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|MaguS|
02-14-08, 10:46 AM
I like the Hunter Class but I don't know if I want to start a new toon after playing a Hunter so long.

Well I joind your PVP Server so what would you recommend? :p

Tr1cK
02-14-08, 10:50 AM
I like the Hunter Class but I don't know if I want to start a new toon after playing a Hunter so long.

Hunters make leveling cake. I'd recommend looking at a feral Druid then if you want a change of pace.

Feral leveling goes like this:
Cat form>attack mob > mob dead > shift out to heal > shift back to cat.
or this if you have a hard hitting mob or more than one:
Bear form>attack mob > mob dead > shift out to heal > shift back to bear.
lol

My new toon is a hunter. The main reason I picked her is because Blood Elves are dead sexy and I already have played a Warrior, Shaman, and Druid up to 70.
The main thing slowing my leveling progression is trying to avoid that damn chicken mount at 40. I've been working Undercity rep up since level 20 and am only 2500 away from Exalted at level 39. :D

Well I joind your PVP Server so what would you recommend? :p
Druids are awesome. I'd probably level one as feral and then go balance and become a mages best friend. The only drawback is you have to be a cow on the Horde side. If you feel most comfortable as a hunter, then by all means make one. If you have The Burning Crusade, then I would recommend leveling in the Blood Elf lands as soon as you do your starting area quests which get you up to level 5-6. The new lands have great quest rewards and they are streamlined up to level 20 so you don't have to leave there until then. The only drawback is there are no warrior trainers there, but there is a druid trainer there.

If you are serious about staying on the server, I can float you a few gold and some bags to start with. Let me know your name and I'll put you on my friends list.

thor1182
02-14-08, 11:42 AM
yeah the BE area is really nice for leveling the 1 - 20.

I almost want a chicken mount for my druids because of how dumb it would look

Tr1cK
02-14-08, 11:45 AM
yeah the BE area is really nice for leveling the 1 - 20.

I almost want a chicken mount for my druids because of how dumb it would look

I don't think Tauren are eligible for the chicken mount. :thumbdwn:

Just imagine riding one in moonkin form lol!

thor1182
02-14-08, 12:00 PM
I don't think Tauren are eligible for the chicken mount. :thumbdwn:

Just imagine riding one in moonkin form lol!


I know... makes me sad. I have the nether ray mount for my feral druid... and he looks so dumb on it. I need the chicken mount to round out the set.

|MaguS|
02-14-08, 12:52 PM
Well im sorta liking the druid class. Gotta level the guy abit higher to see if I wana stick with it but its not bad at all. When do I get form shifting?

Characters name is Torlous, Cow Druid.

Tr1cK
02-14-08, 12:58 PM
Well im sorta liking the druid class. Gotta level the guy abit higher to see if I wana stick with it but its not bad at all. When do I get form shifting?

Characters name is Torlous, Cow Druid.

I'll escort you to the Blood Elf starting area if you have the expansion and when you hit level 6. I have a 70 orc shaman named Energeez, a 39 hunter Naenae, and a 29 druid Bullcephus. Energeez isn't on my main account, so I tend to use him most for dual-boxing and running instances to gear my toons.

Standard bear is 10
Aquatic form is 16
Cat form is 20
Travel form is 30
Dire bear is 40
Free flight form (must buy 150 riding skill first, aka epic land mount) is at 68

Moonkin and Tree Form are from 31 point talents in balance and resto trees.

You will want to only put points in feral while leveling though, all the way until you get mangle. Then, resto has great talents for feral druids. A 0/47/14 spec is the norm for ferals.

Cat form will be your bread and butter for a long time. Rogue that can heal.

This is how you want to spec up to level 21. It will make your cat form a lot more leveling friendly. You really will love the +30% speed while outdoors and the improved prowl.
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druid/talents.html?0000000000000000000000530220000000000 0000000000000000000000000

This is the standard 0/47/14 feral build.
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druid/talents.html?0000000000000000000000530321323221053 3125105503001000000000000

|MaguS|
02-14-08, 03:15 PM
The Cow's newbie area SUCKS. It bores me so bad... I keep switching the the Blood Elf Hunter I made...

Hunter's name is Zhio just incase im on him and not the Druid.

Tr1cK
02-14-08, 03:17 PM
The Cow's newbie area SUCKS. It bores me so bad... I keep switching the the Blood Elf Hunter I made...

Hunter's name is Zhio just incase im on him and not the Druid.
LOL ok

I will give you an escort later on this afternoon to Blood Elf area. I have to be careful for wife aggro as it is V-Day.

|MaguS|
02-14-08, 03:20 PM
Spend time with her, I got alot of calls to make today (yay for working all day).

nVJoe
02-14-08, 05:56 PM
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|MaguS|
02-14-08, 06:01 PM
Nice tool.

Dvahlish
02-14-08, 06:14 PM
Well im sorta liking the druid class. Gotta level the guy abit higher to see if I wana stick with it but its not bad at all. When do I get form shifting?

Characters name is Torlous, Cow Druid.
Seriously....stick with the druid, they are pretty damn awesome.
I know the Tauren starting area sux....and so do the barrens but the ghostlands are very cool, as is the suplcher and also Brill (undead starting area) the only problem being that every time you need to do training...your going to need to make your way back to Thunderbluff, which is a pain in the bum!

Im finding it hard to lvl my druid (shes only 15) because I fond everything so damn slow without a mount!

|MaguS|
02-14-08, 06:22 PM
Druids feel so weak in the beginning... I mean hunters just dominate the entire time through.

