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Maverickman
12-09-07, 10:18 AM
I've heard that the G92 8800 GTS will retail anywhere from $349-$399, but it looks like $399 is going to be the price at launch. With the 8800 GT selling for about $299, is it worth the extra $100 o go for the 8800 GTS? It's still tough to find the 8800 GTs, but the 8800 GTS at $399 might not have the demand.
It would probably be a better performer than the 8800 GTS which is pointless to buy. What does everyone think as I'm going to be making a decision very shortly.

Revs
12-09-07, 10:30 AM
8800GTS G92 vs GT http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1237/nvidia_g92_overclocked_gt_vs_gts_512/index.html

Revs
12-09-07, 10:48 AM
It seems the GTS 512 is about 5-20% faster than the GT, although more like 5-10% in most of the tests. This is probably due to the cooler allowing for a higher GPU clock and the RAM seems to OC quite a bit higher too. Is it worth the extra money? I'd say no.

I wonder how the Asus 8800GT 1024mb will be priced. If it's the same sort of money i'd get it over this new GTS. I know the extra memory probably won't make a huge difference in most games but it's better cooler might allow for a better GPU OC. Also the new RAM might clock higher.

I wish they'd stop faffing about with the current range of cards and just crack on with the 9 series.

Maverickman
12-09-07, 11:07 AM
Speaking of the 9-series, I heard that it will be released in February and will have DX10.1. This is all talk as Nvidia won't comment on unannounced products. I think we won't really see the GeForce 9800 GTX until April at the earliest. Why would Nvidia want to sabotage its 8800 sales?

wEEt
12-09-07, 11:31 AM
You gotta explain that.

The new 9-series will be way faster than anything we have today, so you get more power for more money. Where's the sabotage in that?

shabby
12-09-07, 12:21 PM
Why would Nvidia want to sabotage its 8800 sales?

I dont think nvidia is going to release a $300 gf9 in feb, more like a high end 5-600 one.

Niot
12-09-07, 12:51 PM
I always doubt these OCed and cheaper cards. From the 6800GS to the 8800GT, they cut expensive stuff, (memory interface, pixel pipelines etc...) and they OC the core and make some tweaks for it. It just doesn't equal the original when you try to compromise quality with tricky tweaks.

Maverickman
12-09-07, 03:54 PM
The point I was making was if Nvidia releases the new 9-series in 2-3 months, it wouldn't make much sense picking up an 8800 GT or GTS now. It would be better to wait and see what the 9-series will cost. The 8800 GT is a great buy if you can get it for under $300, but I'm sure the 9-series will offer much better performance, albeit for more money. I guess it's another case of there's always something newer and better right over the horizon in the computer industry.

methimpikehoses
12-09-07, 04:02 PM
$399 is a good price for something possibly faster than a GTX if you are upgrading from a 7-series card. No point going from a GT to a new GTS tho.

Niot
12-09-07, 04:07 PM
The point I was making was if Nvidia releases the new 9-series in 2-3 months, it wouldn't make much sense picking up an 8800 GT or GTS now. It would be better to wait and see what the 9-series will cost. The 8800 GT is a great buy if you can get it for under $300, but I'm sure the 9-series will offer much better performance, albeit for more money. I guess it's another case of there's always something newer and better right over the horizon in the computer industry.
That's true, especially they are releasing the 9 series AFTER the holidays, which means they want to milk the 8 series for the last time this holiday, thus the GT and GTS.

This is just like the Microsoft and Intel monopolies, Nvidia is doing the same.

To all those who woos for monopoly, you got it.

spajdr
12-09-07, 05:34 PM
Surely my GTS overclocks like hell .. 800/2050 :) and thats not probably the end! :) GTs ended for me at 710-720

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3376/63885uu3.jpg

Niot
12-09-07, 06:01 PM
Surely my GTS overclocks like hell .. 800/2050 :) and thats not probably the end! :) GTs ended for me at 710-720

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3376/63885uu3.jpg
Can you show 3dMark 2006 scores instead?

HeavyH20
12-09-07, 06:30 PM
Yes, the older 3Dmarks are not much work for the newer cards. You can carry a higher OC with the older benches at a high LOD setting. Try running 3DMark06 at default LOD and quality settings to find the highest stable OC.

I have been able to get my stock coolered 8800 GT to 760 stable. I have to run some more tests to see how much higher it can go. But, like any lottery, the GTS cards have more of a chance at a higher OC if they are picked for tolerance. But, that does not guarantee that all GTS cards will fair better than the GT cards.

Niot
12-09-07, 06:44 PM
Yes, the older 3Dmarks are not much work for the newer cards. You can carry a higher OC with the older benches at a high LOD setting. Try running 3DMark06 at default LOD and quality settings to find the highest stable OC.

I have been able to get my stock coolered 8800 GT to 760 stable. I have to run some more tests to see how much higher it can go. But, like any lottery, the GTS cards have more of a chance at a higher OC if they are picked for tolerance. But, that does not guarantee that all GTS cards will fair better than the GT cards.
Double post.

Niot
12-09-07, 06:44 PM
Yes, the older 3Dmarks are not much work for the newer cards. You can carry a higher OC with the older benches at a high LOD setting. Try running 3DMark06 at default LOD and quality settings to find the highest stable OC.

I have been able to get my stock coolered 8800 GT to 760 stable. I have to run some more tests to see how much higher it can go. But, like any lottery, the GTS cards have more of a chance at a higher OC if they are picked for tolerance. But, that does not guarantee that all GTS cards will fair better than the GT cards.
And even 06 doesn't implement dx10.

03 uses SM2, way too old, does not represent today's games at all.

HeavyH20
12-09-07, 07:21 PM
Yes, true, but the SM 3.0 tests work things hard enough. Not like DX10, but hard enough to heat the card up to test failure.

SlieTheSecond
12-09-07, 08:17 PM
Agreed. Benching with 3d mark 03 which is all cpu now, is like using a Lamborghini on a go-kart track.