View Full Version : Analyst Expects Nvidia to Acquire AMD
walterman
02-14-08, 04:20 PM
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http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20080214105804_Analyst_Expects_Nvidia_to_Acquire_A MD_Despite_of_Chances_to_Lose_x86_License.html
I could see Intel donating funds to AMD.
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Great....GPU war would be over and we would be stuck with the same situation that Creative put us in. We would get a new video card on the market once every 3-5 years with shoddy driver support.
AngelGraves13
02-14-08, 05:24 PM
Great....GPU war would be over and we would be stuck with the same situation that Creative put us in. We would get a new video card on the market once every 3-5 years with shoddy driver support.
Or it could end up being the complete opposite! We could get multicore GPUs sooner and hell they might even make it so AMD can actually compete against Intel. ATi and NVIDIA together would pretty much combine the best of both worlds. Monthly high quality drivers and powerful hardware. Maybe the releases will be once every 18 months (something they've already said will happen), but the leap in performance in those 18 months will be greater than one every year. I think in the end, CPUs and GPUs will be one and the same. Intel is already working towards that, as is AMD...so it looks like it'll be NVIDIA vs. Intel. Would you rather Intel bought AMD? Well come to think of it...they probably can't. They can't be a monopoly. Maybe NVIDIA can actually fix AMD.
Or it could end up being the complete opposite! We could get multicore GPUs sooner and hell they might even make it so AMD can actually compete against Intel. ATi and NVIDIA together would pretty much combine the best of both worlds. Monthly high quality drivers and powerful hardware. Maybe the releases will be once every 18 months (something they've already said will happen), but the leap in performance in those 18 months will be greater than one every year. I think in the end, CPUs and GPUs will be one and the same. Intel is already working towards that, as is AMD...so it looks like it'll be NVIDIA vs. Intel. Would you rather Intel bought AMD? Well come to think of it...they probably can't. They can't be a monopoly. Maybe NVIDIA can actually fix AMD.
I think you're way too optimistic. :p
AngelGraves13
02-14-08, 05:49 PM
I think you're way too optimistic. :p
Well if I'm not...who will be?
I can be negative too!
In 20 years we'll all have to have RFID chips implanted in us as tracking devices. America (U.S.A.) will be replaced by the North American Union and all the borders will be opened for trade and further capitalization of North America. The dollar and pesos and canadian dollar will be replaced entirely by the Amero. Our country will become a police state and everything and everyone will be monitored 24/7 for "our own safety". You'll be detained indefinitely and tortured if they think you're a terrorist and your loved ones will never see you again. Aliens exist and they've been working in secret with the US government and other governments of the world. In exchange for some of their technology, we agree to allow abductions and we cover it up and lie about it so none is the wiser. Aliens will one day come to repopulate the planet and we'll be the sheep. They'll do so by either means of radiation, tampering with the water, or food, or any other means to cause genetic mutations in our bodies so that we resemble them and then they'll abduct us again and transfer their essence into our minds, thus killing all of us and taking over the world!
See...I can be negative too! Now I should run and hide before I either get a book deal, a cult following, or the government starts looking for me (again). lol
Thats will be .. weird heh! AMD buying ATI & then Nvidia buying AMD .. the smaller fish is being eaten by the bigger one :D
but yeah OTOH this could means the end of the GPU wars which is not good for us.
Eliminator
02-14-08, 07:52 PM
Thats will be .. weird heh! AMD buying ATI & then Nvidia buying AMD .. the smaller fish is being eaten by the bigger one :D
but yeah OTOH this could means the end of the GPU wars which is not good for us.
exactly which means nvidia can price their high end cards at whatever price they want to... if theres no good affordable cards then pc gaming will sink even lower
agentkay
02-14-08, 07:52 PM
Great stuff (for Nvidia), thats what I was expecting after their Ageia purchase. Sucks for the compertition but you gotta admit AMD can be acquired for a lot less money than a year ago. :)
methimpikehoses
02-14-08, 07:58 PM
exactly which means nvidia can price their high end cards at whatever price they want to... if theres no good affordable cards then pc gaming will sink even lower
However, nvidia has a vested interest in keeping PC gaming alive, so they will need to keep it affordable. Until consoles take over. :bleh:
FTC might rule that this maybe a monopolistic acquisition? ...
