Equipping pistol reveals hidden uber vegetation AA!! WTF?????

[Nanosuitguy]

Lolololol! Just played crysis a few moments ago and discovered something very rare. When i equipped the pistol i somehow got alot of AA on the palm tree leaves.. WTF? Settings i used was Gaco's 1.01 tweak in 1280x1024 with 4xAA enabled. Sure the 4xAA made the tree trunks, and every other objecs like cars, buildings and stuff smooth, but not the vegetation as we know. However when equipping the pistol it looked like i had working AA on the vegetation. Here is some pics showing it all;

http://hugeup.com/x/12172007/c1scar.jpg - With normal weapon
http://hugeup.com/x/12172007/c1pistol.jpg - With pistol

http://hugeup.com/x/12172007/c3scar.jpg - With normal weapon
http://hugeup.com/x/12172007/c3pistol.jpg - With pistol

http://hugeup.com/x/12172007/c3ak.jpg - With normal weapon
http://hugeup.com/x/12172007/c3pistols.jpg - With pistols


Also uploaded a 5sec 1280x1024 resolution movie showing this in action, download from rapidshare;
http://rapidshare.com/files/77353091/Crysis_2007-12-18_07-30-08-53.avi.html

What in the love of god is this all about? i was like wtf i cant trust my eyes...
Someone need to try this to see if its just me, or if its a new hidden AA revealed. :S

:captnkill:

[agentkay]

I think "r_useEdgeAA = 1" might have done this. ;) I've done some tests with this setting the other day it was automatically disabled once "real" AA was enabled. I'm guessing with Gaco's cfg it forces EdgeAA even when you use real AA but causes this strange effect with the weapon switch.

Edit: Nevermind, I couldn't reproduce it no matter what EdgeAA setting I've tried and switching the weapons had no effect either.

[m3dude]

post a comparison screen with fraps on?

nah agent thats definitely not r_useedgeaa.

[Nanosuitguy]

post a comparison screen with fraps on?

nah agent thats definitely not r_useedgeaa.

I can confirm this is NOT edgeAA, i know how edgeAA looks and this looks like pure AA... m3, theres no need to take them with fraps on, i just checked again and it does cost about 3 - 5 fps lol... Something is really weird here.

Edit, it works on cryteks island map too. By the way, i am running the demo. Maybe its because of that?


Uploaded a 5 second long 1280x1024 resolution movie showing this in action, only downside is that its nearly 90mb big... But that wouldn't be any problem. Uploaded on rapidshare;

http://rapidshare.com/files/77353091/Crysis_2007-12-18_07-30-08-53.avi.html

[m3dude]

5 to 7 fps from what amount? what was ur before and after fps? just post 2 comparison shots with fraps. it looks exactly like supersampling transparency aa btw. im almost sure thats exactly what it is. either that or its a mildly downsized pic. but its 1 of the 2

[Nanosuitguy]

5 to 7 fps from what amount? what was ur before and after fps? just post 2 comparison shots with fraps. it looks exactly like supersampling transparency aa btw. im almost sure thats exactly what it is. either that or its a mildly downsized pic. but its 1 of the 2

Nothing is downsized you moron, watch the movie... i had 27 fps without the pistol and 23 fps with it.. I have no supersample settings set in the nvidia control panel...

Btw, these following pics where taken at 1920x1440 and was downsized normally to 1280x960 witch is my current resolution. No editor or e_screenshot 1 trick here;

Pure ingame shots close to those real downsized ones my wallpapers has;

http://hugeup.com/x/12182007/crazyAA2.jpg


http://hugeup.com/x/12182007/crazyAA1.jpg


http://hugeup.com/x/12182007/crazyAA3.jpg



So i think you where wrong after all m3, it IS possible to accive the same look as in my wallpapers, so they are basically ingame. My new invented "pistolAA" as i wanna call it really takes crysis graphics to a new level! :captnkill:

(nana2)

[m3dude]

no, your pistol aa is simply you downsizing the pic or adding ss transparency aa. u can sit here and make retarded posts all u want. anyone with half a brain knows you are full of ****. and downsizing a pic from 1920x1440 to 1280x960 is going to add quite a bit of full on supersample aa. so again not representative of ingame.

[Nanosuitguy]

no, your pistol aa is simply you downsizing the pic or adding ss transparency aa. u can sit here and make retarded posts all u want. anyone with half a brain knows you are full of ****. and downsizing a pic from 1920x1440 to 1280x960 is going to add quite a bit of full on supersample aa. so again not representative of ingame.

