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Zapablast05
01-02-08, 06:15 AM
I wanna know what the difference between the two are? It's just the name reversed..Which is better?

nekrosoft13
01-02-08, 07:15 AM
Divx is shareware, while decoder is free, you have to pay to encode anything. Unless you use one of the popular pirated codec packs.

Xvid is created in mind to be totally free, so people won't have to pay to encode video.

Zapablast05
01-02-08, 07:37 AM
So it's both the same stuff? Is it possible to convert files to play back as HD on those programs?

nekrosoft13
01-02-08, 08:53 AM
So it's both the same stuff? Is it possible to convert files to play back as HD on those programs?

Not sure if i understand the question correctly.

But Divx will play Xvid and Divx files, and vise versa.

you want HD in divx or xvid? well you coud do that, but its not really recomended. Divx/Xvid just like mpeg2 are rather old codecs.

If you want to encode stuff in HD, then MKV container using H264/AVC or WMV container using WVC1 is the way to go.

Zapablast05
01-02-08, 09:12 AM
Not sure if i understand the question correctly.

Like, if I were to download a regular DVD or something, and I want to burn it to a CD as an HDDVD, would DivX or XviD do that?

nekrosoft13
01-02-08, 09:20 AM
:|

you lost me

1) i will not help with piracy, downloading DVDs

2) HD-DVD content on CD? umm what?

3) Divx can't match HD-DVD quality (HD-DVD uses AVC and VC1 mostly)

sytaylor
01-02-08, 09:44 AM
Like, if I were to download a regular DVD or something, and I want to burn it to a CD as an HDDVD, would DivX or XviD do that?

You have to realise file size differences. If you had legal HD content that you wished to burn, you'd need a very expensive HD-DVD burner or Bluray burner. IMO the products are still too young and need time. Converting DVD or HD-DVD to either xvid or divx will result in a quality reduction as well as file size. So I wouldn't recommend it.

You can make an XVID/DIVX into a DVD and vice versa. There are plenty of guides on google how to do that.

nekrosoft13
01-02-08, 09:47 AM
If you had legal HD content that you wished to burn, you'd need a very expensive HD-DVD burner or Bluray burner.

there still is no HD-DVD burner (that you can buy*), but HD-DVD content can be burned on BD.

I have the LG GGW-H20L, excellent drive, and at $399 its not really that expensive, that less then what i payed for my first DVD Burner.

*there is one or two models that come with very expensive toshiba notebooks, but those drives are horrible when it comes to specs.

Zapablast05
01-02-08, 10:13 AM
I didn't mean piracy. If I rip a DVD and re-burn it in HD, will that work?

nekrosoft13
01-02-08, 10:32 AM
i'm sorry but i still don't understand what you are trying to do?

you want to rip a DVD, up-convert it to HD?(according to post #9) 720P? 1080P? and then burn it on CD(according to post #5)? Also you want it done in Xvid?

lets say the original MPEG2 (DVD) content is 90 minutes long, to convert it to 720p, and have decent image quality would require about over 2GB, for 1080p you would need over 4gb.
note: at even those sizes, thats not near HD-DVD or BD Quality

so no chance of fiting it on CD. thats one issue.

second problem is upconverting a DVD, there is simply no point, while resolution will be higher, you can't turn SD content into real HD content. You can't add details that are not in the source material.

If you really want to convert DVDs to Xvid then just use the original resolution, don't upscale or downscale the meterial, keep it at about 1300Kbps-1500Kbps and you will have near DVD quality.

Zapablast05
01-02-08, 09:22 PM
That sucks. I was hoping to rip DVD's and re-burn them with higher quality, maybe HD.

einstein_314
01-02-08, 10:18 PM
That sucks. I was hoping to rip DVD's and re-burn them with higher quality, maybe HD.
Why do you want to do this? It's not going to make them higher quality....You can't make them HD just by upconverting them.

sytaylor
01-02-08, 10:21 PM
That sucks. I was hoping to rip DVD's and re-burn them with higher quality, maybe HD.