InqWoN1776
02-14-08, 10:38 PM
Maybe I'm wrong about this... Just my thoughts. Intel is entering the discrete gpu market and that changes things up. Yes, if nv/ati were under one roof right now there would be pretty much a monopoly in the highend. However, the graphics market as a whole and Intel has majority share. Intel has so much money compared to these companies. When they enter the discrete market, I don't think nv /ati as separate companies could "profitably" compete with Intel once they ramp up competent solutions. AMD has in the past been able to compete but the majority of the time they haven't been very profitable in doing so. There needs to be a company that can sustain healthy competition with Intel and be profitable. I may be giving Intel too much credit so far as their ability to make an enthusiast level and discrete graphics solutions. However, they have: a) probably the most advanced fab process in the world. b) the money to do what they want. AMD can't remain a company very long mounting debt like they are but the same thing has been said of GM.
pkirby11
02-14-08, 10:58 PM
Did anyone read that article, this would be bad period. According to the article the x86 license AMD has is non-transferable which means that NVIDIA wold loose the ability to make processors, so then that mean one video card company, NVIDIA and one chip maker, Intel. This is bad for everyone all around, I hope it doesn't happen and I hope the FTC shoots it down if they try.
Did anyone read that article, this would be bad period. According to the article the x86 license AMD has is non-transferable which means that NVIDIA wold loose the ability to make processors, so then that mean one video card company, NVIDIA and one chip maker, Intel. This is bad for everyone all around, I hope it doesn't happen and I hope the FTC shoots it down if they try.
Actually if they buy AMD Intel might be forced to give the license to NVidia because of all the monopoly lawsuits.
x86 was developed by Intel or IBM?
MMX etc are intel specific right but x86?
x86 was developed by Intel or IBM?
MMX etc are intel specific right but x86?
x86 belongs to Intel.
AMD has one of a small handful of licenses to produce them (they got it because they were doing manufacturing for Intel back in the 386 days). Via has a license as well (from when they bought Cyrix). There's one other floating around out there, too, I think.
Madpistol
02-15-08, 12:11 AM
So Nvidia will be competing against Intel? THAT'S IT????
Wow... we're boned. :headexplode:
pkirby11
02-15-08, 12:23 AM
Actually if they buy AMD Intel might be forced to give the license to NVidia because of all the monopoly lawsuits.
I doubt it, most articles I read about this all say NVIDIA would loose the license, this is sad news indeed if true. I really hope not, otherwise we are all screwed when it comes to choices.
killahsin
02-15-08, 01:52 AM
if that were the case the feds would step in if intel did not offer a liscense to nvidia. Secondly if nvidia bought amd intel would ramp up its discrete gpu r&d so fast it wouldnt be funny. So there would still be 2 companies. But eventually regardless what happens to amd, intel vs nvidia is and will be the future of the gpu/cpu wars.
pkirby11
02-15-08, 02:59 AM
if that were the case the feds would step in if intel did not offer a liscense to nvidia. Secondly if nvidia bought amd intel would ramp up its discrete gpu r&d so fast it wouldnt be funny. So there would still be 2 companies. But eventually regardless what happens to amd, intel vs nvidia is and will be the future of the gpu/cpu wars.
First don't get to excited, nothings happened yet. Second, do you really want a world with one company selling high end video cards? Honestly why does anyone see this as a good idea, when was the last time Intel had a high end graphics product? If NVIDIA buy AMD/ATI we loose big time, monopolies are bad.
I really don't see this happening and if the FTC steps in at all it will be to stop the deal all together. They won't approve it because it makes NVIDIA a monopoly one way or another. I'm keeping my fingers crossed this is just a stupid rumor by some nut job analyst because I really don't see any good coming from a merger of this kind.
NoWayDude
02-15-08, 03:27 AM
I can see Nvida buying VIA, for the purposes of a x86 licence. AMD, no. Too risky, too expensive
wont be good for gpu wars..
Well some will finally get there wish. For the past year and half its like everyone wanted AMD and ATI to rollover and die.:thumbdwn:
Riptide
02-15-08, 01:00 PM
lol
I know a couple fanboys who will be swearing off PC gaming and PCs in general because they hate Intel and NVidia. :p
pkirby11
02-16-08, 12:42 AM
So I read an interesting article on Toms Hardware about this, it seems that NVIDIA was going to be bought by AMD back in the day but the two CEO's argued as to who would be the CEO of the company and it fell through. It seems to due to several reasons, NVIDIA probably won't get the green light to buy AMD/ATI not to mention the debt they would incur which might be to much even for NVIDIA.
However it sounds like IBM might be the winners if AMD goes up for sale. That I wouldn't mind as much but time will tell. I really hope AMD can just stick it out and come back like they have so many times before in the past, I miss the days of having an AMD CPU. :) On a different note, sounds like NVIDIA or IBM would get a hold of the X86 license, it seems that the license will only transfer to US companies though.
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