Haha you little fag, youre so damn stupid.. so very damn stupid. Are you 10 years old or what? WATCH THE DAMN MOVIE! and you will see this is not a lie. When i run the game at 1920x1440 IT AUTOMATICALLY RESIZE THE SCENE TO 1280x960 you fking stupid pice of *****... So when raising the resolution ingame makes everything more detailed and less jaggied , thats one of the most basic things when it comes to gaming and something everyone is supposed to know.. Lol youre so damn stupid kid so i will have to teach you it then;

Resolution: This setting allows you to select the resolution of the game image, measured in pixels wide by pixels high. The higher the resolution, the more detailed the image on screen, and also the less jagged lines there will be, but the lower your performance.

Is that so hard to understand?

[einstein_314]

Haha you little fag, youre so damn stupid.. so very damn stupid. Are you 10 years old or what? WATCH THE DAMN MOVIE! and you will see this is not a lie. When i run the game at 1920x1440 IT AUTOMATICALLY RESIZE THE SCENE TO 1280x960 you fking stupid pice of *****... So when raising the resolution ingame makes everything more detailed and less jaggied , thats one of the most basic things when it comes to gaming and something everyone is supposed to know.. Lol youre so damn stupid kid so i will have to teach you it then;

Resolution: This setting allows you to select the resolution of the game image, measured in pixels wide by pixels high. The higher the resolution, the more detailed the image on screen, and also the less jagged lines there will be, but the lower your performance.

Is that so hard to understand?
You need to chill dude.

EDIT: And what the crap are you talking about. Why does it automatically resize the to 1280x960... from 1920x1440....? Call me an idiot..but I don't understand.

[m3dude]

it will automatically resize the the scene to 1280x960? loooool. this kid is completely clueless. this has got to be slinrob or something. i mean does he actually expect people to believe that him simply equipping the pistol somehow activates a magic form of aa that somehow avoids any big performance hit? that theres some bug in the code that only hes seen that somehow allows the g80 to perform nearly free supersample quality aa? that hes figured out something that the people at crytek and nvidia working on this game/g80 drivers for years and years havent?

[m3dude]

You need to chill dude.

EDIT: And what the crap are you talking about. Why does it automatically resize the to 1280x960... from 1920x1440....? Call me an idiot..but I don't understand.

theres nothing to understand, even he doesnt know wtf hes talking about. he doesnt make a bit of sense

[Nanosuitguy]

You two dont understand right?


Resolution

Display resolution, often simply called Resolution, refers to the total amount of visual information on a display screen. In computer graphics, the smallest unit of graphical information is called a Pixel - a small dot with a particular color and brightness. Every computer image on your screen is a pixellated sample of the original 3D information contained in your graphics card, because that is how it winds up being displayed on a monitor. When you change the resolution in a game, you are telling the game to provide more or less pixels, and hence more or less samples of that original information for your system to process and display on screen. In general the higher the resolution, the clearer and better the image will look, but the more effort this will take for your system to draw all this information, resulting in lower FPS.

The resolution setting in a game or in Windows tells you precisely how many pixels are used to display an image. Resolution is typically shown in pixel width x pixel height format. So a game running at '1280x1024' resolution for example means there are 1,280 x 1,024 = 1,310,720 pixels in total on the screen making up the image. This value can also be expressed in Megapixels (millions of pixels), which in this example would be around 1.3 megapixels. The human eye takes all these pixels and at a reasonable distance perceives them as a single smooth image, much like looking at an image in a newspaper from a distance as opposed to close up.


You still dont get it? When playing on a higher resolution eveything gets more detailed and less jaggied. You must have a brain damage or something. How can 1920x1440 fit on my 19 inch screen? It can technically but not practically because my monitor is not big enough, when taking a screenshot in 1920x1440 the res will be the same, but it wont be that big when running on my screen. Resolution changs to 1280x960 for the visual on the monitor it gets downsized, compressed in a way, so you dont think 1920x1440 will look better than 1280x960? Running in 1920x1440 will have the same effect on my screen as taking a 1920x1440 image and downsize it to 1280x960. I.e will look smoother, more detailed and less jaggied then if running directly on 1280x960. Einsten is the only one dumb enough to agree with you. Stop making a damn fool out of yourself...

[m3dude]

yeah buddy i know what resolution is. that doesnt rly relate to any of your ridiculous pistol aa claims, and has nothing to do with u claiming your monitor automatically downsizes it to 1280x960(LOL@that).

[Nanosuitguy]

yeah buddy i know what resolution is. that doesnt rly relate to any of your ridiculous pistol aa claims, and has nothing to do with u claiming your monitor automatically downsizes it to 1280x960(LOL@that).

LOL@you, because it does it in a kind of way, but youre to dumb to understand that. What i try to say here is that on my monitor it looks like the downsized picture that was downsized from 1920x to 1280x. Its like speaking to a 3 year old kid. This is a damn waste of my time. I told you to watch the movie witch shows this, but youre still bitching about me beeing a liar...

[einstein_314]

You two dont understand right?


