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Mr Bigman
01-17-08, 01:41 AM
I heard about this car but why does it look so plain?

I know sound isn't done with hardware in vista no more plus with the latency issues with creative soundcards. I thought maybe this is why they don't offer Xram and other freatures on the PCI-e version and also its green which sucks compared to the color they had on the PCI versions.

Dragunov
01-17-08, 05:30 AM
Well, this also means new drivers :D

SLippe
01-17-08, 05:51 AM
PCI-E version? Cool. I'll look into that. I got the XtremeGamer for Xmas, but it's still in the unopened box. I've even thought about returning it for one that has the X-RAM, but wasn't sure how much difference it makes.

EDIT: Can someone post a link to the PCI-E version or the news of it's release? TIA

wildman92
01-17-08, 06:55 AM
http://www.guru3d.com/newsitem.php?id=4828

SLippe
01-17-08, 07:03 AM
http://www.guru3d.com/newsitem.php?id=4828
Thank you, sir.

Mr Bigman
01-17-08, 01:17 PM
I believe the reason they didn't put XRAM or any other hardware level parts is because its PCI-EX. The latencies are too high on that bus and lat leads to BSOD's of course with poor drivers from Creative as usual.

like the guy said in the windows section about Vista doing away with HAL, this is why, there is no need for hardware sound at the PCI-ex level.

This is good and bad but when did the XRAM ever work?

3NZ0
01-19-08, 04:25 AM
They are using the extreme audio pci-e chip that they designed for notebooks just on a card built for desktop pci-e slots instead of expresscard slots.
As they haven't designed a proper, fully featured xfi chip for pci-e yet, there are no pci-e xfi cards with all the features.
Don't hold out for anything either with creatives fantastically rubbish driver support for their current hardware and the bodge job solution for EAX in vista.

walterman
01-19-08, 08:04 AM
I'm considering the ASUS Xonar D2(x) to replace my x-fi.

This is the PCI version:
http://www.pcper.com/images/reviews/505/crysis.jpg

The full review:
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=505

CPU usage seems very interesting.

Dazz
01-19-08, 09:16 AM
I'm considering the ASUS Xonar D2(x) to replace my x-fi.

This is the PCI version:
http://www.pcper.com/images/reviews/505/crysis.jpg

The full review:
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=505

CPU usage seems very interesting.
They are in the process of a PCI-E card also, which is what i am waiting for.

hokeyplyr48
01-19-08, 12:20 PM
PCI-E version? Cool. I'll look into that. I got the XtremeGamer for Xmas, but it's still in the unopened box. I've even thought about returning it for one that has the X-RAM, but wasn't sure how much difference it makes.

EDIT: Can someone post a link to the PCI-E version or the news of it's release? TIA

i would return that POS. i hate that card with a passion. i bought it thinking it was a good deal but did no reading up about it. i play online games so i need to use a mic, thats a no go with this card. the flexi-jack is mic-in and digital out and in the control panel, it's grayed out with this card so you can't choose which one you want and it has mood swings so you never know when it's going to work. so you have to turn everything on and off and switch inputs for about 20-30 minutes in the hopes that it will randomly decide to work. i've RMA'd it before and this is just how the card operates.

return that card and get something better. it's cheap for a reason

Bokishi
01-19-08, 03:47 PM
They are in the process of a PCI-E card also, which is what i am waiting for.

That does sound promising

Absolution
01-20-08, 07:08 AM
still waiting for pci-e + hardware acceleration that is not a pain in the ass to use on vista

they've got #1 down, #2 is yet to be seen

$n][pErMan
01-20-08, 01:22 PM
I have been using my X-Fi Fatal1ty PCI card flawlessly in Vista 64-bit and used it fine in 32-bit as well. I also have 4GB RAM and it works fine (someone people have had issues with this I think?) Im not sure what game out there beside BF2142 ever used the XRAM... but im glad I have it just incase :p

GunshyGabe
01-21-08, 08:44 AM
They are in the process of a PCI-E card also, which is what i am waiting for.
Great! I was wondering if a PCI-E would be made. I just may have found my new sound card finally.

nekrosoft13
01-21-08, 09:18 AM
PCI is fast enought for sound, why is everyone so excited about PCI-E sound cards? is not like it will make any real difference.

Dragunov
01-21-08, 11:35 AM
I'm proud of my X-Fi Elite Pro :D

So no need for a PCI Express one for me

But I hope they gonna still support the older ones

Fathertime36
01-22-08, 08:01 PM
All Xram has ever equaled is pure hype, they have never nor will they most likely ever utilize it.....good for epeen and an excuse to charge extra money for a non-exsistent feature basically

kazna
01-22-08, 10:43 PM
PCI is fast enought for sound, why is everyone so excited about PCI-E sound cards? is not like it will make any real difference.
Because its NEW! It also frees up PCI slots for all sorts of other things we don't use. =)