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conroejoe
01-14-08, 04:53 PM
Anything but Speechless: 100 Things People Are Really Saying About Windows Vista

Cnet, PC World, computerworld?

They must all be wrong.....

http://www.microsplot.com/news/2007/12/anything_speechless_100_things_people_are_really_s aying_about_windows_vista

grey_1
01-14-08, 05:47 PM
I think it's hilarious that a self-taught blue collar video game addict like me had Vista 32 and 64 bit running perfect with none of these "show-stopping bugs these "ITs" are snivelling about.

rofling at them.

mythy
01-14-08, 05:52 PM
I had betas working great! Heck I followed it since the first leak. Vista VTF!

$n][pErMan
01-14-08, 06:34 PM
Most Vista problems I ever had were in the first month of using it... once the drivers matured and I figured out how things work I have been fine. Just lazy bitchy people if you ask me..... :rolleyes: Same problems were around when XP came out. The faster people see that XP is the past and make the move to Vista the better off everyone is so companies can focus on Vista and not XP and Vista.

Bearclaw
01-14-08, 06:40 PM
I thought vista was great. It was much more organized and as far as work went, it is suited better for the work enviroment with windows mail, windows calendar, etc.

It just ran slow on my outdated system.

Mr Bigman
01-14-08, 09:19 PM
Wow, i can't believe all the hate for this OS.

All these publications stated Vista is horible and in some cases the NTFX version of Windows ME.

Did i get into something bad going Vista? I been pretty lucky since getting it except for a few minor issues which ive fixed myself.

Are we looking at a product that just dosn't have life left? SP1 has hopes from seeing what SP1 rc has to offer.

Im stronly thinking of just putting XP on my other rig and keeping my HTPC rig Vista.

Ive stated that i was tired of hearing people bitch about how they think Vista is bad but after readling all these differnt rants from even big players, i should just sit back and read these rants i supose cuz what i say won't give a damn to those who really are suffering from the Vista bug.

I will refuse to comment anymore about this cuz the many outway the few in this situation.

XxDeadlyxX
01-14-08, 09:42 PM
Dual core and 2GB are pretty much minimum for Vista to run anywhere near XP level of speed/performance.

If you have a high end system, use Vista by all means. With newest drivers and RC1 I can't tell much difference between XP and Vista in speed.

evilchris
01-14-08, 09:56 PM
I think it's hilarious that a self-taught blue collar video game addict like me had Vista 32 and 64 bit running perfect with none of these "show-stopping bugs these "ITs" are snivelling about.

rofling at them.

There *are* show stopping bugs for IT guys. Bugs that self-taught blue callar video game addicts like you cannot fix.

conroejoe
01-14-08, 10:19 PM
Wow, i can't believe all the hate for this OS.

All these publications stated Vista is horible and in some cases the NTFX version of Windows ME.

Did i get into something bad going Vista? I been pretty lucky since getting it except for a few minor issues which ive fixed myself.

Are we looking at a product that just dosn't have life left? SP1 has hopes from seeing what SP1 rc has to offer.

Im stronly thinking of just putting XP on my other rig and keeping my HTPC rig Vista.

Ive stated that i was tired of hearing people bitch about how they think Vista is bad but after readling all these differnt rants from even big players, i should just sit back and read these rants i supose cuz what i say won't give a damn to those who really are suffering from the Vista bug.

I will refuse to comment anymore about this cuz the many outway the few in this situation.

Dude,

If you do decide to go back to XP please, give us some thoughts when you do. Most people that have gone back have noticed how much snappier XP is. I gave up on Vista x64 and went to XP x64 over the weekend. So far I'm 100 times happier than I was with Vista x64 and it's not just caching BS.

Bearclaw
01-14-08, 10:46 PM
Dual core and 2GB are pretty much minimum for Vista to run anywhere near XP level of speed/performance.

