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dxx
12-22-07, 12:54 PM
Any other cynics here guessing that the delay is deliberate, and intended so that the patch comes out at roughly the same time as the new line of nVidia cards, biasing comparisons between the old and the new line of cards?

agentkay
12-22-07, 02:04 PM
No it's a lot simpler:

Smaller development team + holidays + two patches + SDK + Linux server = Delay

Sure it sucks and Alex shouldn't have mentioned something like "it will be two weeks until the patch" but least they are not like Valve where delays equal a year or 3Drealms ten years. :lol:

ASUSEN7900GTX
12-22-07, 03:00 PM
Does anyone still play Crysis?

*Runs away!*

come back ya little wabbit i gotta wabbit to spank...*chases*:D

well nothing now days seems to be coming out on time so guess game devs. canīt the clock or they fart and jerk off too much instead of doing what teyīre supposed to lay of pron and candy and do patches and games instead.

Crytek is whiony lameass devs. that canīt keep dates deadlines or promises iīm supprised they arenīt out of buisness yet as they canīt do much right. That goes for the most Devs. That canīt keep deadlines such as a certain hard ass guy that is been delayed for ever..*hint* :D

Bokishi
12-22-07, 03:56 PM
I'm not touching Crysis anymore until the patch comes out

dxx
12-22-07, 04:01 PM
No it's a lot simpler:

Smaller development team + holidays + two patches + SDK + Linux server = Delay

Sure it sucks and Alex shouldn't have mentioned something like "it will be two weeks until the patch" but least they are not like Valve where delays equal a year or 3Drealms ten years. :lol:

Also + huge wads of cash from Intel and nVidia, companies that both advertise within the game and use Crysis to sell their hardware in online adverts. Are they going to be happy with Crytek boosting performance on their old lines of hardware, when that same boost could be applied to the new hardware to make it seem that bit faster than before? Take note especially of the fact that Crysis is seen by The Industry as being the current Game Of The Future, meaning that any hardware capable of running Crysis smoothly is, effectively, future-proof.

$n][pErMan
12-22-07, 04:28 PM
Take note especially of the fact that Crysis is seen by The Industry as being the current Game Of The Future, meaning that any hardware capable of running Crysis smoothly is, effectively, future-proof.
Agreed.... when the next line of GPU's come out one of the first things I will be looking at before I buy is benchmarks in Crysis :) If it can't run it on the highest settings smooth I will simply pass.

agentkay
12-22-07, 05:40 PM
Also + huge wads of cash from Intel and nVidia, companies that both advertise within the game and use Crysis to sell their hardware in online adverts. Are they going to be happy with Crytek boosting performance on their old lines of hardware, when that same boost could be applied to the new hardware to make it seem that bit faster than before? Take note especially of the fact that Crysis is seen by The Industry as being the current Game Of The Future, meaning that any hardware capable of running Crysis smoothly is, effectively, future-proof.

In general I don't believe into conspiracy theories but your point isn't a bad one because the (computer) industry always took bigger jumps forward once a game or engine has been released that was "ahead of its time". The results were always faster hardware and a cheaper price and we already saw that with the release of cards like the 8800GT, 3850, 3870 etc., all excellent cards with impressive price/performance ratios.

At the same time you have to remember what Crytek did with FarCry for instance with the HDR engine upgrade (the first "high precision" HDR game IIRC) and they have promised to give Crysis a similar visual upgrade with more advanced shaders and higher settings ("Ultra High" settings).

These "Ultra High" settings could very well be reserved for the "next generation" of video cards (Nvidia D9E etc.) and if they do it this way there actually speaks nothing against boosting performance on current hardware ("Very High" or lower settings) because the new cards would get their "exclusive" visual upgrade just like current cards would get their performance enhancements at lower settings.

The real question to me is actually "how" they want to increase performance because in general you need to decrease image quality IF there isn't enough "untouched" performance left in the engine. I do think there is room for improvement left with multi-card solutions (10-20% gain w/o image quality decrease should be possible) but when it comes to single cards I'm not that optimistic other than lowering quality of certain effects or move some to other settings. Although a visual decrease would speak against what Crytek is about (pushing visuals to the limit even if it hurts) so I would be disappointed by that move.

