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ChaoticNick
02-04-08, 03:43 PM
It was released today (Feb. 4), anyone played it yet?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sins_of_a_Solar_Empire
According to the official Sins website, the primary feature that sets Sins apart from other RTS titles is the seamless integration of a real-time epic strategy mode with real-time tactical fleet combat. Players can view entire galaxies, then zoom in to their planets and even individual fleets, starships, and even fighters, similar to the Strategic Zoom featured in the 2007 RTS title Supreme Commander.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/04/SinsBox_Perspective.jpg/408px-SinsBox_Perspective.jpg

swaaye
02-04-08, 03:46 PM
oooo this has potential. Space RTS + fleet tactics just tickles! lol

Hopefully it's better than the pathetically simple and primarily lame SW: EaW.

ahheadlock
02-04-08, 10:13 PM
didn't realise this was out.

I loved GalCiv II, and i believe (although i may be wrong) this is by the same mob. I'll definitely pick it up if thats the case.

Section-9
02-04-08, 11:21 PM
Can't wait to pick up my copy tomorrow ! (nana2)

Thingding
02-05-08, 02:09 AM
cool been waiting for this one. supcom + homeworld + civ = sins.

from what i've read it generates multiplayer maps on the fly and games can take days, even months to finish. so they added multiplayer quicksave which just sounds great.

also you *can* place some objects in 3d space like homeworld, but the fights look like they play out in 2d sadly.

i'll get it on the d/l later.

stncttr908
02-05-08, 08:36 AM
Yes, Stardock was (is?) behind the GalCiv series as well.

methimpikehoses
02-05-08, 10:47 PM
Anyone get this? Or see a review?

ahheadlock
02-05-08, 10:55 PM
There's an 'out of the box' review at gamespy.com
http://au.pc.gamespy.com/pc/sins-of-a-solar-empire/849840p1.html

seems pretty positive. The lack of a single player campaign is a surprise to me, and a little disappointing.

Then again i always just played sandbox mode in GalCiv II anyway so.... I'll probably be buying it.

methimpikehoses
02-05-08, 10:59 PM
There's an 'out of the box' review at gamespy.com
http://au.pc.gamespy.com/pc/sins-of-a-solar-empire/849840p1.html

seems pretty positive. The lack of a single player campaign is a surprise to me, and a little disappointing.

Then again i always just played sandbox mode in GalCiv II anyway so.... I'll probably be buying it.

Thanks!

I could care less about a SP narrative... sounds pretty good so far.

Tomato
02-06-08, 11:23 AM
Played the game for 6 hours last night.

The lobby system needs a revamp and the UI could use some tweaks. Aside from that the game really is awesome. I just wish a lot more people played the game. The game is like Empire at war space battles with a leveling system for capital ships and a really cool tech tree design. I like it alot.

DaveW
02-06-08, 06:25 PM
This is out already???? holy cow... i'm heading out to buy it this very second... I still play the heck out of Gal civ 2!

ChaoticNick
02-06-08, 08:56 PM
review at Shacknews: http://www.shacknews.com/featuredarticle.x?id=767

Amuro
02-06-08, 10:07 PM
You guys can purchase a digital download of this game form Stardock directly. Looks like that's what I'll be doing since all stores here are closed for Chinese New Year holidays.

methimpikehoses
02-07-08, 02:08 AM
review at Shacknews: http://www.shacknews.com/featuredarticle.x?id=767

favorable review. (nana2)

Thingding
02-07-08, 05:08 AM
the diplomacy thing worries me a bit. can you have the ai do it like in total war? to be honest all i want... all i EVER wanted... was homeworld 2 with twice as many ships and updated graphics.

The PDS mod version of HW2 is the best RTS ever made. period.

Ninjaman09
02-08-08, 01:34 PM
This game is really intriguing. I'm gonna buy it after I get home today and check it out, I haven't played a good strategy game since Civ 4 and the fact that it's an RTS hybrid also sounds very interesting.

methimpikehoses
02-08-08, 06:12 PM
Ordered. (nana2)

Ninjaman09
02-09-08, 12:29 AM
Put a few hours into it so far, it's surprisingly accessible and incredibly in-depth. The micro-management of your units and the overall upkeep of your empire once you start to expand is incredibly streamlined and efficient. I never once felt overwhelmed, even when dealing with multiple pirate raids and enemy attacks. The easily configurable and intelligent unit AI takes care of most of the targeting and such, although you can micromanage to your heart's content. Overall extremely impressive game. I'm very happy with it! Too tired to continue playing for now though. I could definitely see playing this game until daylight though. :)

methimpikehoses
02-09-08, 12:55 AM
Put a few hours into it so far, it's surprisingly accessible and incredibly in-depth. The micro-management of your units and the overall upkeep of your empire once you start to expand is incredibly streamlined and efficient. I never once felt overwhelmed, even when dealing with multiple pirate raids and enemy attacks. The easily configurable and intelligent unit AI takes care of most of the targeting and such, although you can micromanage to your heart's content. Overall extremely impressive game. I'm very happy with it! Too tired to continue playing for now though. I could definitely see playing this game until daylight though. :)

Good to hear! I'm really looking forward to it... post some screenies if you get a chance to! :cool:

Ninjaman09
02-09-08, 01:29 AM
I lied, I read the manual a bit and played for a little while longer. Understand that right now I'm forcing myself to stop, only because I want to wake up tomorrow refreshed and ready to start a marathon session which will likely leave me a drained husk by the end of the weekend. This game is festering in my mind. I've honestly not been this excited about a strategy game since...ever?

