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Kain
04-20-03, 11:56 AM
Disregarding price, which processor would you take?

sonyman
04-20-03, 02:54 PM
The memory bandwith, and overall performance on the new Pentium 4s, just plain dominates over all the current Athlons.

Scott

Kain
04-20-03, 07:01 PM
Only 5 votes? Comon! :p

StealthHawk
04-20-03, 09:26 PM
the new P4's are without a doubt the current performance kings.

LORD-eX-Bu
04-21-03, 02:27 AM
yeah, but the 800 Mhz FSB P4s got delayed a bit cuz Intel is checkin' em' over and doin' further quality control and testing, thats quality my friends, quality and devotion:D

Kain
04-21-03, 02:29 AM
When will the 800MHz system bus processors be available?

SnakeEyes
04-21-03, 10:43 AM
I live and breathe AMD, because of the pricing and availability. That said, disregarding price and availability, I'd most likely go with the P4, so that's what I voted.

(Now, if it were an AMD at 3GHz vs the P4 without pricing / cooling considerations, I'd be swinging back to AMD again. :p)

Kain
04-21-03, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by SnakeEyes
I live and breathe AMD, because of the pricing and availability. That said, disregarding price and availability, I'd most likely go with the P4, so that's what I voted.

(Now, if it were an AMD at 3GHz vs the P4 without pricing / cooling considerations, I'd be swinging back to AMD again. :p) But the problem is that when AMD is at 3GHz, Intel will be at 5GHz. :p

-=DVS=-
04-25-03, 04:30 AM
Originally posted by Kain
But the problem is that when AMD is at 3GHz, Intel will be at 5GHz. :p

Megaherz doesn't mean that much , AMD Athlons do more operations per clock cycle then Pentium 4 you know , why do you think 2ghz AMD is as fast as 2.5ghz Pentium 4 :D

Offcourse 5Ghz P4 would beat AthlonXp at 3Ghz that is full 2Ghz advantage .

borntosoul
04-26-03, 12:43 AM
i dont know what your trying to say it dosnt matter what mhz it is , intels top cpu vs amd top cpu and then compare price/performance thats about it

Fotis
04-26-03, 03:34 PM
Pentium4 3Ghz coupled with a canterwood or springdale mobo is the way to go.
Lets not forget that 875P(canterwood) and 865P(springdale) mobos will also support the first Prescott cpus while socket A probably stops with athlon XP 3200+.

netviper13
04-26-03, 03:40 PM
Then again Intel has gone through 3 different sockets while AMD has stuck with A the whole time. I would assume the Hammer sockets will stick around for a while.

Fotis
04-26-03, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by netviper13
Then again Intel has gone through 3 different sockets while AMD has stuck with A the whole time. I would assume the Hammer sockets will stick around for a while.
Agreed,but Athlon 64 is due out this fall and Kain obviously wants to buy now.

netviper13
04-26-03, 03:46 PM
True. If he's buying now then the two Intel chipsets are more future proof.

Cotita
04-26-03, 04:08 PM
I think this poll is unfair, price/performance is the main advantage of AMD over intel.

The P4 is faster overall but also quite expensive.

CaptNKILL
04-26-03, 04:16 PM
Id never pay for a 3Ghz P4 with 800Mhz bus, but since you said "disregarding price", I had to pick it. The P4 with 800mhz BUS is just plain faster than the 3000+.

But if I actually had to *buy* one, Id DEFFINITLY go with the 3000+. It costs a lot less than the P4.

EDIT: Here are the prices:

Pentium 4 3Ghz with 800Mhz BUS (Retail) = $530

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?catalog=343&DEPA=1&submit=property&mfrcode=0&propertycode=&propertycodevalue=4186,4720

Athlon XP 3000+ (Retail)= $336

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?catalog=343&DEPA=1&submit=property&mfrcode=0&propertycode=&propertycodevalue=4159,4573

StealthHawk
04-26-03, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by Cotita
I think this poll is unfair, price/performance is the main advantage of AMD over intel.

The P4 is faster overall but also quite expensive.

It's not unfair.

Most people agree that Intel has the performance lead, but the question is whether its lead is worth the extra money.

And of course not everyone accepts that Intel is faster than AMD.

borntosoul
04-26-03, 10:58 PM
the high end cpu's from intel and amd were the same price about a week ago in australia. amd 3000+ cpu fell from au$1100 to just au$650! the p4 is still at au$1100, i hear that intel is going to drop its prices big time around mid to late may

Cotita
04-27-03, 05:55 AM
Originally posted by StealthHawk
It's not unfair.

Most people agree that Intel has the performance lead, but the question is whether its lead is worth the extra money.

And of course not everyone accepts that Intel is faster than AMD.

Of course it is unfair, did you take the time to read the first post?

Kain: Disregarding price, which processor would you take?

If money is no object of course the P4 is a better choice, but for its price the athlon is a much better deal.

Albatron
04-27-03, 02:34 PM
Im the BIGGEST AMDŽ fan in these furoms thats for sure.. but over the two cpu's i would go for the 3ghz p4 .. due to the fact coz its got a 200*4mhz fsb.. nothing else

StealthHawk
04-28-03, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by Cotita
Of course it is unfair, did you take the time to read the first post?



If money is no object of course the P4 is a better choice, but for its price the athlon is a much better deal.

As I already said, some people refuse to acknowledge that a fully loaded P4 is faster than an Athlon.

And that has been proven in the past in these forums by several people.

The sentiment that the question is loaded and unfair is ludicrous. That the question was even asked at all implies to me that Kain doesn't know the answer, or else what would be the point of asking it in the first place?

Albatron
04-29-03, 02:26 AM
lol. dude . amd @ 3ghz will eat that but.. oh well .. intel is gay

Kruno
04-29-03, 02:30 AM
I wonder how the new Opteron's will take on the Canterwoods.

borntosoul
04-29-03, 03:33 AM
well the p4 is the king for the moment and i cant see amd catching up any time soon, i currently own an amd and have been more than happy with it!

StealthHawk
04-29-03, 05:13 AM
Originally posted by K.I.L.E.R
I wonder how the new Opteron's will take on the Canterwoods.

Canterwood is a motherboard chipset....and if I'm not mistaken it not only supports the 800MHz FSB Northwoods, but supposedly it will support Prescott.