If you have a high end system, use Vista by all means. With newest drivers and RC1 I can't tell much difference between XP and Vista in speed.
Ya, and I am still on a single core Athlon so I decided to wait some more.

ViN86
01-14-08, 11:03 PM
Dude,

If you do decide to go back to XP please, give us some thoughts when you do. Most people that have gone back have noticed how much snappier XP is. I gave up on Vista x64 and went to XP x64 over the weekend. So far I'm 100 times happier than I was with Vista x64 and it's not just caching BS.
again... of course it's faster. it was written for hardware made in 2001.

"OMG Windows 98 FLIES on my computer!!!!!"
:rolleyes:

i swear these articles make me think im the only one whose Vista install is working fine.:|

ViN86
01-14-08, 11:12 PM
i think the best part about this whole Vista debacle is that people think that bitching can actually change the mind of MS.

do you really think conroejoe that they will bow to your words and just halt Vista production? they spent a lot of time and a lot of money on this OS. and they will shove this OS down your throat whether you like it or not.

dont get me wrong, it wont be tomorrow. but all it takes is to stop updating dx 9, start working on dx10, remove updates for XP, stop production on XP, and then if youre a gamer, your decision is already made for you.

Butter Bandit
01-14-08, 11:13 PM
A friend of mine actually bought a new "gaming" rig that had Vista preinstalled...and he begged me to install XP on it because he couldn't get the sound in Call of Duty 4 to work correctly, and a few of his other games wouldn't run as well.

I didn't bother trying to fix the issues, since I haven't messed with Vista at all, and put XP on. He knows absolutely nothing about computers, and this was his first gaming rig. He said he couldn't be happier with XP, it solved all his problems.

I'm not saying Vista is a bad operating system...but I've definitely seen several people have enough problems with it that they just want to go back to XP. I'm sure there are many people who haven't had any issues whatsoever...but in my "real world experience", XP is the Windows OS of choice right now.

Slammin
01-14-08, 11:23 PM
Great... Another joe thread.

conroejoe
01-15-08, 12:35 AM
Great... Another joe thread.


lol welcome! (nana2)

I love it how people blame me for unfavorable Vista related articles ROTFLMAO

grey_1
01-15-08, 03:07 AM
There *are* show stopping bugs for IT guys. Bugs that self-taught blue callar video game addicts like you cannot fix.
Nor do I want to. :) Still on XP pro at work, and from what IT tells us we'll be staying that way for a good long time. Just waay to many critical apps that won't work with V.

seeker010
01-15-08, 05:00 AM
well Vista has a tendency to pause and contemplate the meaning of life for a few minutes while I move things from raid array to raid array at over 150 MiB/s I'd call that a show stopper IT bug.

nekrosoft13
01-15-08, 06:48 AM
Nor do I want to. :) Still on XP pro at work, and from what IT tells us we'll be staying that way for a good long time. Just waay to many critical apps that won't work with V.

some of our PCs at work (office area) have to stay xp as well. because IT department is mostly so damn lazy and still relies on outdated programs from early 90s.

while technicians are split half and half between vista and xp. everyone that is still running xp is complaining, and wants vista instead.

jcrox
01-15-08, 08:23 AM
Nor do I want to. :) Still on XP pro at work, and from what IT tells us we'll be staying that way for a good long time. Just waay to many critical apps that won't work with V.

a couple of friends said this same thing and then one of them asked the lead "IT" man this and it totally makes me LOL:

friend: "have tried clicking on properties and changing the compatibility mode?"

"IT" guy: clicking on compati...what? :wtf:

apparently that fixed a lot of their problems. In some cases it still didn't do anything though.

ViN86
01-15-08, 09:04 AM
lol welcome! (nana2)

I love it how people blame me for unfavorable Vista related articles ROTFLMAO
again... of course it's faster. it was written for hardware made in 2001.

