R680 (3870x2) price?

[PlayerZen14]

ive been trying to find out the price range of the r680. Some sources say that its going to be 799, others say between 399-499. Is there any confirmed price?

[SH64]

Is it even confirmed ?

[amk21]

I believe that It is still a rumor, nothing has been confirmed by amdati...

[Revs]

I can confirm that I don't know the price (nana2)

[Madpistol]

I can confirm that I don't know the price (nana2)

That's a confirmation in my book. ;)

[shabby]

Cant be more then two 3870's, i'll guess at around $450.

[amk21]

I thought that It would be more than two 3870's, just a thought....

[shabby]

Then people would rather buy 2 3870's then one r680, you have to entice consumers somehow.

[KasuCode]

Id say around 450/550 Either way ill get 2.

[cvearl]

Between $400 and $500 is all they have said. So I guess mid $400's to start. But at the same time that has everything to do with performance versus whatever nVidia ends up releasing.

If nVidia puts out a 9800XXX whatever right afterward for $350 that matches it in performance? then obviously the price has to come down.

But I am guessing $449 starting.

http://au.gamespot.com/video/939217/6184393/ces-2008-amd-booth-tour

The smoothness you see in the video cannot be judged as you are watching a video stream on the web. That said...

COD4 2560x1600 with AA applied. Probably maxed settings is pretty impressive even if it was getting 30 fps at that setting, you would have to admit that at those settings in that engine is pretty damn impressive!

But you are only impressive until you get compared once again to your competitor (dependant on pricing again). Anything can happen in the next month or so.

Interresting times again.

C.

[Tuningmaster]

Between $400 and $500 is all they have said. So I guess mid $400's to start. But at the same time that has everything to do with performance versus whatever nVidia ends up releasing.

If nVidia puts out a 9800XXX whatever right afterward for $350 that matches it in performance? then obviously the price has to come down.

But I am guessing $449 starting.

http://au.gamespot.com/video/939217/6184393/ces-2008-amd-booth-tour

The smoothness you see in the video cannot be judged as you are watching a video stream on the web. That said...

COD4 2560x1600 with AA applied. Probably maxed settings is pretty impressive even if it was getting 30 fps at that setting, you would have to admit that at those settings in that engine is pretty damn impressive!

But you are only impressive until you get compared once again to your competitor (dependant on pricing again). Anything can happen in the next month or so.

Interresting times again.

C.


Yeah thats not half bad and it wasnt even crossfired yet. I might be getting a couple of these.

[PlayerZen14]

COD4 2560x1600 with AA applied. Probably maxed settings is pretty impressive even if it was getting 30 fps at that setting, you would have to admit that at those settings in that engine is pretty damn impressive!

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/605/9/

3870 crossfire (which would only cost about 420) is running COD4 at 1920x1200 with 4AA, hitting about 52fps. I dont know whether it was played at max settings, but i wonder if cranking it up to 2560 would make it play at only 30fps (like the r680 did). Any benchmarks of the 3870 crossfire running cod4 and 2560x1600?

[Tuningmaster]

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/605/9/

3870 crossfire (which would only cost about 420) is running COD4 at 1920x1200 with 4AA, hitting about 52fps.


I dont think thats any better than a single 8800GTX if I a not mistaken. I know that at 1680X1050 maxed out with 4XAA I get over 60fps in Vista 64.

I sure hope the 3870X2 are a good bit stronger.

[Madpistol]

Ouch... Call of Duty 4 is already extremely playable @ 1920x1200 4xaa on my 8800 GTX. I mean it constantly runs between 30-60 fps. It never drops below around 30 fps.

Yea... not that strong. :thumbdwn:

[cvearl]

Ouch... Call of Duty 4 is already extremely playable @ 1920x1200 4xaa on my 8800 GTX. I mean it constantly runs between 30-60 fps. It never drops below around 30 fps.

Yea... not that strong. :thumbdwn:

You guys are so funny.

First of all that link is to a month old Crossfire review. Bascially 2 cards in 2 slots. Will the 3870X2 be faster? Probably not. I don't know. If having the CF bridge on the PCB locally and sharing some on board hardware between the 2 chips reduces latency? then it very well might be faster. :lol: We will see I guess.

Second of all. Ya. Their review numbers show the 8800 GTX getting roughly 42 fps. In their test anyway. But that more or less jives with your experiences with your GTX. They show the Crossfire 3870's (not 3870x2 single slot solution) getting 52.53 fps in the same test.

