This is rediculous

[Tygerwoody]

How on earth did Marcus Camby not make the All Star team? He is number 1 in blocked shots at 3.9 per game. Number 2(almost number 1) in rebounds at 14.3 per game. He is the best defender in the NBA today. He's a class act and IS the most important player on the Denver Nuggets. That is no disrespect to Allen Iverson or Carmelo Anthony, but Camby was much more deserving of the position than they were. If you are a true basketball fan, you can't help but admire Camby's play. This is really upsetting he did not make it.

/rant

[bob saget]

there are many players who are good kind in "secondary" ways but dont get recognized because the other are doing dunks and reverses and all this crazy high flying ****.
Yea it is sad.

[Tygerwoody]

I just don't get it. He's on the road to win the defender of the year award AGAIN. Best Rebounder and Best Shot Blocker. In my personal opinion he's the best "pure" center in the league other than Dwight Howard. Obviously Yao Ming got in because of his tremendous China following, but I would at least think the coaches would vote Camby in.

But yea, you are exactly right. If Camby was more of a showboat, he would be a shoe in for the All Stars.

[methimpikehoses]

Meh, who cares. The ridiculous thing is that Travis Outlaw isn't in the dunk contest. Best hops in the league, besides Lebron.

[Tygerwoody]

Meh, who cares. The ridiculous thing is that Travis Outlaw isn't in the dunk contest. Best hops in the league, besides Lebron.
.... i thoroughly disagree. But then again you seem like you are only interested in dunk contest so I guess I can't take your opinion too seriously. :o

[Zelda_fan]

That is no disrespect to Allen Iverson or Carmelo Anthony, but Camby was much more deserving of the position than they were. If you are a true basketball fan, you can't help but admire Camby's play. This is really upsetting he did not make it.

/rant

You've got some of the dumbest sense in basketball I've ever seen.

I can't believe you think Camby is better that AI or mellow. That's like saying the suns aren't winning because of steve nash.

[Zelda_fan]

All thought I will say I don't understand how Yao Ming is even on the team. He is a medicore player at best. He's definatly not tier 1 (kobe bryant, tim duncan, etc), and I wouldn't even put him in their 2 either (people like shawn marion).

[methimpikehoses]

.... i thoroughly disagree. But then again you seem like you are only interested in dunk contest so I guess I can't take your opinion too seriously. :o

I only think that its ridiculous he's not in the dunk contest.

Is it really worth taking any part of all-star weekend seriously? :lol:

No one cares that Camby didn't make it. No one.

[Tygerwoody]

You've got some of the dumbest sense in basketball I've ever seen.

I can't believe you think Camby is better that AI or mellow. That's like saying the suns aren't winning because of steve nash.
Nice job being rude for no reason. :thumbsup:

Where did I say Camby was better than AI or Melo? It just so happens, that Allen Iverson is my favorite basketball player. However, Camby has contributed more to the team this year than either. Camby did deserve to be on the All Star team more than either in my opinion.

And i have no clue what you are trying to say with your steve nash reference....

[Tygerwoody]

No one cares that Camby didn't make it. No one.
Noone? Try every single person out there that gives a damn about NBA and knows what they are talking about. All NBA commentators are all talking about Camby. Hell, go to the NBA forums. People are mad as hell Camby didn't make it to the team.

People who just pay attention to "dunks" and "points" obviously don't care about Camby because they don't know anything about basketball. Theres a reason why Michael Jordan is revered as the best basketball player of all time. Do you think it is because his dunks and points? HA!!!! One huge reason Michael Jordan is revered as the best(by true NBA followers) is due to his supreme ability to defend. Marcus Camby is the best defender in the league. Period. It deserves recognition.

[Tygerwoody]

All thought I will say I don't understand how Yao Ming is even on the team. He is a medicore player at best. He's definatly not tier 1 (kobe bryant, tim duncan, etc), and I wouldn't even put him in their 2 either (people like shawn marion).
Yao Ming will be in the NBA All Star game when he is old, feeble, and deteriorating like Shaq. Those Chinese will vote Yao and Yi in every single year.

Yao Ming is exactly my point though. He is in the All Star game, yet only 1 of the best two centers from the West(Stoudamire and Camby) are in it. Just like my opinion is that Stoudamire is more the reason for the Suns success and NOT Steve Nash(which i'm sure you'll disagree with as well). I definitely feel Nash is a huge part of it, but I feel Stoudamire is even bigger.

[methimpikehoses]

Noone? Try every single person out there that gives a damn about NBA and knows what they are talking about. All NBA commentators are all talking about Camby. Hell, go to the NBA forums. People are mad as hell Camby didn't make it to the team.

People who just pay attention to "dunks" and "points" obviously don't care about Camby because they don't know anything about basketball. Theres a reason why Michael Jordan is revered as the best basketball player of all time. Do you think it is because his dunks and points? HA!!!! One huge reason Michael Jordan is revered as the best(by true NBA followers) is due to his supreme ability to defend. Marcus Camby is the best defender in the league. Period. It deserves recognition.