"OMG Windows 98 FLIES on my computer!!!!!"
:rolleyes:

i swear these articles make me think im the only one whose Vista install is working fine.:|
respond to what i said.

conroejoe
01-15-08, 09:07 AM
some of our PCs at work (office area) have to stay xp as well. because IT department is mostly so damn lazy and still relies on outdated programs from early 90s.

while technicians are split half and half between vista and xp. everyone that is still running xp is complaining, and wants vista instead.


Well its not just that IT people can become lazy, updating the applications is expensive and when you have thousands of people using something that works in a business critical situation you cannot take the chance of an update that could hose a database or other critical information. I work for a large cable company that has critical applications with customer information - billing, personal information, etc. They would have to upgrade thousands if not millions of copies of software (across the country) - so we use what works. As far as Vista we will never switch to it, too many compatibility issues and our IT guys just flat out hate it too.

The people that are still running XP and complaining about wanting Vista have probably never used Vista at home.

You know you guys can read all you want about the core changes in Vista but I installed XP x64 the other day and the XP x64 drivers for my X-Mystique weren't working so I grabbed the Vista installation of the drivers, installed them and they work perfect. So as much as we've been told XP and Vista are so different, they aren't. If I can install the Vista drivers in XP and they work fine, its just more smoke and mirrors about the way the drivers work too.

ViN86
01-15-08, 09:15 AM
You know you guys can read all you want about the core changes in Vista but I installed XP x64 the other day and the XP x64 drivers for my X-Mystique weren't working so I grabbed the Vista installation of the drivers, installed them and they work perfect. So as much as we've been told XP and Vista are so different, they aren't. If I can install the Vista drivers in XP and they work fine, its just more smoke and mirrors about the way the drivers work too.
LOL

try running DX10 on your XP, then tell me the drivers work the same way.

all you do is spread FUD. oh, and complete bull**** that you make up in your head.

conroejoe
01-15-08, 09:21 AM
respond to what i said.

Ah ok, so now we are against progress? Eye candy rules over performance today? So XP is faster than Vista because it was written for older hardware... then why does my system with a quad @ 3.6, GTX and 4GB of ram run faster on XP? I mean if XP was meant for older hardware and Vista was meant for newer hardware... what do you want me to upgrade to so that I can take full advantage of Vista and see it scream?

Shouldn't Vista be faster with NEW hardware? I mean your argument is retarded which I why I didn't respond in the first place.

What you said insinuates the following:
Vista should be slower because it was written for new hardware. (which I have)


So exactly why do you believe Vista should be slower? Because of the Windowblinds like GUI? Because SuperFetch is caching Solitare because one time long ago you played it? Maybe because the Windows Sidebar with 15 gadgets is so worth it? Really man, did you even think about what you said... or did you just have verbal diarrhea? Eagerly awaiting an intelligent response.

Tr1cK
01-15-08, 09:22 AM
Joe, haven't you figured out it's an e-peen thing here? This is why you see more quad-core, SLI systems here than anywhere else on the net.

Everyone knows XP is better all the way around minus Aeroglass and DX10. They just don't want to admit it.

It will take 10 years before Vista breaks through into the IT world because it breaks too many things. Companies aren't going to waste money deploying something that is unnecessary.

Vista is a completely unnecessary OS. MS knows this. Why do you think they don't just release DX10 for XP? It would be the next Windows ME if not for that one little detail.

conroejoe
01-15-08, 09:26 AM
LOL

try running DX10 on your XP, then tell me the drivers work the same way.

all you do is spread FUD. oh, and complete bull**** that you make up in your head.


Whos spreading FUD? I'm running Vista drivers on XP, douche. (GASP!!!! I know you can't believe it works, it did.) DX10. Yea, theres another great reason for Vista. Not only does my Windows experience have to suck, now you want me to sacrifice another 20% in my games. I'm just not willing to sacrifice performance for the eye candy (aero / GUI) man. Jesus dude, do you even have a pulse? I don't even think your brain is getting blood.