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UberRN69
02-12-08, 07:29 PM
Hey there looking for some advice if a newer heatsink would make a big improvement in my load temps. As you can see from my sig, I'm using a older Zalman 7700-Cu heatsink to cool down my new Q6600. It idles at 38C, OC'd at 3.0GHz. Using Prime95 to stress the CPU it run's up to 63-65C, but dosen't go above that regardless of how long I run it. My case has decent air flow, but with only 80mm fans running, I wouldn't mind going to a case that had a few 120mm's.

I pretty much already know that at newer Zalman 9500/9700, or something similar would improve my cooling. But by how much? If it's only going to drop my load temp 4-5 degree's then I would not consider the $45-$65 to be worth it. But if I get a 8-10 degree improvement then I would most deffinately jump on it.

So anyone out there notice any big improvements when they switched to the newer heatpipe heatsinks from the older ones that only used just copper/aluminum fins?

UPDATE: I went ahead and bought a 9700, see my post for info

hokeyplyr48
02-12-08, 08:57 PM
ultra 120 extreme...best air cooler

ViN86
02-12-08, 09:18 PM
ultra 120 extreme...best air cooler
*points to mine and hokeyplyr48's signatures*

:D

Madpistol
02-13-08, 09:00 AM
*Points at my signature as well*

;)

Rummy
02-13-08, 12:29 PM
*Points at my signature as well*

;)

Oops Tuniq Tower 120. I'm number 2:thumbdwn:

Revs
02-13-08, 01:01 PM
Get a Rum Cooler. They're teh bestist.

Rummy
02-13-08, 01:04 PM
Get a Rum Cooler. They're teh bestist.

Alcohol cooling FTW:cool:

Knell2
02-15-08, 05:47 PM
I love my Scythe NINJAs!!

I will buy the new copper version for my next build.

shabby
02-15-08, 05:58 PM
Wait for this thing :)

http://www.chilehardware.com/images/CES08/c07.jpg
http://www.chilehardware.com/images/CES08/c08.jpg

Madpistol
02-15-08, 08:00 PM
Wait for this thing :)

http://www.chilehardware.com/images/CES08/c07.jpg
http://www.chilehardware.com/images/CES08/c08.jpg

How many heatpipes does it take to be l33t? :headexplode:

Roliath
02-15-08, 11:03 PM
Check what your ambient temps are, I have the TRUE120 and I was not too impressed with its performance. Sure it beats the Stock cooler by way FAR, but I expected more out of it.
(Keep an eye out, I may sell it here in the next few weeks as I'm contemplating going water.)

Mr Bigman
02-15-08, 11:34 PM
Its a fricken brick of copper .

Where is the Fan and why isn't included?

Roliath
02-16-08, 12:55 AM
wait for this... http://www.legitreviews.com/article/632/1/

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5797/acfreezerextreme107a6efxc9.jpg
That looks like it will need some high speed fans to push through those tightly packed fins.
(Looks like a monster though)

dxx
02-16-08, 06:31 AM
I may be missing something here, but is there actually any point in upgrading the cooler, when the chip's already running cool enough that it doesn't cause any stability issues?If that's the case, then there might be more useful things to spend $150 on, than something to placate what appears to be a mild case of nerd-neurosis.

Revs
02-16-08, 07:47 AM
Its a fricken brick of copper .

Where is the Fan and why isn't included?

There are two fans in the middle of the cooler by the look of it. Looks like a monster cooler :)

Amuro
02-16-08, 08:06 AM
That looks like it will need some high speed fans to push through those tightly packed fins.
(Looks like a monster though)
There's a 12cm fan in the middle of it (Freezer Xtreme).
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/editorial/cebit2007-6/ac_freezer_bg.jpg

Madpistol
02-16-08, 09:28 AM
I may be missing something here, but is there actually any point in upgrading the cooler, when the chip's already running cool enough that it doesn't cause any stability issues?If that's the case, then there might be more useful things to spend $150 on, than something to placate what appears to be a mild case of nerd-neurosis.