So if we use the Crossfire 3870 results as ANY point of reference, we are seeing roughly a 17% increase over the GTX in that one test. For a card that is comming out at about $450. That's not too shabby.

Not sure what you expected from it. But that was about all I would expect.

Look. We all know, or at least surmise, that the 3870x2 is not going to give the performance crown back to ATI in 2008. No one, including ATI, have said it would. It's only going to keep them in the performance enthusiast market for a while until they ready thier next gen. nVidia no doubt will have faster single slot and or dual GPU cards as well in 2008 whatever they may represent. It's a fps per dollar race in various segments as always. We all can be pretty sure that the highest end Ultra solutions will still be from nVidia in 2008. I would bet on that. But that does not mean that the performance mainstream, mid range and entry levels have to exclusively belong to nVidia. The BMW Saber is one of the fastest cars available. Does that mean that BMW has the best $25,000, $35,000 and $50,000 cars in the world as well? Far from it. Same applies here. Buy the best bang for your buck in the price range you have budgeted and every other opinion is purely brand loyalty. Which is cool too. It's a free country after all. Sort of. :lol:

No doubt that just before or after the 3870x2 release, nVidia will be releasing a solution in the $400 - $500 range that will be as good or better and the price war will go on.

We all win. Unless AMD is eliminated. Then we all lose.

C.

[SH64]

http://au.gamespot.com/video/939217/6184393/ces-2008-amd-booth-tour

The smoothness you see in the video cannot be judged as you are watching a video stream on the web. That said...

Who says it was running smoothly in the video ? its obviously wasnt running so smooth (notice the choppy movement at the start of the demo) & there wasnt even action yet.
but as i said in other thread its understandable as it was running @2560x1600.

[cvearl]

Who says it was running smoothly in the video ? its obviously wasnt running so smooth (notice the choppy movement at the start of the demo) & there wasnt even action yet.
but as i said in other thread its understandable as it was running @2560x1600.

What framerate is the STREAMING VIDEO you just watched delivering? That's what you will see on the screen in the game. It does not mean that is how it was running in the room in person. I might be flawed in my reasoning. I don't know. I can only go fro ma personal experience I had.

I have filmed my LCD with a MiniDV camcorder in a racing game I was playing to later compress for youtube or google video and the "framerate" apeared to be somewhat less smooth in the compressed video than what it really was.

That's all I was getting at.

C.

[KasuCode]

It would make no sense to show people the game like that if it was not running smooth. Thats about a 15fps video itsself

[Tuningmaster]

Careful guys, the ATI natives are restless. Gotta keep walking on-


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/176/486354108_e86163bb32.jpg?v=0

[cvearl]

I did not think I was comming off as a restless native. Actually I just have not posted for some time on nVnews and thought the "Other Graphics" forum was kinda quiet so here I am. :type:

I think they should have had the ol' framerate counter up on the screen as the video proves zip. If they were trying to impress someone. They should have in my opinion showed their cahonies with FRAPS displayed. All that video does is invite "look how choppy that is" and other such comments.

Another example of crappy marketing techniques from ATI. They really need to get a better spokesman and a more aggresive PR plan. About 100% so.

This silly little clip of a nerd standing next to a 24" widescreen is nothing more than a half hearted attempt at a "were still kickin around" statement.

If they are impressed with what they have done, they should act like it.

If results are good and the price is right? It might be fun to get one.

C.

[SH64]

Yeah the "Other Graphics" forum is dead for a while now. its still nice to see ATi getting back into competition :thumbsup:

btw cvearl or anyone else : any idea if i'm going to need a CF mobo for this card or is it going to work in just any PCI-E x16 mobo ?

[KasuCode]

Yeah the "Other Graphics" forum is dead for a while now. its still nice to see ATi getting back into competition :thumbsup:

btw cvearl or anyone else : any idea if i'm going to need a CF mobo for this card or is it going to work in just any PCI-E x16 mobo ?

Cards have the chip built in so a single card should work in crossfire on any pci-e board. Obviously you would need a crossfire board to run 2 of these cards in quad crossfire.

[methimpikehoses]

I will be watching to see how the drivers look when these are released... wouldn't mind having a pair of gpu's on my IP35 Pro.

[cvearl]

I will be watching to see how the drivers look when these are released... wouldn't mind having a pair of gpu's on my IP35 Pro.

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Any problems at all with your Vista 64? I have been eyeballin it recently.

C.

[Tuningmaster]

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Any problems at all with your Vista 64? I have been eyeballin it recently.

C.


I have Vista 64 and love it, I would highly recommend it if you have 4gbs of ram.