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MUYA
12-11-07, 04:10 AM
List here please!

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQzMSwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/Nvidia_8800_GTS_512MB_Review_-_The_Essence_of_128_Shader_Processors/5441.html

http://www.neoseeker.com/resourcelink.html?rlid=159318

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4664&Itemid=1

zerobeta
12-11-07, 04:34 AM
http://www.neoseeker.com/resourcelink.html?rlid=159318

CaptNKILL
12-11-07, 06:39 AM
All this card does is make me want a 9800GTX. :p

Revs
12-11-07, 07:13 AM
So let me get this straight, this year has seen the following 8800 cards...

8800 GTS 320 (96 SP)
8800 GTS 640 (96 SP)
8800 GTX 768
8800 Ultra 768
8800 GT 256
8800 GT 512
8800 GT 1024 (coming soon)
8800 GTS 640 (128 SP) (EDIT:112SP)
8800 GTS 512

... don't think i've missed any there!? :headexplode:

Plus a whole host of OC cards and other cooler variations. Talk about confusing. And to top it off, most of the newer card are VERY similar in performance. I still say they should have named these newer card 8900's.

nekrosoft13
12-11-07, 07:16 AM
List here please!

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQzMSwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

i hate hardocp reviews, why can't they use the same settings for every card when running test.

nekrosoft13
12-11-07, 07:17 AM
So let me get this straight, this year has seen the following 8800 cards...

8800 GTS 320 (96 SP)
8800 GTS 640 (96 SP)
8800 GTX 768
8800 Ultra 768
8800 GT 256
8800 GT 512
8800 GT 1024 (coming soon)
8800 GTS 640 (128 SP)
8800 GTS 512

... don't think i've missed any there!?

Plus a whole host of OC cards and other cooler variations. Talk about confusing. And to top it off, most of the newer card are VERY similar in performance. I still say they should have named these newer card 8900's.

agreed, they are creating way to much confusion.

MUYA
12-11-07, 07:34 AM
Vr-zone http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/Nvidia_8800_GTS_512MB_Review_-_The_Essence_of_128_Shader_Processors/5441.html

MUYA
12-11-07, 07:38 AM
Fudzilla = http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4664&Itemid=1

911medic
12-11-07, 07:39 AM
So let me get this straight, this year has seen the following 8800 cards...

8800 GTS 320 (96 SP)
8800 GTS 640 (96 SP)
8800 GTX 768
8800 Ultra 768
8800 GT 256
8800 GT 512
8800 GT 1024 (coming soon)
8800 GTS 640 (128 SP)
8800 GTS 512

... don't think i've missed any there!? :headexplode:

Plus a whole host of OC cards and other cooler variations. Talk about confusing. And to top it off, most of the newer card are VERY similar in performance. I still say they should have named these newer card 8900's.
The 128sp version of the GTS is only a 512MB part, not 640MB, AFAIK. The only way to differentiate the new 65nm GTS compared to the older 90nm GTS at retail if not specified is by looking at the model name; if it specifies 512MB of memory it is the new 65nm GTS. The previous 90nm GTS uses 320 MB and 640 MB of memory due to its memory bus configuration. The new 65nm GTS uses a 256-bit memory bus, and is configured with 512MB of memory. So if you see a GTS with 512MB of memory it is the new 65nm GTS, and if you see one with 320MB or 640MB it is the older 90nm GTS. (http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQzMSwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==)

Airbrushkid
12-11-07, 08:12 AM
It doesn't seem like it is worth buying.

Bman212121
12-11-07, 08:15 AM
The 128sp version of the GTS is only a 512MB part, not 640MB, AFAIK.

Well, the 640MB card also comes in a 112 shader part I think.

Revs
12-11-07, 08:20 AM
This is exactly my point. Totally confusing.

My mistake, it is 112SP but it's also 640mb still on the G80 GPU. I assume it's still got the higher memory bus too.

BioHazZarD
12-11-07, 08:53 AM
Crysis is still unplayable on such new card with medium settings even on a high setting rofl.

Bman212121
12-11-07, 08:57 AM
Well, I think that the 8800GTS isn't that great of a buy at all. It doesn't really have any room to stand on because it is only a little faster than an 8800GT, but it costs over $100 more. If you are looking for high res performance then you'll still want a GTX because the 8800GTS G92 has less memory and a narrower bus. I can't imagine they will sell too many of these at their current price.

Niot
12-11-07, 10:59 AM
The HUGE problem with these tests.

WHY ARE SO MANY ON 0XAA OR VERY LOW AA AND VERY LOW AF? WHY DID THEY KEEP TESTING GAMES IN DX9 MODE FOR THE GAMES THAT HAS DX10? WHY DID THEY KEEP USING 0 AA AND AF FOR 3DMARK? WHY ARE OLD ASS GAMES LIKE FEAR AND 3DMARK 2003 USED TO COMPARE THE CARDS? SM2? WHY NOT TRY TO SEE WHICH CARD PLAYS HALFLIFE 1 THE BEST?