It's about much more than stability. At stock, The Intel reference HSF is fine. But, get into some heavy overclocking, and the stock Intel HSF runs out of steam pretty quickly. That's where aftermarket coolers come into play.

So yes, there is a point to upgrading your cooler assuming that you overclock.

ATOJAR
02-16-08, 10:00 AM
Ultra 120-eXtreme here, the best cooler ive even owned!

Lenin
02-16-08, 07:51 PM
CoolerMaster Gemin II - it cools not only your cpu, but also the ram and surrounding components :D
http://www.coolermaster.com/products/product.php?act=detail&tbcate=620&id=1171
http://www.virtual-hideout.net/reviews/Coolermaster_Gemin_II/index.shtml

dxx
02-17-08, 10:35 AM
It's about much more than stability. At stock, The Intel reference HSF is fine. But, get into some heavy overclocking, and the stock Intel HSF runs out of steam pretty quickly. That's where aftermarket coolers come into play.

So yes, there is a point to upgrading your cooler assuming that you overclock.

Well, no. The entire argument is that by buying a big expensive cooler, you can overclock slightly more. Of course, this poses two problems, in that;

a) The additional overclock will be marginal, and will provide an insignificant boost. What do the best Q6600s get, anyway, 3.4GHz? 10% faster at raw processsing? That's nothing you're going to notice, especially once that raw performance has been hampered and hindered by all the other bottlenecks in place. And that's assuming that it's CPU temp that's limiting the overclock.

b) Had a faster CPU simply been bought in the first place, it would nullify the requirement for such a big expensive cooler that might possibly push the chip at little further than normal. Spending $150 to bring a $250 chip to the same level as a $300 chip is just pointless.


Cooling's not the issue it used to be. My E8400 does 4GHz with the stock cooler, those getting higher speeds, what are they really gaining? 5% with a $300 watercooling system? It's a false economy. Also, it's perhaps telling that Intel ship smaller coolers with the new 3GHz-plus E8000 line than they did with the sub-2GHz E4000. Cooling just isn't the issue it used to be, it would seem.

fasedww
02-17-08, 12:46 PM
Well, no. The entire argument is that by buying a big expensive cooler, you can overclock slightly more. Of course, this poses two problems, in that;

a) The additional overclock will be marginal, and will provide an insignificant boost. What do the best Q6600s get, anyway, 3.4GHz? 10% faster at raw processsing? That's nothing you're going to notice, especially once that raw performance has been hampered and hindered by all the other bottlenecks in place. And that's assuming that it's CPU temp that's limiting the overclock.

b) Had a faster CPU simply been bought in the first place, it would nullify the requirement for such a big expensive cooler that might possibly push the chip at little further than normal. Spending $150 to bring a $250 chip to the same level as a $300 chip is just pointless.


Cooling's not the issue it used to be. My E8400 does 4GHz with the stock cooler, those getting higher speeds, what are they really gaining? 5% with a $300 watercooling system? It's a false economy. Also, it's perhaps telling that Intel ship smaller coolers with the new 3GHz-plus E8000 line than they did with the sub-2GHz E4000. Cooling just isn't the issue it used to be, it would seem.
It's fun, makes you feel good, As long as you can afford it though.:D

Dragunov
02-17-08, 07:51 PM
What about this one:

http://www.bigbruin.com/2006/antazone_1 :D

Libertysyclone
02-18-08, 10:22 AM
Tuniq Tower 120 FTW! (nothing against you TRUE guys) I loved my TT120.

and to DXX I used my AMD cooler for 3 years on 5 different CPU's so I think that the $70 that I paid for it was more than enough for the OC'ing I got out of it.

Lenin
02-18-08, 07:49 PM
:D

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7936/thermalright1a1e3b9vu3.jpg

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/328/thermalright2a1f01drh8.jpg
http://xs224.xs.to/xs224/08082/lol-wut167.jpg (http://xs.to)

crainger
02-18-08, 08:03 PM
Thermalright is just taking the piss now.