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vampireuk
04-22-03, 06:59 AM
Anyone in England know a good recruiter for getting into a damn IT job. All the good ones are taken by the job center, which means I have to be unemployed for 6 months before I could apply for them:rolleyes:
All I want is to be working in a repair center building and upgrading but noooo I have to be unemployed first:mad: sorry had to vent:D
Originally posted by vampireuk
Anyone in England know a good recruiter for getting into a damn IT job. All the good ones are taken by the job center, which means I have to be unemployed for 6 months before I could apply for them:rolleyes:
All I want is to be working in a repair center building and upgrading but noooo I have to be unemployed first:mad: sorry had to vent:D
Micro$oft is still gobbling up IT tech like nobody's business. I'm sure you could get a job here. :D
LOL vamp LOL
/vamp sings "I'm an alien I'm a legal alien. I'm a Englishman in Rdmond" BAHAHAHA
what is this "job" thing you talk about?
vampireuk
04-22-03, 02:46 PM
Just run of the mill upgrading and building computers, I've applied to a *shudder* oem place:eek: :D
Dont know where you live, but when I was living in London, I got all my work through temp agancies, which can help you get in the door at least. I ended up getting 2 full time contracts that way, I couldnt take the 2nd one as I moved to France :( All I want to do is work also, in a pc shop buildiong and repairing pcs, but I dont speak the froggy tounge good enough yet, so they tell me :mad:
Temping agencies and "consulting" companies are just pimps. They leech half your salary and give you and the client nothing in return.
SurfMonkey
04-24-03, 05:25 AM
Depends where you live. Ingram Micros used to be a great place to start as a junior engineer. You get loads of experience with lots and lots of different hardware.
Originally posted by DaveW
Temping agencies and "consulting" companies are just pimps. They leech half your salary and give you and the client nothing in return.
Not so in my case(s) I was paid what I could expect, office job bringing £260 a week after tax, pretty good for someone without a degree of any kind, who dropped out of school at 16 :p
Originally posted by Smokey
Not so in my case(s) I was paid what I could expect, office job bringing £260 a week after tax, pretty good for someone without a degree of any kind, who dropped out of school at 16 :p
Thats great, just don't ask how much your consulting company gets paid for your time.
Originally posted by DaveW
Thats great, just don't ask how much your consulting company gets paid for your time.
LOL, Ive got a very good idea cos I was always working in accounts :p But what I was getting paid temping vs full time contract was about the same without the benifts and paid holidays/sickdays.
digitalwanderer
04-24-03, 09:52 AM
The last time I went to a headhunter for a job in building/repairing PCs I ended up a Level Two System Engineer at US Steel, which was basically an UbersystemOp on a VAX cluster. :rolleyes:
Oh sure the MONEY was good, but they had me learning Fortran77 fer chrissakes...in 1998!!!! :eek:
I always figured that was me geek penance phase for missing out on all the late-80's hardware "fun". :rolleyes:
Originally posted by digitalwanderer
The last time I went to a headhunter for a job in building/repairing PCs I ended up a Level Two System Engineer at US Steel, which was basically an UbersystemOp on a VAX cluster. :rolleyes:
Oh sure the MONEY was good, but they had me learning Fortran77 fer chrissakes...in 1998!!!! :eek:
I always figured that was me geek penance phase for missing out on all the late-80's hardware "fun". :rolleyes:
I had a similar job at AK Steel, except the money wasn't so good. It was VAX/Pascal/Focus.
SurfMonkey
04-24-03, 11:31 AM
The last time I went looking for a job I got really p*ssed instead and ended up going to university and getting a degree. Then I got head hunted before I finished and am now rolling in cash :rolleyes: ... So in a round about way I ended up doing what I set out to do, it just took me three years longer than I thought...
Actually when I set out to get a job I was eighteen... now I'm thirty. :eek: I spent three at uni, so I must have been drunk for nine years.
Fantastic. :jumping:
digitalwanderer
04-24-03, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by DaveW
I had a similar job at AK Steel, except the money wasn't so good. It was VAX/Pascal/Focus.
Mine was actually mostly VAX/DCL stuff which I actually enjoyed/took to really quick/easy since it was basically just DOS with a few syntax changes. Repairing the hardware was sort of fun, a real history lesson.
I think I can still take apart a VT100-340 terminal in the dark and put it back together, wearing gloves in me work greens. :)
The money was ok, I started at $10/hr and was making $13 when I left 16 months later after turning down a $16/hour to stay. (It's when I stopped working to do the Momthing, they couldn't compete on the money end with what my wife was getting offered to go back to work. :rolleyes: )
They were raping me too, the mill was paying $30/hour for my time I later found out! :mad:
Me hates headhunters on principle, but I wouldn't have gotten that nice a job any other way. It was a good foot-in-the-door for me.
Originally posted by digitalwanderer
The money was ok, I started at $10/hr and was making $13 when I left 16 months later after turning down a $16/hour to stay. (It's when I stopped working to do the Momthing, they couldn't compete on the money end with what my wife was getting offered to go back to work. :rolleyes: )
They were raping me too, the mill was paying $30/hour for my time I later found out! :mad:
Yep.... You typically get only about half of what your boss is paying your consulting company. They are just making profit from your work, while they themselves do nothing while taking part of your pay.... just like a pimp and his hoes.
Many managers don't realize what consulting companies are. They sell themselves as though they have a warehouse filled with highly trained, carefully screen professionals, just waiting to be sent to the job that perfectly matches them.
What really happens is a manager calls a consulting company, says "I need a programmer with Oracle experience". The rep says "I think we have some people who will fit what you are looking for, i'll email you their resumes and call you back tomorrow". After he hangs up he goes on Monster.com, searches for people with the required skills, contacts them and says "my company is looking for an Oracle programmer, can you email me a copy of your resume?". Once he receives it he sends it to the client on his companies letterhead so it looks a person they had on file all this time from their extensive pool of carefully selected professional programmers.
Last time I was hired by a consulting company, they didn't interview me, they did no background or reference checks, they did squat other than to tell me about the job and who to interview with there. I had one interview with the client, the job was offered and the consulting company hired me that day. I almost laughed when my new boss said "how long have you been with (consulting company X)?"... like, since today boss. I got no benefits from them either. Then for the next 6 months (until I was hired directly) they did nothing other than take 40% of my paycheck every month.
My boss at the time would have saved a lot of money if he just went on Monster.com himself.
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