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Absolution
02-12-08, 06:51 PM
I upgraded from my good old 7800 GTX to a 8800GT and to be honest, I'm not that impressed yet. I mean, every review site since the dawn of time has coined this card to be the best thing since sliced bread. Playwise, the card seems too similar. Instead of playing with 0x AA in most games and getting around 30-100fps, I'm playing with 4xAA and getting around 30-100fps (all other settings the same). The only reason I even turned up the AA was because lowering has absolutly no affect on fps. The minimum really kills it. In TF2, most battles go anywhere from 30-50fps, usually on the 30 side. WoW gets exactly the same FPS (not like I was looking/cared about that). When I snipe in games, I want 60+fps, not dropping to 30 when **** goes down.

And actually, some maps are even WORSE than my older card (TF2). I'm thinking there has to be something wrong.


Oh, and ya, it does get 2x the fps as my old card, only when I'm staring at a wall though =/

SeriTonin
02-12-08, 07:12 PM
Did you do a fresh install of your OS? Can your power supply handle the new card?

I went from a 7900gtx to a 8800 gts 320mb and saw a HUGE difference and then I went from that gts 320 mb to a 8800 gt 512 and saw a nice bump from that as well.

Something is definitely wrong.

Drivers updated?

Absolution
02-12-08, 07:22 PM
The card doesn't draw too much power, 600watt ps (it has 2x PCI-E 6pin connections, should be fine).

Drivers updated (uninstalled, rebooted, reinstalled, ill probably try to clean them and do a fresh install).

I haven't reinstalled the OS because its a pain in the butt to do and really, it shouldn't matter.

The thing behaves as though im CPU limited, honestly, changing settings has no effect on the FPS. But... I'm clearly not.


edit:
Both screenshots are maxed out settings except AA
http://aq.gamedeception.net/screenshots/fps/WoWScrnShot_021208_193438.jpg AAx1 28fps
http://aq.gamedeception.net/screenshots/fps/WoWScrnShot_021208_193500.jpg AAx8 26fps

Both pretty poor for such a good card. WoW is an old game, my old 6800GT settings could handel 4xAA at the same framerates. . .

SeriTonin
02-12-08, 07:25 PM
did you try drivercleaner? great prog, make sure you only use it in safe mode. I swear by it.

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=745

I understand the pain of re-installing the OS. So happy I have these back-up drivers now.

Absolution
02-13-08, 12:38 AM
Cleaned drivers, no effect =/

The highs are high, odn't get me wrong, but I could care less about going from 100fps to 200fps. . . . First time i've been disappointed in a GPU

Crow_Nest
02-13-08, 01:59 AM
Getting 30-100 FPS with 4x AA on this card is already better than 30-100 FPS with zero AA with your old card. This is already an improvement. Also if you try playing some of the more graphics intensive games like crysis you'll see a huge difference.

revbatboy
02-13-08, 05:28 PM
I went from a 7800 GTX to a 8800gt and was very impressed :luv:

Mr Bigman
02-13-08, 06:27 PM
Oh god, is this guy smoking something.

I had some 7800GTX's and went 8800GTX's and doing a rig with 8800GT's and their is a whole world difference here vim.

Make sure you have your chipset drivers updated too.

Enjoy your gaming cuz it gets better.

bacon12
02-13-08, 06:35 PM
I agree the 8800 GT is smokin. Reformat your install, and start fresh. It may be a pain, but I do so at least every 2 months. Bloat on top of bloat makes things really screwey.

Shamrock
02-13-08, 09:27 PM
If you're not too impressed with the 8800GT...Then I'll swap you even..you pay shipping for your's...I'll pay shipping for mine....deal? :D

Just to remind you, I have an eVGA 7900GT

SLippe
02-13-08, 09:35 PM
If you're not too impressed with the 8800GT...Then I'll swap you even..you pay shipping for your's...I'll pay shipping for mine....deal? :D

Just to remind you, I have an eVGA 7900GT
Same here! I have an 8500GT. ;)

Chiles4
02-14-08, 03:16 PM
With the popularity of the 8800 series, you should be able to find typical scores for 8800 cards for 3DMark05 and 3DMark06. I'd suggest that you run both those benchmarks and compare to typical scores.

When I first installed my 8800GTS 512, I ignored the "two-molex-to-6-pin-PCI-E" adapter included with my BFG card - since there was nothing in the box that said I had to use it. As a matter of fact, the enclosed documentation was a total joke akin to "here's how you install a card in a slot". I used the 6-pin PCI-E connector directly from my PCPower Silencer 750. BAD IDEA!!! The card didn't tell me that anything was wrong. I simply ended up with a 3DMark06 score of ~7500 when I was expecting around ~12000.

I quickly swapped in the enclosed two-molex-power-combiner and rebenched and ended up at ~12,300 in '06.

I REALLY doubt that you'd be cpu-bound. The G92 kicks SERIOUS ASS in either flavor (GT or GTS). I have a measly E2180 (2.0Ghz) with 1MB of cache - though I do have it clocked at 3.24Ghz. ;)

jcrox
02-14-08, 03:48 PM
I'm not overly impressed with the 8800GT either.... I just bought 2 of them and my life didn't change at all :thumbdwn: .... nothing. No hashish, no fuzzy bunnies... I don't get it :(

ATOJAR
02-14-08, 04:05 PM
I went from a 7800 GTX to a 8800gt and was very impressed :luv:

I went from a 8800 GTS 640MB and saw a nice difference!

7oPd4wG
02-14-08, 04:09 PM
I'm not overly impressed with the 8800GT either.... I just bought 2 of them and my life didn't change at all :thumbdwn: .... nothing. No hashish, no fuzzy bunnies... I don't get it :(

Hey if ya don't like them I'll swap you my BFG 8800GTXOC version for them. Mine is only a couple weeks old.