ASUSEN7900GTX
12-22-07, 06:48 PM
i think Crytek can boost single card performance W/O image loss aas they could tweak the shaders and other stuff and still maintain the IQ and get out some FPS even on very high (XP) and DX10 thereīs gotta be something for DX10 to boost for single cards

or am i totally wrong here i feel there is something in Crysis and itīs engine with a major performance increase

v3rninater
12-22-07, 07:58 PM
Well, I think there's no stupid conspiracy. I just want people to know that Far Cry (crytek's previous game) took FOREVER to get patches out. Just FYI, don't expect the same company to be any different.

noko
12-22-07, 08:17 PM
I wonder if Crytek is waiting for vista SP1 to come out before patch is released? Isn't DX10.1 surpose to come with SP1 also?

|JuiceZ|
12-22-07, 08:28 PM
After the first two weeks passed after the retail release, the delay was pretty obvious, glad they finally admitted it though.

jAkUp
12-23-07, 12:31 AM
There is no conspiracy when it comes to SLI and DX10, the game definitely has issues with DX10 and SLI, the patch should improve this.

Also yes DX10.1 will come with SP1 but I doubt Crysis will take any advantage of it considering that NV's current lineup do not support DX10.1.

noko
12-23-07, 04:57 PM
Just that 10.1 may bring it's own share of bugs that Crytek might want to address in one patch vice several.

This game is running like crap for me now, carrier outside scene is a slide show, I am now continuesouly crashing, game not responding, lost of video etc.. Both in DX9 and DX10 using Nvidia's greatest and latest. I actually made it inside to the admiral, it crashed and didn't save that point. Game went from very fun to retarded real quick. To wait for a patch this long on such a bloched release is not good.

ASUSEN7900GTX
12-24-07, 06:46 AM
i donīt think 9800 series is enough for this game unless some serious patches are made otherwise it might be one of those games, that no matter how bad ass rig you have it just wonīt run smooth i donīt know but so many games are rushed out and then they run like crap. now thanks to Crysis tweak abilities one can have the game look wonderful and run it on some less Hardware i mean my rig aint state of the art but it does the job rater well.


But crysis will be a game so hard it takes some serious power to be playable with full AA AF on and ultra details, so maybe the GF serie after 9xxx might be able to push Crysis

XxDeadlyxX
12-24-07, 07:31 AM
I think part of the problem was that before DX10 came out there were vids of MS reps on Gamespot saying DX10 was "5 times faster than DX9" and stuff... maybe it is when it comes to effects done in SM4.0 compared to 3.0, however to the end user all those comments are very misleading.

DX10 is taking a long time to mature partly because it probably took Nvidia/ATI a long time to work out how to get good performance out of Vista's new VDDM driver model (formerly WGF 2.0)... if DX10 were just another DX9 API without any of the new baggage I think things would be quite different now.

Like CoJ... runs great in DX9 but even try to run it in DX10 and 15fps here we go :rolleyes:

ALien8ed
12-24-07, 08:25 AM
Christmas is very near and everyone is preparing their last gifts, and so does the whole Crytek Development Staff as well. Even though the patch and the SDK are delayed until next year, we still have a little present for our community.

Further below you can find a small teaser of what we have planned for you. The release is scheduled for Christmas Eve, so it's only a few more hours to wait.

Looks like a new map(s).

http://www.crymod.com/thread.php?threadid=14266&sid=c6f470957e23fdfff5b17802c8d0d7fd

Jonelo
12-24-07, 08:54 AM
Looks like a new map(s).

http://www.crymod.com/thread.php?threadid=14266&sid=c6f470957e23fdfff5b17802c8d0d7fd

No only looks , are five new maps ;) , for download now

http://www.crymod.com/filebase.php?fileid=565&lim=0

ASUSEN7900GTX
12-24-07, 09:33 AM
are these maps for MP only or Sp as well?