CES 2008 Nvidias GT200 has over a billion transistors

[eXeraZoR]

hmmm interesting

We've learned that the next generation Nvidia is going to have more than a billion transistors and if made in 55 nanometers it will be the biggest chip that was ever built.

As we've said yesterday, 45nm simply won’t be possible this year, and as far as we know GT200 will be 55nm or, in worst case, 65nm. We have received mixed information on this particular matter.

It will be an interesting chip to compete with and it is scheduled for the second half of the year. It will definitely be significantly bigger than R700, but only when you understand that R700 is two, rather than one, chip.

source
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5053&Itemid=1

[AthlonXP1800]

Guess Geforce 9 series is actually really refresh and could be the last Nvidia cards to carry Geforce brand and next generation GT200 to use different brand name?

[eXeraZoR]

maybe Geforce10 but then just if this is a complete new architecture and is not based on any previous card.

but otherwise i dont think that in one same year a 9series and a 10series is introduced.

maybe just a higher 9series name

i dont know

[slaWter]

What a useless article...

[walterman]

What a useless article...

Agree, but, there's one data, the number of transistors.

The G80 has 681M & 128 SPs, so, with 1000M you could put 192 SPs in this new chip (681M/128)*192 = 1000M +- (I know that there're more parts in the chip, this is just a quick estimation). This is what a lot of people at b3d thinks too. A 192SPs chip running shader domain at 2 GHz, bringing you something close to 1 TFlop of shading power. Sounds more real for me than the rest of rumors.

[eXeraZoR]

How much faster then the 8800GTX would be then this card in % circa?

[walterman]

How much faster then the 8800GTX would be then this card in % circa?

The 8800GTX has around 340 GFlops. If the new card ends with 1 TFlop, it should be almost 3x times faster at shading.

[amk21]

The 8800GTX has around 340 TFlops. If the new card ends with 1 TFlop, it should be almost 3x times faster at shading.

w00t, 90fps in crysis here we come

[eXeraZoR]

i am happy enough when i can play the game in DX10 with all in very high, vsync and 16xcsaa

[eXeraZoR]

GT200

In this early stage, we've learned that even in the next generation Nvidia doesn’t plan to support DirectX 10.1 API.

Nvidia wants to continue its DirectX 10 path, and there's a good chance that it will simply migrate to DirectX 11 before it supports DirectX 10.1.

As Nvidia has a dominant position in game development and in the publishing community it doesn’t look that DirectX 10.1 has a lot of chances in 2008, but ATI will certainly push a title or a few that will have full support for DirectX 10.1.

source
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5081&Itemid=1

[Blacklash]

The 8800GTX has around 340 GFlops. If the new card ends with 1 TFlop, it should be almost 3x times faster at shading.

Sounds nice; QX9650, a 780i board, and two of these.

[Redeemed]

Sounds nice; QX9650, a 780i board, and two of these.
Well, assuming you have zero stability issues, and the drivers for SLi are solid and scaling properly upon that card's release- then yes that would be an awesome combination.

[SH64]

Hope it dosent end-up as a dual or triple GPU solution.

[slaWter]

Hope it dosent end-up as a dual or triple GPU solution.

QFT! I don't like this trend at all!

[Supersnake]

QFT! I don't like this trend at all!

Me too, I have refused to purchase even a 2XSLI or 2XCrossfire. As for Tri-Sli, it is an insult to be offering these to consumers. I want to see the industry resume releasing ever more powerful single video cards that truly meet the definition of a next generation card - and definitely stop this trend of releasing pancakes. NVIDIA, you reading this?

[KasuCode]

:screwy:

[AirRaid]

A small rant....

Whether people know it or not, most of us are waiting for Nvidia's high-end refresh GPU, what would've been called NV55 in the old days. The G80, G92 are both practically "NV50". All of the respins of the G80, including G92, and products using those chips (i.e. GeForce 9800 GX2) are still basicly the original G80/NV50 architecture.

What many of us are waiting for is, not another faster, smaller respin of the G80, even if it's two GPUs on a single card and called "GeForce 9800". Nor are we expecting a totally next-generation architecture (i.e. NV60 / G100 / GeForce 10 ) anytime in 2008. We're simply waiting for a single high-end GPU that uses a reworked, improved version of the NV50 / G80 / G92 architecture. Which to avoid confusion, I'm still calling NV55.

During the spring & summer of 2007, this was expected to be the G92 launching in Q4 2007, a GPU that had over a billion transistors, close to 1TFLOPs of programmable shader performance, and thus, roughly 3 times the performance of G80. It turned out that G92 was NOT this new refresh part. G92 was merely a respin of G80. Then some of us got confused again with the GeForce 9800 that is launching in Feb. Many thought, finally, Nvidia's new highend refresh. However it turned out to be merely two G92 GPUs on one card.

I don't know what Nvidia actually calls its highend GPU that is a total refresh of G80, yet not a totally next-gen architecture either (yet Nvidia will call it a next-gen architecture anyway, as it did with NV47/G70). I don't know what the consumer product name for it is, either. All I know is that, this is what I want. This is what most of us want. I am NOT upgrading from my 8800 Ultra until Nvidia brings out the *real* refresh product. I don't want to wait until late 2009 or whatever, for Nvidia's true next generation, totally new architecture (NV60 or whatever). However I am also not going to settle for any respin of the NV50 / G80 / G92. Nor am I going to buy any highend card that uses two G80/G92-derived GPUs that offers only something like 30% more performance.

[KasuCode]

Hell, Ill buy 4 gerbils in quad crossfire if it means I get better performance at a reasonable price.

[SH0DAN]

Guess Geforce 9 series is actually really refresh and could be the last Nvidia cards to carry Geforce brand and next generation GT200 to use different brand name?



I highly doubt Nvidia will give up the Geforce name any time soon.

[amk21]

I highly doubt Nvidia will give up the Geforce name any time soon.

Why do you suppose so? From a marketing standpoint it makes perfect sense to go to a new naming scheme once we get to the 9 series. A new naming scheme along side the D(P,E)9, it looks like this is the direction nvidia is heading.

[walterman]

Nvidia GT200 is a single PCB
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5172&Itemid=1

We wrote that after D8E, Geforce 9800 GX2 Nvidia plans to launch a new high end card codenamed GT200. This new card will have a single PCB and won’t be two chips at two PCBs sandwich design.

This has now been confirmed by a few sources and some big boys have to be prepare its machines for such a card.

This card will compete R700 and both these cards are expected in second half or 2008 and we guess that late Q2 or early Q3 are the soonest you will see them out.

Long life to the 8800GTX ! :D

[CAUTION]

Sounds nice; QX9650, a 780i board, and two of these.

Or maybe 3 ? :D