WHY DID THEY RUN CRYSIS AT DX10, BUT AT MEDIUM DETAILS? AND MANY USES 0 AA?

ARE THESE TESTS SO DOCTORED TO SHOW THE CARD THAT THE PREFER TO BE THE BEST?

mythy
12-11-07, 11:20 AM
I'm starting to wonder about you...


The only review that was crap was [H] just like most of there reviews the rest were fine :p

shabby
12-11-07, 11:28 AM
It doesn't seem like it is worth buying.

If you can get a 8800gt for $250 then no its not, i was about to return my gt and upgrade to the gts but when i saw the price i decided to keep the gt.

Revs
12-11-07, 11:34 AM
If you can get a 8800gt for $250 then no its not, i was about to return my gt and upgrade to the gts but when i saw the price i decided to keep the gt.

Wise choice :)

Niot
12-11-07, 11:51 AM
I'm starting to wonder about you...


The only review that was crap was [H] just like most of there reviews the rest were fine :p
If you can look more closely then you wouldn't have said that.

mythy
12-11-07, 12:03 PM
WHY ARE SO MANY ON 0XAA OR VERY LOW AA AND VERY LOW AF?

512MB onboard means limited texture space. AA and or AF at high ress kills these cards and most users don't need it at high resolutions.



WHY DID THEY KEEP TESTING GAMES IN DX9 MODE FOR THE GAMES THAT HAS DX10?

DX9 is more consistent with drivers or at leas thats my guess




WHY DID THEY KEEP USING 0 AA AND AF FOR 3DMARK?

uhh 3Dmark should always be ran at defaults for user comparison


WHY ARE OLD ASS GAMES LIKE FEAR AND 3DMARK 2003 USED TO COMPARE THE CARDS? SM2?

Becasue they help show you how GPU's are scaling over time and there classic benchmarks that are widely used



WHY NOT TRY TO SEE WHICH CARD PLAYS HALFLIFE 1 THE BEST?

That would be cool!



WHY DID THEY RUN CRYSIS AT DX10, BUT AT MEDIUM DETAILS? AND MANY USES 0 AA?

Who would want to use AA in crysis?!?!?




ARE THESE TESTS SO DOCTORED TO SHOW THE CARD THAT THE PREFER TO BE THE BEST?

Vanzagar
12-11-07, 01:07 PM
All this card does is make me want a 9800GTX. :p

+1

Looks like Feb though, hope it comes sooner...:(

Niot
12-11-07, 01:23 PM
512MB onboard means limited texture space. AA and or AF at high ress kills these cards and most users don't need it at high resolutions.

Argumentum ad populum.





DX9 is more consistent with drivers or at leas thats my guess
But the current generation of cards are meant for DX10, doing DX9 just doesn't do them justice. A lot of older games can not even run with the 8800, just like with the 6800s back then. So to play them we have to downgrade to a lower card. By this logic the newer cards are worse because they can't even run the old games (many not that old)





uhh 3Dmark should always be ran at defaults for user comparison
Argumentum ad populum again, the users are wrong. 3D mark should be ran at max details to test every capability of the cards. And to minimize the CPU dependency of the results.



Becasue they help show you how GPU's are scaling over time and there classic benchmarks that are widely used
The cards are to play games, not run benchmarks only. The old SM2 games aren't generally a problem for any card today. So it is pointless to say this card gets 100FPS and that other one gets 120FPS.



That would be cool!


Nothing to say about that, perhaps it's just your way of being humorous?




Who would want to use AA in crysis?!?!?
Just because people don't use it doesn't mean that it shouldn't be used to test the limits of the cards.

These tests are just like saying that an accountant can add and multiply in their head while mathematicians can't. They do not test the subjects throughly. The old Radeon X800s scores higher in 3dMark 05 than the 6800s, but they are raw horsepower, and the benchmark does not penalize the X800s enough for skipping the SM3 tests. This is the same situation here.

Niot
12-11-07, 01:24 PM
+1

Looks like Feb though, hope it comes sooner...:(
My point exactly, I'm tired of Nvidia milking these old techs for years. This monopoly has got to end. If there is decent competition Nvidia wouldn't dare to do that.

DHP
12-11-07, 03:04 PM
I have 2 MSI 8800GTS's OC coming my way. Is a 620W Enermax Liberty enough for these babies @ SLi? :D

Brent
12-11-07, 03:55 PM
I'm starting to wonder about you...


The only review that was crap was [H] just like most of there reviews the rest were fine :p

If you could kindly email me and elaborate on what you think is "crap" about it, I will entertain any suggestions for improvement.