Dvahlish
02-14-08, 06:28 PM
Druids feel so weak in the beginning... I mean hunters just dominate the entire time through.
Really?
I have a Troll hunter and I dont particularily feel that way about her, but Im really not a fan of hunters to be honest.
I did find my druid felt quite weak until I got bear form.
Things are much easier now.
I just find the first 40 lvls such a grind in general, I have dont it a few times now and its just so dull!!
I dont mind the levelling once you get a mount :)

|MaguS|
02-14-08, 06:33 PM
I just kill alot quicker with my Hunter then my Druid it seems. I mean with my other Hunter I didn't die untill I hit 20 or so.

Dvahlish
02-14-08, 06:38 PM
I just kill alot quicker with my Hunter then my Druid it seems. I mean with my other Hunter I didn't die untill I hit 20 or so.

Yeh I undersdtand what you mean...well, with a hunter you are literally 2 opponents as such, you and your pet.
Druids just a different playing style, but even if they start out weak, they make up for it in later levels for sure :)

|MaguS|
02-14-08, 06:42 PM
The thing is just getting to those later levels...

Rakeesh
02-15-08, 06:20 AM
Cat form will be your bread and butter for a long time. Rogue that can heal.

And cure poison. And remove curse. And track allies. And mangle.

This is how you want to spec up to level 21. It will make your cat form a lot more leveling friendly. You really will love the +30% speed while outdoors and the improved prowl.
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druid/talents.html?0000000000000000000000530220000000000 0000000000000000000000000

This is the standard 0/47/14 feral build.
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druid/talents.html?0000000000000000000000530321323221053 3125105503001000000000000

I have changed my mind on many things as I have gone along and figured out what druids can and can't do. But, I think this is the final direction I will be pushing mine in for PVP spec:

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druid/talents.html?0100000000000000000000532321313221053 3105105503001000000000000

Nature's grasp is extremely important for BG and world PVP. It traps hunters pets and it traps rogues with very little action on your part. You can cast it from bear and cat without going to caster. It costs no energy, no rage, no mana. Only one talent point, it's so worth it. I can't tell you how many times I've royally screwed up a rogues battle plan with that. Hell it even helps with those times when you are just passing through an area and you have some mob on your butt and he won't go away. There is very little reason not to have it IMO.

Also I think heard somebody on this forum (don't remember who) say that shredding attacks and bleeds aren't very useful for solo pvp. Boy is that ever wrong. Most of the time I start a battle with a pounce, get behind and shred (double the damage of claw for only a little more energy) followed by rake, FFF, claw, (sometimes another rake,) then rip. After that I often back off and moonfire, then rejuvenate. That leaves them with 5 dots ticking their health away, while I can either gain some distance to end combat and re-stealth for another pounce, or shift to bear then charge and bash.

Tr1cK
02-15-08, 07:45 AM
That looks like a good spec Alpha, Nature's Grasp is valuable for PvP. The problem with it is that it can be trinketed out of. You are still low level and most likely aren't fighting against anyone that has a trinket.

Rakeesh
02-15-08, 02:25 PM
That looks like a good spec Alpha, Nature's Grasp is valuable for PvP. The problem with it is that it can be trinketed out of. You are still low level and most likely aren't fighting against anyone that has a trinket.

I have a trinket. Makes battles against hunters a cakewalk. But thats good, if they trinket out of that, I have plenty of other stuff to hit them with that they can't trinket out of for some time. Fortunately with my build, I don't depend very heavily on roots and stuns. They just allow me to quickly regain control over the battle, a second or two is all I really need most of the time.

Tr1cK
02-15-08, 02:29 PM
I have a trinket. But thats good, if they trinket out of that, I have plenty of other stuff to hit them with that they can't trinket out of for some time.
lol

Alpha, I admire your perseverance. :thumbsup:

Rakeesh
02-15-08, 02:37 PM
lol

Alpha, I admire your perseverance. :thumbsup:

You should have seen every one of my last few battles with huntards. Total slaughter :D I don't even really need to heal and I come out of the battle with more than 75% of my health.

Dvahlish
02-20-08, 11:52 PM
Nature's grasp is extremely important for BG and world PVP. It traps hunters pets and it traps rogues with very little action on your part. You can cast it from bear and cat without going to caster. It costs no energy, no rage, no mana. Only one talent point, it's so worth it. I can't tell you how many times I've royally screwed up a rogues battle plan with that. Hell it even helps with those times when you are just passing through an area and you have some mob on your butt and he won't go away. There is very little reason not to have it IMO.

Also I think heard somebody on this forum (don't remember who) say that shredding attacks and bleeds aren't very useful for solo pvp. Boy is that ever wrong. Most of the time I start a battle with a pounce, get behind and shred (double the damage of claw for only a little more energy) followed by rake, FFF, claw, (sometimes another rake,) then rip. After that I often back off and moonfire, then rejuvenate. That leaves them with 5 dots ticking their health away, while I can either gain some distance to end combat and re-stealth for another pounce, or shift to bear then charge and bash.

Remebering that once you hit 66 all of this is no longer going to be an issue for rogues.
Druids bothered me somewhat until I got cloak of shadows, teamed with Will of forsaken and the lovely trinket insignia of the horde and movement imobilisers and dots no longer bother me....
And being combat mace spec...a lot of the time I can out dps a druid as well :)