Edit: Added a bunch of screenshots! (image blurriness is due to JPEG compression not the game)

Here's an overview of one of my colonies - it's an asteroid but it's located at a key focal point so I've stationed my fleet here and beefed up the defenses:
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1448/screenshot0if7.th.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot0if7.jpg)

Zoomed out map of what I've discovered so far - the faint purple lines coming from the star and the far right planet represent cultural influence from an enemy player's empire - this can be repelled by your own cultural influence which can itself be influenced by several things (including military might :D) You'll notice that the lines connect the various asteroids and planets - this is the way the game regulates travel for strategic purposes.
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/7785/screenshot1pt2.th.jpg (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1pt2.jpg)

Here's a close-up of my capital world. A bit light on defenses but it's pretty deep in my own territory so it's not very vulnerable to attack, and I could move my fleet there quickly if needed. Zooming in and out from your worlds is as simple as rolling your mouse wheel.
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/979/screenshot2jg2.th.jpg (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2jg2.jpg)

Quick look at one of the research trees - options are opened up by both completing lower-tiered research as well as building enough research facilities.
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/6358/screenshot3ss2.th.jpg (http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot3ss2.jpg)

Close-up of my main fleet, capital ship is selected and in the back with my supporting frigates up front. There are a couple of defensive structures and one of my resource asteroids nearby as well.
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/9524/screenshot4lt9.th.jpg (http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4lt9.jpg)

Engaging an enemy fleet. The individual units are capable of making smart targeting decisions, allowing me to queue up reinforcements and continue managing my economy and research during combat.
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/1619/screenshot5dq4.th.jpg (http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot5dq4.jpg)

I destroyed over half their fleet and forced them to retreat. The purple icons in the top represent their ships (zooming in you'd see the individual ship models more clearly). The large ship on the right is their capital ship.
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/3514/screenshot6wq3.th.jpg (http://img352.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot6wq3.jpg)

Close-up of their capital ship phasing out of this area. The edge of the light circle area represents the gravity well of the major astral body in this area. Once outside the gravity well, ships can enter FTL travel to move quickly between planets / colonies. There are defensive structures available which can delay their escape, which I have at my forward colony (not here). Take note of the large number of grey ships in the bottom left - that's a pirate fleet that just showed up as I finished fighting.
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/8108/screenshot7vh5.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot7vh5.jpg)

Back at my asteroid colony, the pirates just beat me to it but my stationary defenses held them off long enough for my fleet to arrive and obliterate them. Pirates are fairly easy to defeat compared with other players. Usually they lack shields and swarm you with multiple weak ships which your units intelligently focus fire.
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8012/screenshot8lr8.th.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot8lr8.jpg)

That's it for now! Buy this game if you're interested, I sincerely doubt you'll be disappointed. :D

Vasot02
02-10-08, 03:59 PM
Great game
I also have it

But the single player is lacking and feels swallow:thumbdwn:
It has only skirmish kind of maps

Its only about 1) kill all the enemy colonies 2) Game Over :thumbdwn:...
Becomes very monotonous after a while

I love games with deep Sci-Fi story and campaigns with objectives (Just like Homeworld was)


Originally Posted by ahheadlock

The lack of a single player campaign is a surprise to me, and a little disappointing.


+1 :(

Armed_Baboon
02-10-08, 04:56 PM
Great game
I also have it

But the single player is lacking and feels swallow:thumbdwn:



Freudian slip?

DaveW
02-10-08, 08:08 PM
I've been playing all weekend and i'm already bored of the single player. I agree with Vasot, the problem with single player is its not deep enough. The game is like an RTS / 4X strategy hybrid, but it lacks what makes single player in either format enjoyable. With an RTS you play the single player for the campaign, and to watch the story line unfold and watch the occasional pretty cinematic. Sins has no single player campaign, all you can do is play "skirmish" against the computer. With a 4X game like Gal Civ 2, I personally play to insult the diplomats of the other races and provoke them into war, only to watch them get pwned by the fleet of uber warships I spent all time designing and building. Sins has very little diplomacy in the single player campaign (only "demands"), the tech tree is small and mostly uninteresting, and there is no ship designing. Cap ships gain power ups with experience, thats about it.

I'm still having fun with online play, except for the rare crash and occasional balance issue, which will probably be fixed with a future patch.

Tomato
02-10-08, 11:15 PM
The game has some serios balance issues. The missile cruisers can just be built in mass and lay waste to any planet in minutes. There is no goo counter till the end of the game.

Missile cruisers need to be nerfed.

Ninjaman09
02-11-08, 08:34 AM
Frankly I don't see that it is tremendously less in-depth than other games of the genre. Granted I have not played Galactic Civ. but it seems that rather than lacking in certain features (such as more developed diplomacy) it has exchanged them in favor of RTS elements that do not exist in other 4X games. It is what it claims to be, in that regard. I find that more often than not, with these kinds of games, the perceived depth has as much to do with how much the game captures your imagination as its actual presentation.