Resolution

Display resolution, often simply called Resolution, refers to the total amount of visual information on a display screen. In computer graphics, the smallest unit of graphical information is called a Pixel - a small dot with a particular color and brightness. Every computer image on your screen is a pixellated sample of the original 3D information contained in your graphics card, because that is how it winds up being displayed on a monitor. When you change the resolution in a game, you are telling the game to provide more or less pixels, and hence more or less samples of that original information for your system to process and display on screen. In general the higher the resolution, the clearer and better the image will look, but the more effort this will take for your system to draw all this information, resulting in lower FPS.

The resolution setting in a game or in Windows tells you precisely how many pixels are used to display an image. Resolution is typically shown in pixel width x pixel height format. So a game running at '1280x1024' resolution for example means there are 1,280 x 1,024 = 1,310,720 pixels in total on the screen making up the image. This value can also be expressed in Megapixels (millions of pixels), which in this example would be around 1.3 megapixels. The human eye takes all these pixels and at a reasonable distance perceives them as a single smooth image, much like looking at an image in a newspaper from a distance as opposed to close up.


You still dont get it? When playing on a higher resolution eveything gets more detailed and less jaggied. You must have a brain damage or something. How can 1920x1440 fit on my 19 inch screen? It can technically but not practically because my monitor is not big enough, when taking a screenshot in 1920x1440 the res will be the same, but it wont be that big when running on my screen. Resolution changs to 1280x960 for the visual on the monitor it gets downsized, compressed in a way, so you dont think 1920x1440 will look better than 1280x960? Running in 1920x1440 will have the same effect on my screen as taking a 1920x1440 image and downsize it to 1280x960. I.e will look smoother, more detailed and less jaggied then if running directly on 1280x960. Einsten is the only one dumb enough to agree with you. Stop making a damn fool out of yourself...
It is you who is the idiot. You're making no sense. Lets see if I'm getting this right. You think that you have Crysis running at 1920x1440. So it renders it at that and then downsizes it and sends it to your monitor to display at 1280x960? That isn't how things work. Whatever is being displayed on your monitor is what is being rendered. There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Do you have an LCD? If so, you shouldn't be able to set the resolution above it's native res (1280x960?).

[Tr1cK]

(nana2)
In before the lock.

[m3dude]

he probably has a crt and doesnt know enough about how they work. he thinks the monitor is automatically downsizing games to 1 standard resolution(in this case 1280x960). hes pretty ignorant.

[agentkay]

Just enter "con_restricted 0" in the console and press "F12" and it will make screenshots of the actual resolution that you run the game at and adds them to the "My Document/Games/Crysis" folder.

Can you also post a screenshot of your current driver control panel (which version? btw) and I'm guessing thats under Vista DX9. I'll try to reproduce this but I can't understand how an ingame weapon change would affect the 3D renderer.

[LORD-eX-Bu]

this thread :headexplode:

[m3dude]

Just enter "con_restricted 0" in the console and press "F12" and it will make screenshots of the actual resolution that you run the game at and adds them to the "My Document/Games/Crysis" folder.

Can you also post a screenshot of your current driver control panel (which version? btw) and I'm guessing thats under Vista DX9. I'll try to reproduce this but I can't understand how an ingame weapon change would affect the 3D renderer.

not only affect the 3d renderer, but somehow enable this near supersample quality level of alpha texture aa while not dropping performance much at all.

[brady]

This thread is funny.

[mumstheword]

Happy Hanukkah everyone.

[Technoholic]

(nana2)
In before the lock.
+1 (nana2)

[Nanosuitguy]

It is you who is the idiot. You're making no sense. Lets see if I'm getting this right. You think that you have Crysis running at 1920x1440. So it renders it at that and then downsizes it and sends it to your monitor to display at 1280x960? That isn't how things work. Whatever is being displayed on your monitor is what is being rendered. There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Do you have an LCD? If so, you shouldn't be able to set the resolution above it's native res (1280x960?).

If you learn to read you stupid pig you would have seen i said it does it in a kind of way. It doesn't technically change the resolution, it will only look like that when comparing to a picture...

he probably has a crt and doesnt know enough about how they work. he thinks the monitor is automatically downsizing games to 1 standard resolution(in this case 1280x960). hes pretty ignorant.

i have a crt yes... you dont read either. Read my post of what i wrote to einsten and you see what i mean. But this will be my last reply to you. Ive been patient but enough is enough! I dont wanna waste more time on idiots like you. Ive hear pretty many here have put you on the ignore list, so i think i will follow their example...


In before the lock.
Why would we lock this thread? A better thing would be to ban m3 so this pointless discussion can end... He doesn't understand what i mean anyway.. just confusing everything up. This is not what this thread is about, lets stay OT!

[Feyy]

Settings i used was Gaco's 1.01 tweak in 1280x1024 with 4xAA enabled.

Care to share the config? Provide link perhaps.

nvm, found it: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1452125&postcount=60