If you compress a file, the best it can ever be is that compressed baseline.

t3hl33td4rg0n
01-02-08, 10:51 PM
There isn't much point in ripping DVD for that purpose, and besides your not going to get better quality upscaling them.

Now ripping DVD's are good for these reasons....

Making Backups
Local HDD storage, good for HTPC's (converting to AVI)
Putting Multiple movies on a single DVD/HDDVD/BDROM

Zapablast05
01-03-08, 02:37 AM
Why do you want to do this? It's not going to make them higher quality....You can't make them HD just by upconverting them.


I have about 200 DVD's or so, and I thought I would be able to burn them and change their format to HDDVD so I wouldn't have to rebuy 200+ HDDVD's.

mythy
01-03-08, 02:52 AM
HD DVD players play your DVD's as well so you would never have to rebuy them. I mean you could rip a DVD and then proses the video and up convert it to 720P which if done right wont look that bad but most TV's have internal scalers that will do this automatically. Your TV will have a fixed resolution and if its HD then it must take the 640x480 movie and up convert it to 1920x12000 for you to view it full screen. Now my set up does this amazingly well. You can hardly tell weather or not its a HD movie but with that said most don't :p

Zapablast05
01-03-08, 05:18 AM
I want that HD experience, though. They don't even have Band of Brothers on HD yet!!

sytaylor
01-03-08, 10:57 AM
I want that HD experience, though. They don't even have Band of Brothers on HD yet!!

The best route may be via HDMI from your PC to your TV. Thats what Im doing at the moment (or it was, until this latest card, which for some reason wont output to my tv...)

Zapablast05
01-03-08, 03:48 PM
I just remembered that you can download movies from iTunes, but do they contain HD content? Because I got Van Wilder but it's MP4. I never thought about using that red, greed, and blue cable (I don't know what it's called) on my PC but I don't have one.

sytaylor
01-03-08, 04:07 PM
I just remembered that you can download movies from iTunes, but do they contain HD content? Because I got Van Wilder but it's MP4. I never thought about using that red, greed, and blue cable (I don't know what it's called) on my PC but I don't have one.

Get yourself an HDMI cable, shouldn't be more than about $15/$20. Goes direct from your video card to your TV's HDMI slot.

nekrosoft13
01-03-08, 04:34 PM
HDMI is not excactly direct, you still need an adapter from DVI to HDMI, and then seperate cable for audio

sytaylor
01-03-08, 05:21 PM
HDMI is not excactly direct, you still need an adapter from DVI to HDMI, and then seperate cable for audio

Yeah I just use my PCs audio, its better than the tv :p

Whats this talk of an adapter? I used to just plug my HDMI cable into my 6800GT and it saw the TV and would output to it. Now, nothing...

nekrosoft13
01-03-08, 05:24 PM
well you either need DVI to HDMI cable

http://www.smelectronics.com/images2/S-HDMI-DVI-1.jpg

OR HDMI-DVI adapter

http://www.zpluscable.com/images/products/cmd1939-hdmi.jpg

his video card "Foxconn GeForce 8600GTS" doesn't have HDMI plug on the back

einstein_314
01-03-08, 07:52 PM
I want that HD experience, though. They don't even have Band of Brothers on HD yet!!
I don't know why you don't understand this yet....but you can't "get the HD experience" from a DVD that you upscale. All upscaling does is take the current pixels and interpolate between them to add more. You can't make HD content from non-HD content. Upsizing them to HD and burning them on disks accomplishes the exact same thing that your TV (or DVD player) would do anyways when playing DVD's.

Zapablast05
01-03-08, 08:09 PM
Get yourself an HDMI cable, shouldn't be more than about $15/$20. Goes direct from your video card to your TV's HDMI slot.

I only have that component output. And $15/$20 for an HDMI cable!? Dude, I paid $45 for one!