Medion
02-14-08, 06:04 PM
He's using a 19' LCD, which means he's likely at 1280x2014. Honestly, you're not going to get a gigantic jump at that res.

SlieTheSecond
02-15-08, 08:49 AM
Playing at a lower resolution on an old game, it wouldn't matter if you put in 10 GF 9 series cards you won't be seeing any improvement since it is all cpu limited anways.

WoW is a pretty crappy game to be testing out the latest video card on. Test it out on some of the latest gpu intensive games and see how it runs. (TF2 is probably more cpu Dependant than GPU?)


I went from a 8800 GTS 640 to 8800 GT and saw a nice improvement also.

hemmy
02-15-08, 09:06 AM
With the popularity of the 8800 series, you should be able to find typical scores for 8800 cards for 3DMark05 and 3DMark06. I'd suggest that you run both those benchmarks and compare to typical scores.

When I first installed my 8800GTS 512, I ignored the "two-molex-to-6-pin-PCI-E" adapter included with my BFG card - since there was nothing in the box that said I had to use it. As a matter of fact, the enclosed documentation was a total joke akin to "here's how you install a card in a slot". I used the 6-pin PCI-E connector directly from my PCPower Silencer 750. BAD IDEA!!! The card didn't tell me that anything was wrong. I simply ended up with a 3DMark06 score of ~7500 when I was expecting around ~12000.

I quickly swapped in the enclosed two-molex-power-combiner and rebenched and ended up at ~12,300 in '06.

I REALLY doubt that you'd be cpu-bound. The G92 kicks SERIOUS ASS in either flavor (GT or GTS). I have a measly E2180 (2.0Ghz) with 1MB of cache - though I do have it clocked at 3.24Ghz. ;)

Best advice I have read so far.

In my case, my BFG 8800GT works great with a PCIe cord straight from my Corsair 520 HX, but when I was using the splitter that came with the card if I didn't have each molex plugged into its own line, I got crap performance.

EciDemon
02-15-08, 09:08 AM
When I first installed my 8800GTS 512, I ignored the "two-molex-to-6-pin-PCI-E" adapter included with my BFG card - since there was nothing in the box that said I had to use it. As a matter of fact, the enclosed documentation was a total joke akin to "here's how you install a card in a slot". I used the 6-pin PCI-E connector directly from my PCPower Silencer 750. BAD IDEA!!! The card didn't tell me that anything was wrong. I simply ended up with a 3DMark06 score of ~7500 when I was expecting around ~12000.

I quickly swapped in the enclosed two-molex-power-combiner and rebenched and ended up at ~12,300 in '06.

Could someone please clarify this a bit ?... Im using the 6-pin PCI-E connector on my xilence 600w psu, my 8800GT did come with one of those two molex to 6pin converters..

hemmy
02-15-08, 09:10 AM
Read one post up, straight from the PSU works fine for me

EciDemon
02-15-08, 09:19 AM
Read one post up, straight from the PSU works fine for me

Yeah you must have posted at the same time as I did, it wasnt there before lol.

I dont think im loosing out on performance, I just got a little worried after reading that post as I also dismissed the splitter and ontop, his psu being more powerfull then mine.

SlieTheSecond
02-16-08, 01:16 AM
Could someone please clarify this a bit ?... Im using the 6-pin PCI-E connector on my xilence 600w psu, my 8800GT did come with one of those two molex to 6pin converters..

That splitter is there for two reasons.

1) Your psu does not have a 6-pin pci-e connector.
2) The PSU can't not supply sufficient power off of a single 6 pin. And each of the molex's would be connected to a separate rail off of the psu to supply sufficient power.

K007
02-16-08, 02:43 AM
The card doesn't draw too much power, 600watt ps (it has 2x PCI-E 6pin connections, should be fine).

Drivers updated (uninstalled, rebooted, reinstalled, ill probably try to clean them and do a fresh install).

I haven't reinstalled the OS because its a pain in the butt to do and really, it shouldn't matter.

The thing behaves as though im CPU limited, honestly, changing settings has no effect on the FPS. But... I'm clearly not.


edit:
Both screenshots are maxed out settings except AA
http://aq.gamedeception.net/screenshots/fps/WoWScrnShot_021208_193438.jpg AAx1 28fps
http://aq.gamedeception.net/screenshots/fps/WoWScrnShot_021208_193500.jpg AAx8 26fps

Both pretty poor for such a good card. WoW is an old game, my old 6800GT settings could handel 4xAA at the same framerates. . .

your in the middle of org...in WoW...what do you expect? 100 fps?:thumbdwn:

Absolution
02-17-08, 03:48 PM
your in the middle of org...in WoW...what do you expect? 100 fps?:thumbdwn:
I'd expect better than my old card.

And ya, another example, nothing going on in the immediate view... yet piss poor fps.

I'm thinking about formating, but I think its pointless, video drivers are in usermode in vista anywhere and it shouldn't make a difference.

8xCSAA (tried 4xMA, results were worse) 8x AA
Everything else on high (not very high)
motion blur disabled, along with HDR and vsync

something doesn't seem right, im going to install 3dmark and see if its in the realm of acceptable performance

Absolution
02-17-08, 05:16 PM
http://service.futuremark.com/resultAnalyzer.action?resultId=5300383&resultType=14 seems normal . . .

oh, and http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3140&p=11 - every benchmark is 2x the 7950GT which is very similar (if not better) than the 7800GTX, so ya, i was definitely expecting more, expecially at 1280x1024