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nekrosoft13
12-09-07, 05:57 PM
HAHA, finally someone has to punish them for lying

A team of class action attorneys has launched an investigation into complaints that Halo 3 was falsely marketed as a high definition product, but does not actually render native high definition resolutions. These complaints are that, although Halo 3 was advertised as having a 720p resolution (720 pixels), it natively renders at 640p (640 pixels) and is simply scaled up to 720p. Read more about it here. If you purchased the Halo 3 game, you may be entitled to recover money. ***Please note the naming of a company does not imply that it engaged in any wrongdoing. ***

http://www.classactionconnect.com/?q=node/682&gclid=CNmcy_CemJACFRGCGgodCGVl8w

Source
http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EEAZEZyApZToXvVDGM.php

toxikneedle
12-09-07, 06:00 PM
I don't think they advertise anything as rendered, only as the resolutions that it outputs to. There are numerous games that don't render in 720p.... it doesn't mean anything.

jeffmd
12-09-07, 06:07 PM
Theres also many games that claim to be 1080i/p but are merely upscaled. Does that mean we can sue all them too? more frivolous lawsuits. imagine if we could sue a company for releasing a game that didn't have a feature that was advertised in a previous press release/interview/ect.

crainger
12-09-07, 06:10 PM
I don't think Bungie has anything to worry about.

Lyme
12-09-07, 06:23 PM
Every once and a while I try to say that Americans will not sue for anything, but clearly that isn't the case.

bacon12
12-09-07, 06:33 PM
I don't think Bungie has anything to worry about.


Except maybe some legal defense fees.

ViN86
12-09-07, 07:22 PM
Except maybe some legal defense fees.
well, when Bungie wins, the attorneys will more than likely be ordered to pay their legal fees by the court as well.

evilchris
12-09-07, 07:48 PM
What a load of crap

LycosV
12-09-07, 09:50 PM
There's no way they can win this. Upscaled still draws the pixels at the higher res, some of them are just the same color.

ViN86
12-09-07, 09:51 PM
There's no way they can win this. Upscaled still draws the pixels at the higher res, some of them are just the same color.
yep. many console games are upscaled. it's not like theyre the first ones to do it.

evilchris
12-09-07, 10:09 PM
yep. many console games are upscaled. it's not like theyre the first ones to do it.

the ps3 is all 1080pee d00d

delas52
12-09-07, 10:17 PM
I'm pretty sure bungie runs the government anyway.

ViN86
12-09-07, 10:26 PM
the ps3 is all 1080pee d00d
i hear the PS3 actually has to downscale most its games to 1080p.

MustangSVT
12-09-07, 10:32 PM
i hear the PS3 actually has to downscale most its games to 1080p.
Quote of the Day. (lee)

But seriously though, this is stupid. Does that mean I can now sue random game company for not having a feature that they said they will have in previous interview? lol

MustangSVT
12-09-07, 10:39 PM
Seriously though, I should sue like TSN-HD and most other HD channels for false advertising. It's called "HD", but a lot of times it's just an SD feed. I want my money back! (lee)

3DBrad
12-09-07, 10:49 PM
Sorry, this is not going to go anywhere.

PGR3 was not native 720 and was only upscaled.

And also, lower resolution than 1280x720 is considered "HD" and the whole market today offers "720p" LCD TVs that are 768p, etc.

nutcrackr
12-09-07, 10:55 PM
lol this is funny if shortlived

MustangSVT
12-10-07, 12:22 AM
Shouldn't we also be suing a lot of TV manufacturers for offering Plasma's that are "HD" but have resolutions like 1024x768 (16:9 ratio adjusted). ? :o

crainger
12-10-07, 12:26 AM
Seriously though, I should sue like TSN-HD and most other HD channels for false advertising. It's called "HD", but a lot of times it's just an SD feed. I want my money back! (lee)

Yeah. I remember here PrimeHD was broadcast in 576i for a good part of the year, now they switch from 576p to 1080i depending on the programme.

Zelda_fan
12-10-07, 12:30 AM
this is ****in rich

class action for not rendering at 720p. lmfao get a life you nerds.

jlippo
12-10-07, 02:14 AM
Silly lawsuit, which should never be possible without proper penalty for stupidity.
Tough it would be fun to see full resolution information in game cases. ;)

Game's rendered in 1024x768 backbuffer with intended aspect ratio of 16:9 or 16:10 depending on users choice.
Smoke effects rendered in half resolution in each dimension bringing the actual resolution of particle buffer to 512x384.
Shadow buffers for point lights, for each light 6x256x256 and main directional light 4x1024x1024.

Later in the future with some game using 'slightly' different rendering method.
Irregular rendering of backbuffer, amount of samples.
Min 532480, (average with regular rendering 1024x520)
Average 1843200, (average with regular rendering 1280x720 x2)
Max 7372800, (average with regular rendering 1280x720 x8)

Min samples for a pixel 1/4, max 32.
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Rendered image is scaled for any output resolution, upscaling using bicubic magnification filter and minification using bilinear mip-map chain.

NarcissistZero
12-10-07, 03:41 AM
Where the hell do they get "advertised as 720p"...? I never heard any ads say that, read any ads, etc.

The back of the box says "supported"... dummies.

Madpistol
12-10-07, 09:05 AM
This lawsuit probably won't even see the light of day, and if it does, it will be shortlived. Suing over missing pixels??? Get a life you dumb ****s. :thumbdwn:

Q
12-10-07, 09:07 AM
Doesn't have a

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/3169/vendalimbcj5.jpg

to stand on.

Destroy
12-10-07, 09:48 AM
Just playing devils advocate here...

So how far would you all let this go? What if they came out with 400p upscaled? Would it still be no big deal?

I somewhat agree with the lawsuit. Its like saying a car is suppose to come with 255/50-16 tires but it really only came with 225/40-16 tires but its ok cause they perform exactly the same.