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ThomasRyel
04-25-03, 06:30 PM
Hmm R350 with 256 megs GDDR2/3 anyone? (my god this is the wild guess marathon)

Any comments on the "must disable some rendering theory"?

Paul
04-25-03, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by CaptNKILL
I got it...

Its a 5800 Ultra running on Detonator 50s!!!!!!!!

Best. Driver. hack. Release. Ever :p

digitalwanderer
04-25-03, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by MuFu
This thread is hilarious. :D

MuFu.

I got nailed in an argument over at R3D on this one by CatalystMaker:

Originally posted by CATALYST maker
would you not say that I'm in the know as well?;)

that is not a 1024 X 768 score period.

Can anyone give me anything to use to justify arguing that it was done at 1024x768 rather than a 320x200 run?

Dazz
04-25-03, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by CaptNKILL
check the main nvnews page. it says that the NV35 will be officially announced at E3 (May 15). So the cards will probably be available in early June. And take that wilth a hand full of salt. We where told the Geforce FX 5800 was going to be wide spread by January did it happen?... NO.

Solomon
04-25-03, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by Dazz
And take that wilth a hand full of salt. We where told the Geforce FX 5800 was going to be wide spread by January did it happen?... NO.

I would be the same too Dazz until I had confirmation from a major reseller of video cards who deals with the big fricken gun. He has no reason to lie, he flat out said that Nvidia has approached him as well as others that he should expect a new card in June. He never said though it was the NV35. Hehehe. He just said Nvidia told him that a new card was coming out in June and announced in May. You don't tell this kind of information to resellers if it's not true, especially when business is money.

Regards,
D. Solomon Jr.
*********.com

GlowStick
04-25-03, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by Harnagel
Why doesn't someone with a 9800Pro do a bench at 640x480 and post what they get, just for comparisons sake.

Yes,

8354 at stock speeds.

i can easiy see how someone with a 3ghz+ system and OC'ed could get 10k.

stock card speed usually gets 5300ish on on my system.

MuFu
04-25-03, 06:52 PM
http://smilies.xibase.com/lol2.gif

MuFu.

Piren
04-25-03, 06:52 PM
Heya

Cant we just assume that there's nothing special about this card ... and all that we saw is some hacked 3dmark/drivers that disable the use of pixel shaders?

so all you got there is just a high poly scene being rendered normally with the PS crunching out of it?

frenchy2k1
04-25-03, 06:55 PM
could you give us the detail score at a low resolution (640x400 or under)?

I would be interested to see if the Game1 score stay around the ~160fps or jump a lot...

That would give us an idea...

GlowStick
04-25-03, 06:59 PM
ANNOUCNING RETURN OF THE BIT BOYS

I cant tell you WHAT video card this was ran on, but its insanely fast, better than the so called 'nv40' specs.

Solomon
04-25-03, 07:00 PM
Easy way to make a false 3DMark03 score.

1) Run it in a extremely low resolution.
2) Start 3DMark03 with default settings on your video card and set your CPU to whatever you want in the BIOS before booting up.
3) Stop the benchmark after about 1 or 2 tests and then minimize 3DMark03 (It's window based so it's easy to mess with).
4) Load up a SoftFSB program such as ones that come with Asus or Gigabyte motherboards and overclock to the settings you know will work. These programs don't need reboots to increase the FSB/Speed of your CPU
5) Load up Powerstrip and overclock your card
6) Now maximize 3DMark03 and run the program again. Your old settings will be shown while the benchmark will spit out your results from your powerstrip and SoftFSB
7) Take a snap shot of the entire desktop and save it as new.jpg

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1) Run 3DMark03 at the required 1024x768 resolution.
2) Take a snap shot of the desktop again. (remember don't move any of the pop up windows) and name it old.jpg

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1) Now take photoshop and cut out the "windows" interior of your results and place it over the old one in old.jpg
2) Do the same with the, "3DMark Score 10244" (or whatever it is) and place it over the one in the new.jpg

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This will show your .jpg as an unaltered .jpg because pixel for pixel the interior window is the same pixels as the true and blue snapshot of your desktop. For people who use .png to prove otherwise. The instructions will work the same.

I know this is wrong to post this info, but it's the only way to show how easy it is to doctor a snapshot of 3DMark03 or any benchmark. If the person who started this thread wants to realistically prove that this is real results. Submit the results and post the link to the results on the Futuremark server. Otherwise, it's very impossible to believe that these are real.

Regards,
D. Solomon Jr.
*********.com

Hellbinder
04-25-03, 07:01 PM
Yeah I post on rage3d every now and then. I hate that site. It attracts children and lamers worse than Planetquake

The Godzilla sized pot calling the Kettle Black.... :rolleyes:

Fake, Fake Fake...

Brick_Top
04-25-03, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by MuFu
http://smilies.xibase.com/lol2.gif

MuFu.

Does that mean that a low resolution score is the answer?

SurfMonkey
04-25-03, 07:08 PM
OK so what've got so far :confused:

What its not:

1. Its not an NV40
2. Its not an NV35
3. Its not a MAXX version of a current ATI card
4. Its not going to be released for ages yet

What is might be:

1. 3DMark03 run at 1024x768 or maybe 640x480
2. Judging by the scores it's on a 2GHz+ cpu.
3. It belongs to a IHV who released hardware this year - Matrox,, Nvidia, and ATI. Who else?
4. It's DX9 class in the current gen, so maybe a refresh
5. Its got a lot of bandwidth, so 256bit bus
6. A complete fake but fun anyway.

