giving it until next month. If it's not out early next month, I will ditch SLi. Maybe I will go crossfire in the future, or perhaps nvidia will stop being babies and make some SLi drivers for the X38, it would probably be more stable if they focused on video cards. If I do go X38, though, I will likely get the Gigabyte board. Most benchmarks I see with ONE ultra vs the top-of-the-line 1GB DDR4 2900XT Crossfire setup, the Ultra is leading if not equal. So, they need to make another high-end card before I make the jump.

Tr1cK
11-26-07, 08:59 AM
NV boards are such crap when compared to Intels. I wish I hadn't bought one. :(

Eliminator
11-26-07, 09:08 AM
sweet... p5b deluxe ftw!

wysiwyg
11-26-07, 09:22 AM
hmm i got the 680i as it was recomended in many PC magazines plus i got it for SLI but i do not think ill ever be getting sli now :S

911medic
11-26-07, 09:45 AM
Yayyy! My old (and relatively cheap) P5B-E is on the list.

911medic
11-26-07, 09:48 AM
do all p35 boards support 45nm quad?I don't know about "all," but here are the ones from ASUS on the list: P5K3 Premium/WiFi-AP
Intel P35/ICH9R
1333

P5K3 DELUXE/WiFi-AP
Intel P35/ICH9R
1333

P5K Premium/WiFi-AP
Intel P35/ICH9R
1333

P5K DELUXE/WiFi-AP
Intel P35/ICH9R
1333

P5K-E/WiFi-AP
Intel P35/ICH9R
1333

P5K-E
Intel P35/ICH9R
1333

P5K PRO
Intel P35/ICH9R
1333

P5KR
Intel P35/ICH9R
1333

P5KC
Intel P35/ICH9
1333

P5K
Intel P35/ICH9
1333

P5K SE
Intel P35/ICH9
1333

Dual Core Joe
11-26-07, 11:28 AM
I must be on the moon. I cant figure based on that chart whether my eVGA 680i will support the new arcitecture? (45)

Bman212121
11-26-07, 11:47 AM
The way it's worded I'm assuming those are the boards that already have the bios update available for 45nm quads. I would assume a lot more boards could probably run it with a bios update.

varrius
11-26-07, 11:58 AM
The way it's worded I'm assuming those are the boards that already have the bios update available for 45nm quads. I would assume a lot more boards could probably run it with a bios update.

It's unlikely, EVGA already declared their 680i incompatible with the 45nm quads on their forum via a tech: http://evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=167016&mpage=1&key=𨱨

They state it'll only operate with the wolfsdale dual-core. If you look onward, to page 4, you'll notice how it also states that it is a "hardware" limitation.

To the other guy, that chart is for ASUS boards only, EVGA boards aren't listed. Check the forum thread I linked here, though. It'll show you that your EVGA board is incompatible, as well.

newls1
11-26-07, 12:14 PM
LOL, I ordered the Maximus Formula X38 board last Tue after seeing this list. But that mobo had so many issues so I sent it back today. The 780i was delayed to next month due to Penryn issues. Originally, both the 680i and 780i were supposed to be compatible with the 45nm Yorfields, but Intel modified the chip two weeks before launch. I hope when the 780i finally launches, it will have full support for the Yorkfield processors. BTW, Asus will have two boards based on the 780i chipset, the Striker II Formula and P5NT-Deluxe. There's probably gonna be another Stirker II Extreme based on the 790i next year.
BIOS 911 fixed about 99.8% of all the board weirdness. Should have kept it:D

varrius
11-26-07, 12:29 PM
BIOS 911 fixed about 99.8% of all the board weirdness. Should have kept it:D

ASUS is hit and miss these days. A lot of their ways have changed as have their employees. People only live for so long. It's basically a new company with an old name.

newls1
11-26-07, 12:52 PM
ASUS is hit and miss these days. A lot of their ways have changed as have their employees. People only live for so long. It's basically a new company with an old name.
what makes you say that? As far as im concerned ASUS turns out a great product, and more and more as we seeing them tailor themselves around "US" the ethusiast:p . Since they sell the most motherboards then anyone else (I think) they will just like any other company, have a few customers who say "Asus sucks, blah, blah" that just comes with the teritory I think. I've been with G-byte, DFI, Intel, Abit, Foxconn, MSI, ECS, etc... THe only motherboard that could hold an OC, stress my RAM to the fullest and still be 100% stable is ASUS, and has been for the last 1 1/2 years.....

$n][pErMan
11-26-07, 01:07 PM
ASUS for the win! :) I have owned far more ASUS boards than any other motherboard brand.... they have yet to disappoint me :)

mullet
11-26-07, 01:33 PM
[pErMan']ASUS for the win! :) I have owned far more ASUS boards than any other motherboard brand.... they have yet to disappoint me :)

+1

Revs
11-26-07, 02:18 PM
I still can't see a reason to shell out on a quad core anyhow. I know this sounds like sower grapes with me having a Striker Extreme, but the only reason I would get a quad was for Crysis. But the improvements aint worth the cost from what I can see. Maybe you can enlighten me!

What games genuinely benefit from a quad core?

newls1
11-26-07, 02:51 PM
I still can't see a reason to shell out on a quad core anyhow. I know this sounds like sower grapes with me having a Striker Extreme, but the only reason I would get a quad was for Crysis. But the improvements aint worth the cost from what I can see. Maybe you can enlighten me!

What games genuinely benefit from a quad core?
Very few games benifit from a QUAD right now, BUT....you can't think "NOW" you have to think down the road. This is the exact same ball field 2 years ago when everyone was talking about how dual core was pointless, cause no games support or benifit from both cores, so why do I need 1 when my AMD FX57 is doing so well;) Look at the PC arena NOW! Most everything can/does/will support dual cores, and QUAD core is just a short mile away. Yes, by the time most games support QUAD cores, the Q6600, QX9650, etc.... will be outdated, but some current games "CAN" benifit from all 4 cores in 1 way or another. BIOSHOCK, Crysis has a patch coming out to better support SLi, and quad cores, and even if games dont support the other 2 or 3 cores, the windows experience is that much smoother, even with 10 million apps open:D Also keep in mind that a "G0" Q6600 OC's insanely, so if your luck enough to get an OC of 3.6GHZ+ having 4 cores at this speed is just nuts........

Not that 3dmark06 is a game, but my 3dmark06 score is only 800 less then yours and you have SLi 8800GT's, where as I only have 1 8800GTS 640. Here you can see that advantage of a quad core. MY CPU score alone in 3dmark06 is 6200