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Mr Bigman
01-08-08, 07:50 PM
I am putting together another rig that needs power.

I was using the 74 gig Raptors before but they were only 8mb cache and sata 150.

Im looking at 500GB WD drives to match the ones i use for storage in this rig so is it a good choice over the old Raptors?

I could go with the 150GB Raptors but there only SATA150 also.

The WD drives are SATA300 and have 16 MB buffers.

Isn't there a 32 MB buffer drive yet from WD?

breathemetal
01-08-08, 08:04 PM
Here's some 32mb drives:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010150014+1035424340&Configurator=&Subcategory=14&description=&Ntk=&srchInDesc=

crainger
01-08-08, 08:35 PM
Get some 1tb Sammy Sungs Bigman. It will please me.

grey_1
01-08-08, 09:04 PM
Here's some 32mb drives:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010150014+1035424340&Configurator=&Subcategory=14&description=&Ntk=&srchInDesc=
The seagate 500GBs are what I've been wanting, I've read some good stuff about those and the spinpoints.

Mr Bigman
01-08-08, 09:45 PM
So WD's aren't the best for 500GB"s? I want to keep the brands together in this rig not mismatch brands even though these other brands have good performance.

Bearclaw
01-08-08, 10:03 PM
Get some 1tb Sammy Sungs Bigman. It will please me.
QFT. 1TB for sure. Or just talk to the guy who built the servers in Oceans 13. They had 100 exobytes(SP?) of hard drive space... or something like that.

Absolution
01-08-08, 10:08 PM
the seagate 7200.11 are good and cheap (top left on the pic)

http://game-deception.org/hds.jpg is a sorta accurate benchmark (i wasn't using the pc, but i was running all 4 tests at once)

Mr Bigman
01-08-08, 10:13 PM
The Big question of this thread is, are raptors dead? I seen some bigger drives do better than the raptors and raptors are sata 150 right?

I always stuck with WD and Maxtor but Maxtor has fallen to seagate and i use seagate and like them.

Bearclaw
01-08-08, 10:27 PM
Ya, the new seagates wipe the floor with the old raptors.

crainger
01-08-08, 11:08 PM
The Big question of this thread is, are raptors dead? I seen some bigger drives do better than the raptors and raptors are sata 150 right?

I always stuck with WD and Maxtor but Maxtor has fallen to seagate and i use seagate and like them.

Raptors are dead pretty much. Newer Sammy Sung, Hitachi and Seagate drives can all keep up with the Raptors in real life situations.

Mr Bigman
01-09-08, 12:17 AM
Even at 10K RPM's, There done?

I was thinking of the 750's from WD cuz i want to match up the brands but i will check out some of the reviews cuz i want this done for my project.

Bearclaw
01-09-08, 12:21 AM
Even at 10K RPM's, There done?

I was thinking of the 750's from WD cuz i want to match up the brands but i will check out some of the reviews cuz i want this done for my project.
Ya. The newer drives from Seagate and samsung are equal to them now, if not faster/better.

crainger
01-09-08, 01:12 AM
Get some 15K Cheetahs Bigman. I know you want to.

Bokishi
01-09-08, 07:59 PM
I'm curious what makes the 7200RPM new drives faster than a Raptor

crainger
01-09-08, 08:06 PM
Bigger cache, better NCQ and some other tricks I forgot the acronyms for. ::p:

amk21
01-09-08, 09:47 PM
duhickys and whatchamacallits

licker
01-09-08, 10:58 PM
Bigman...the fastest thing on the market right now is SAS Drives, Newegg.com sells sas controllers and sas drives

mythy
01-10-08, 06:25 AM
I could go with the 150GB Raptors but there only SATA150 also.



sata 300 support means nothing at all. All it will add is NCQ and it can hurt desktop performance!


I think I should clarify a few things here for all those that recommend current high capacity drives over the Raptors.. High density platers such as the new F1 Samsung have massive throughput but they suffer from crap access times and really take a hit on seak times along with I/O operations. The Raptor is still king of the hill by a long shot! Being able to sustain 110mb a second doesn't mean **** for a OS drive. In fact its worthless. What you need is a low latency fast access drive such as a SAS or a SCSI. The Raptor is the next best thing or heck a SSD drive.

nekrosoft13
01-10-08, 06:40 AM
Ya, the new seagates wipe the floor with the old raptors.

and the new samsung wipes the four with the new seagate ;)

CaptNKILL
01-10-08, 07:15 AM
and the new samsung wipes the four with the new seagate ;)
And the new Seagates are now about 1 1\2 years old. :lol:

nekrosoft13
01-10-08, 07:21 AM
And the new Seagates are now about 1 1\2 years old. :lol:

which one? are you talking about the 7200.11?

Revs
01-10-08, 07:38 AM
Bigman. The reason Raptors don't have SATA300 is there is no need for it. I don't know of any drive that would be limited by SATA150, never mind SATA300. So I wouldn't be put off by this.

Revs
01-10-08, 07:41 AM
and the new samsung wipes the four with the new seagate ;)

Are Samsung HD drives good though. I know the Raptor's and Barracuda's are damn good drives with killer warrentys. I've never liked any Samsung products exept their monitors, which are good.

mythy
01-10-08, 07:45 AM
Well I wouldn't trust my data with them. They never were a leader in the industry when it came to hard drives. All they managed to do was pull off high transfers and thats only due to plater density so there not even that great. There crap when it comes to server performance and acses times. Not really a great hard drive for a gaming PC. They would do wonders tho in a HTPC of a media server

Revs
01-10-08, 07:55 AM
The fast access times of the Raptor have made a huge difference for me. Installing Vista SP1 RC with a Maxtor took 2.5hrs, Raptor took just over an hour.

Pretty good sustained data rates too. About 70mbps.