I still stick with my assumption that it is a bitboys voodoeon fx tnt nuclear dawn card running at 4Ghz and it's own private power station.

digitalwanderer
04-25-03, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by SurfMonkey
I still stick with my assumption that it is a bitboys voodoeon fx tnt nuclear dawn card running at 4Ghz and it's own private power station.

I dunno, wouldn't that take up TWO pci slots? :eek2:

GlowStick
04-25-03, 07:16 PM
Bitboys revealed!

I thought it would be more funny!~

For all of you that dont know (one maybe?) my screen is real, but ran at 310x200

It reminded me of play WolfenStien.

Razer
04-25-03, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by Solomon
Easy way to make a false 3DMark03 score.

1) Run it in a extremely low resolution.
2) Start 3DMark03 with default settings on your video card and set your CPU to whatever you want in the BIOS before booting up.
3) Stop the benchmark after about 1 or 2 tests and then minimize 3DMark03 (It's window based so it's easy to mess with).
4) Load up a SoftFSB program such as ones that come with Asus or Gigabyte motherboards and overclock to the settings you know will work. These programs don't need reboots to increase the FSB/Speed of your CPU
5) Load up Powerstrip and overclock your card
6) Now maximize 3DMark03 and run the program again. Your old settings will be shown while the benchmark will spit out your results from your powerstrip and SoftFSB
7) Take a snap shot of the entire desktop and save it as new.jpg

-------------------------------------------------

1) Run 3DMark03 at the required 1024x768 resolution.
2) Take a snap shot of the desktop again. (remember don't move any of the pop up windows) and name it old.jpg

-------------------------------------------------

1) Now take photoshop and cut out the "windows" interior of your results and place it over the old one in old.jpg
2) Do the same with the, "3DMark Score 10244" (or whatever it is) and place it over the one in the new.jpg

------------------------------------------------

This will show your .jpg as an unaltered .jpg because pixel for pixel the interior window is the same pixels as the true and blue snapshot of your desktop. For people who use .png to prove otherwise. The instructions will work the same.

I know this is wrong to post this info, but it's the only way to show how easy it is to doctor a snapshot of 3DMark03 or any benchmark. If the person who started this thread wants to realistically prove that this is real results. Submit the results and post the link to the results on the Futuremark server. Otherwise, it's very impossible to believe that these are real.

Regards,
D. Solomon Jr.
*********.com

Well said, I'll be happy getting a 9800PRO safe in the knowledge that NV35 has no more pixel power than NV30, same cores remember just NV35 supports 256bit which of course requires a chip revision because it has an internal memory controller, 'nuff said.

Harnagel
04-25-03, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by GlowStick
Yes,

8354 at stock speeds.

i can easiy see how someone with a 3ghz+ system and OC'ed could get 10k.

stock card speed usually gets 5300ish on on my system.

Could you post the fps for each of the 4 games?

edit: nevermind, I assume the picture you posted earlier was something along those lines?

GlowStick
04-25-03, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by Harnagel
Could you post the fps for each of the 4 games?

edit: nevermind, I assume the picture you posted earlier was something along those lines?

Ah yes, i forgot to post the indvidual game speeds sorry.

The 8k was at 640x400 Resolution (no card overclock)
The 11k was at 310x200 with card overclock (410/350?)

I feel i should go around telling people i get 11k ; D

But it was so pixlelated, in the battle of proxycon, it looked like the guys were from DOOM lol!

Shadowx
04-25-03, 08:01 PM
it was a geforce to go with liquid platinuntrogen, very high end stuff, NASA!!

Solomon
04-25-03, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by Shadowx
it was a geforce to go with liquid platinuntrogen, very high end stuff, NASA!!

Hehehehe, These posts are always fun to read, especially on a Friday!!! :D

Regards,
D. Solomon Jr.
*********.com

Solomon
04-25-03, 08:08 PM
Hey Glowstick,

Where did you get a VisionTek Radeon 9800 Pro? Online? Retail store?

Regards,
D. Solomon Jr.
*********.com

Harnagel
04-25-03, 08:12 PM
newegg has the Saphire 9800pro

Solomon
04-25-03, 08:15 PM
Yeah, I noticed they have the OEM Sapphire 9800 Pro. I'm just curious where he was able to get the VisionTek 9800 Pro already. :)

Regards,
D. Solomon Jr.
*********.com

GlowStick
04-25-03, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by Solomon
Hey Glowstick,

Where did you get a VisionTek Radeon 9800 Pro? Online? Retail store?

Regards,
D. Solomon Jr.
*********.com

the the VisionTek from outpost.com

I orderd it at 8PM Friday (the first day they started shipping) arrived Saturday 11:30AM

Outpost.com is a HAUSE, it was 399.99$ with 10$ overnight shipping : P

Sorry for the delay, i was eating Pizza :P

Anyhoo they MAY have a cuple left

http://shop2.outpost.com/product/3605325

BUY BUY BUY BUY!