So he'll win defensive player of the year. The West is too stacked to have 3 Nuggets go, and AI and Carmelo are better than Camby. No one cares. People who post on the NBA forum aren't real people, they're whiny fanbois.

[Tygerwoody]

So he'll win defensive player of the year. The West is too stacked to have 3 Nuggets go, and AI and Carmelo are better than Camby. No one cares. People who post on the NBA forum aren't real people, they're whiny fanbois.
With responses like this, how on earth do you expect people to respect you/take you seriously? I surely don't, thats why you don't deserve a real reply. :udawg:

[methimpikehoses]

With responses like this, how on earth do you expect people to respect you/take you seriously? I surely don't, thats why you don't deserve a real reply. :udawg:

:wtf:

[Camp0rz]

HGH, BABY!

WANNA FIGHT?



I didn't think people actually watched basketball anymore.

[methimpikehoses]

Heh, just got tix given to me for the Nuggets-Blazers tonight... I'll do some extra Camby heckling just for the little bitch WoodyTyger.

[Tygerwoody]

Heh, just got tix given to me for the Nuggets-Blazers tonight... I'll do some extra Camby heckling just for the little bitch WoodyTyger.
little bitch? dude you seriously need to grow up. So sad someone could be so pathetic... but life so sad that its funny at the same time :udawg:

[crainger]

::lol::

[methimpikehoses]

little bitch? dude you seriously need to grow up. So sad someone could be so pathetic... but funny at the same time :udawg:

:cry:

:lol:

[Zelda_fan]

Yao Ming is exactly my point though. He is in the All Star game, yet only 1 of the best two centers from the West(Stoudamire and Camby) are in it. Just like my opinion is that Stoudamire is more the reason for the Suns success and NOT Steve Nash(which i'm sure you'll disagree with as well). I definitely feel Nash is a huge part of it, but I feel Stoudamire is even bigger.

TBH, there really aren't any TRULY great centers anymore. Maybe Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett, but they are more of power forwards.

Amare Stoudamire is good, but without Nash on the team you might as well cut his scoring by 60%. And he's not really a clutch player. When it's 60 seconds to go and the Suns need a play, Nash is the one making it happen, not Stoudamire.

Same thing with Camby. He's a tier two player.

[Tygerwoody]

TBH, there really aren't any TRULY great centers anymore. Maybe Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett, but they are more of power forwards.

Amare Stoudamire is good, but without Nash on the team you might as well cut his scoring by 60%. And he's not really a clutch player. When it's 60 seconds to go and the Suns need a play, Nash is the one making it happen, not Stoudamire.

Same thing with Camby. He's a tier two player.
I agree with most everything you said. There really aren't any true great centers... Except for maybe Dwight Howard(he may not be "great" now, but he will be VERY soon. You can't deny he isn't damn good).

And I will also agree that Camby is tier two. But I consider only the greats to be tier one. To be quite honest, half of the All Stars are Tier 2 imo. And imo Camby is more worthy of All Star team than someone like David West.

[methimpikehoses]

Tim Duncan qualifies as a great center.

Yao and Dwight Howard are approaching greatness... they are definitely both very good. Amare is pure power forward IMO.

As a Blazer fan I have high hopes for Greg Oden of course. ****ing elk microsurgery.

[Sazar]

Tim Duncan qualifies as a great center.

Yao and Dwight Howard are approaching greatness... they are definitely both very good. Amare is pure power forward IMO.

As a Blazer fan I have high hopes for Greg Oden of course. ****ing elk microsurgery.

How is Yao approaching greatness? He was approaching greatness last year, this year is a step back for him. I sure hope we haven't already seen the best he'll ever be based on this season.

Are you now going to say that Ilgauskas is also approaching greatness? Come on. :)

Howard has taken the Magic to a place they haven't been since Shaq was there and Howard's Penny is Hedo this season.

[methimpikehoses]

How is Yao approaching greatness? He was approaching greatness last year, this year is a step back for him. I sure hope we haven't already seen the best he'll ever be based on this season.

Are you now going to say that Ilgauskas is also approaching greatness? Come on. :)

Howard has taken the Magic to a place they haven't been since Shaq was there and Howard's Penny is Hedo this season.

Okay, Yao could be great. He's still very good.

I like Ilgauskas, but he's not great. He's pretty solid tho.

Howard is teh man.

[Tygerwoody]

How is Yao approaching greatness? He was approaching greatness last year, this year is a step back for him. I sure hope we haven't already seen the best he'll ever be based on this season.

Are you now going to say that Ilgauskas is also approaching greatness? Come on. :)

Howard has taken the Magic to a place they haven't been since Shaq was there and Howard's Penny is Hedo this season.
Thats another guy who should have made it to the All Star team. Hedo Turkoglu VERY much deserved a spot.



If I were to make one change from each all star team I would do the following:

West:
Replace David West with Marcus Camby

East:
Replace Richard Hamilton with Hedo Turkoglu.



Other than those changes, I think they actually did pretty good with their All Star selection.(well, other than Dwayne Wade being a starter for the East. He might be good, but he has a losing team. Losing teams don't deserve to have players in the All Star Game. Just my opinion. Stupid fan votes....)