View Full Version : Michael Vick sentenced to 23 months in prison
DiscipleDOC
12-10-07, 04:26 PM
Slaughtering livestock and dogfighting are two very different things. The comparisons you guys are drawing here are ludicrous.
You are right....comparing him to a child molester or a serial murderer is ludicrous. He's going to a federal pen. You don't get to go there unless you've done something really wrong. 2 years in a regular prison does not compare to a fed prison.
SeriTonin
12-10-07, 04:32 PM
Dogs have feelings, they felt every bit of pain they were given. I'm glad this piece of trash is going to rot in a federal prison for two years and never be allowed back into the NFL.
The dog thing is bad enough, what REALLY gets me is this mornin has ....had...more money than 90% of this country and he's still doing bullsh*t penny hustling maneuvers like dog fighting. Give me a break...being that brick dumb in my book is an automatic 2 year sentence.
And nooooo disciple (because you always play this card), NOT because he's black, simply for being that friggin ignorant and stupid...millionare playing dog fights in his back yard like it's still 1983 backwater, flordia or something...give me a break.
The man simply never grew up. And I don't think the repeated rapings awaiting him in jail are ever gonna make him the man he has yet to grow up to be.
His career is dead, serves him and anyone else that dumb, right.
DiscipleDOC
12-10-07, 04:48 PM
Dogs have feelings, they felt every bit of pain they were given. I'm glad this piece of trash is going to rot in a federal prison for two years and never be allowed back into the NFL.
The dog thing is bad enough, what REALLY gets me is this mornin has ....had...more money than 90% of this country and he's still doing bullsh*t penny hustling maneuvers like dog fighting. Give me a break...being that brick dumb in my book is an automatic 2 year sentence.
And nooooo disciple (because you always play this card), NOT because he's black, simply for being that friggin ignorant and stupid...millionare playing dog fights in his back yard like it's still 1983 backwater, flordia or something...give me a break.
The man simply never grew up. And I don't think the repeated rapings awaiting him in jail are ever gonna make him the man he has yet to grow up to be.
His career is dead, serves him and anyone else that dumb, right.
You're truly an idiot, aren't you?
When have I've ever played the "race card"?
I never said that he did not deserve his sentence....in fact, if the court was to hand out a 10 year sentence, then he would have gotten what he deserved.
All I'm saying is that he is not in the ranks of a serial killer, or a rapist. I could go to another level as to say that he's not in the ranks of an abortionist, but I won't go there in this forum...but you get my drift.
Zelda_fan
12-10-07, 06:43 PM
23 months is a bit harsh imho. Vick's a moron, no doubt, but 2 years in the pen is pretty harsh.
Zelda_fan
12-10-07, 06:47 PM
Yea...I have to wonder about a person that will get all worked up over a dog dying opposed a child dying. I do not like anyone being cruel to animals, but some of these people that get worked up over stuff like this really don't have their priorities straight.
tru that. People **** a brick over bow wow the pit bull, but abortion? Nahh. It's a woman's right.
Zelda_fan
12-10-07, 06:49 PM
umm... he tortured animals, I'm pretty sure he is more than capable of doing that to a human. I wouldn't trust him around anyone.
When I was a kid, I used to take Japanese beetles and grind their heads on the cement until they stopped moving. I guess that means I'm a ****ed up serial killer baby murderer.
LORD-eX-Bu
12-10-07, 07:00 PM
there is a difference between stepping on a bug and drowning an 80 lbs pit bull. How about torturing them or eletrocuting them to death? let alone making them fight each other to death or letting them intentionally kill smaller breeds just for the heck of it.
It takes a sick person to do something like that.
I guess using a little common sense is a little too much to ask of some of you.
Zelda_fan
12-10-07, 07:15 PM
like I said, he basically got what he deserved, but any more than 2 years would be way too harsh imho.
And it wasn't like he was hanging the dogs himself. He just funded it. He was like a crime boss of doggy fights.
there is a difference between stepping on a bug and drowning an 80 lbs pit bull. How about torturing them or eletrocuting them to death? let alone making them fight each other to death or letting them intentionally kill smaller breeds just for the heck of it.
It takes a sick person to do something like that.
I guess using a little common sense is a little too much to ask of some of you.
Yes it does, no disagreement there. Something being overlooked though, or underestimated, is what 2 years hard time might be like.
I never did time myself, but I did work with guys trying to re-adjust after serving 2-20 years. 23 months is a heck of a long bad stretch to some people. Vick "had it all" and stupidly blew it. He has plenty of hard times coming.
Slaughtering livestock and dogfighting are two very different things. The comparisons you guys are drawing here are ludicrous.
all depends on the culture/society you live in. other cultures are shocked at the way we treat cattle. hell, we farm them and breed them to die and some other cultures worship them.
it's all based on perspective.
Zelda_fan
12-10-07, 10:50 PM
Something being overlooked though, or underestimated, is what 2 years hard time might be like.
Yeah that's a good point. TBH, while most people here scoff at something like a 6 month sentence, I bet most of them wouldn't make it if they had to do it. I know if I had to do 6 months, I'd be ****in traumatized. If the amount of times I get hit on by some idiot queen is any indication, I'd be getting ass-raped 24/7.
Ninjaman09
12-11-07, 07:52 AM
And nooooo disciple (because you always play this card), NOT because he's black, simply for being that friggin ignorant and stupid...millionare playing dog fights in his back yard like it's still 1983 backwater, flordia or something...give me a break.
First of all, Doc has never played the race card in any post I've ever seen, so I don't know where you're getting that BS from, but it's a pretty disrespectful and messed up thing to say. Second, people don't deserve jail time for being "stupid and ignorant", they deserve it when they commit felonies, then lie about it repeatedly and act like they couldn't give a crap about the situation they're in. That is likely why Vick's sentence ended up the way it did. I feel no pity for this guy, regardless of the kind of prison he's going to. He ended up worse off than he could have because he decided to get stoned and lie AFTER he'd been arrested. And frankly being a dog lover myself, I despise with a passion any monster that could do what he did.
all depends on the culture/society you live in. other cultures are shocked at the way we treat cattle. hell, we farm them and breed them to die and some other cultures worship them.
it's all based on perspective.
Vick is an American who comes from American culture and who broke American laws. Perspective has nothing to do with this. Yes I know dogs are killed and sold as food in some countries. While personally I think that's gross, the intent is not malicious. You're going to tell me that electrocuting, hanging, and beating dogs to death because they weren't "tough enough" for fighting is a matter of perspective?
Yeah that's a good point. TBH, while most people here scoff at something like a 6 month sentence, I bet most of them wouldn't make it if they had to do it. I know if I had to do 6 months, I'd be ****in traumatized. If the amount of times I get hit on by some idiot queen is any indication, I'd be getting ass-raped 24/7.
Exactly - I don't think I would make it, especially after what some of the guys I helped rehab. told me. Vick is in for a bad time for sure. Just the fact he's a celeb alone means plenty of 2 & 3 time losers will want to "show him his place".
He could be in for a really long 2 years.
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