PDA

View Full Version : Nvidia GeForce 8 and Geforce 9 Series


amk21
02-21-08, 02:11 PM
So as the title indicates, I am curious about when the title of this section is going to change from 7 and 8 series to 8 and 9, and move the 7 series talk to the legacy. With the first 9 series card officially launched today, and with more on the horizon, I believe that it is time to dump the 7 series, and look to the future.

What do you guys think?

mojoman0
02-21-08, 02:16 PM
next month?

ChaoticNick
02-21-08, 04:22 PM
I agree with mojoman, it would be better to change it next month once the 9800GX2 and all that actually comes out. Yea 9600 is out, but still.

edit: nvm, it's changed.

Lenin
02-21-08, 04:35 PM
I think we can do this when the first *actual* 9000 series card comes out.
9600 is just an 8800gt with a few disabled pipelines, nothing else, and 9800gx2 is just two 8800gt sandwiched together. Nothing new about these two.

Besides that, why didn't call nVidia the g92-based cards already 9000 series, rather than confusing people with "8800 gts 640mb" and "8800 gts 512mb"?
That would've made much more sense than arbitrarily calling some g92 cards 8000 series and some other 9000 series.

$n][pErMan
02-21-08, 08:53 PM
8 series was a huge jump... 9 series looks likes it going to be just a small little step :(

Digital_Trans
02-21-08, 08:58 PM
Like I've been trying to say... it will be a complete waste of time and money for me but not for someone else.

AngelGraves13
02-21-08, 09:18 PM
The 9 series is nothing more than a refresh of the 8 series. The second generation is always better, and for those who haven't gotten a Geforce 8, the 9 is a good upgrade. For those who have an 8 series card...they can skip the 9 series all together.

I wonder why Nvidia even bothered to release the 9 series. They should have just moved on the 10 series or Geforce X or whatever the hell they're gonna call it.

I'm not even sure it's worth me upgrading to a 9 series. I don't really see the point. There's hardly ANY new features compared to the 8 series and the performance is about the same. It does seem that performance per watt is up about 25% though, maybe more.

But hell...maybe I'll sit this one out too. My Geforce 7 is getting old but there's nothing worth me spending money on. There isn't even DisplayPort support.

$n][pErMan
02-21-08, 09:46 PM
GeForce 8 to 9 looks to be about the same as it was from GeForce 6 to 7.

amk21
02-21-08, 09:52 PM
[pErMan']GeForce 8 to 9 looks to be about the same as it was from GeForce 6 to 7.
Not even, more like 7800 to 7900. Almost exactly what ati did with the 2 series to the three series.

amk21
02-22-08, 11:33 PM
Wow this is the first thing that I have accomplished in my entire life. I feel needed:wonder:

Bokishi
02-22-08, 11:35 PM
[pErMan']GeForce 8 to 9 looks to be about the same as it was from GeForce 6 to 7.

Nah, the 7800 owned the 6800 really bad. The 9 series doesn't seem as such compared to the 8 series

methimpikehoses
02-22-08, 11:40 PM
Wow this is the first thing that I have accomplished in my entire life. I feel needed:wonder:

What have you done? :wonder:

AngelGraves13
02-23-08, 02:47 AM
Not even, more like 7800 to 7900. Almost exactly what ati did with the 2 series to the three series.

Well considering that the 9600 (G94) is half a G92 (8800) but performs about 75% the same, then the new 9800 (new G92 based card) should be about 75% faster than the 8800 while having the same number of stream processors. That's a nice improvement if you ask me. Features wise...nothing new.

Zapablast05
02-23-08, 02:54 AM
I think Nvidia has reached a fork in a road, where one leads to a dead and and the other leads to a better technology and innovation. Right now, they took the one that leads to the dead end. I remember when they came out with the 8800GTX/Ultra, I was like, "Holy ****..there it is, the fastest GPU in the world." Now, it's more like this, "Holy ****, another rebranding of the same old thing."

I want the 8 series to be like the 7 series before Nvidia made the fastest GPU in the world, that way we can expect a new card to be dubbed the fastest card in the world, and it sure as hell doesn't seem like the 9800GX2 is going to take the throne. The 8 series is the most confusing/worse launch, everything is mixed up out of whack. The (initial) 9800 became the 8800GTS G92. Nvidia needs to take their head out of their ass and put hard(er) work into their research to develop something new.

AngelGraves13
02-23-08, 02:59 AM
They're holding their secret weapon for the Geforce X series. If they're even gonna call it that. They might as well drop the Geforce name and move on to something else. How many Geforces can you have?

amk21
02-23-08, 06:09 AM
They're holding their secret weapon for the Geforce X series. If they're even gonna call it that. They might as well drop the Geforce name and move on to something else. How many Geforces can you have?
Yep they are moving on to a new naming scheme, with a supposed launch date this summer(around the same time as the R70). It gonna be called the gt200 series, not sure where that came from, but should see some real innovation come out of this card.

Richteralan
02-23-08, 02:28 PM
I think Nvidia has reached a fork in a road, where one leads to a dead and and the other leads to a better technology and innovation. Right now, they took the one that leads to the dead end. I remember when they came out with the 8800GTX/Ultra, I was like, "Holy ****..there it is, the fastest GPU in the world." Now, it's more like this, "Holy ****, another rebranding of the same old thing."

I want the 8 series to be like the 7 series before Nvidia made the fastest GPU in the world, that way we can expect a new card to be dubbed the fastest card in the world, and it sure as hell doesn't seem like the 9800GX2 is going to take the throne. The 8 series is the most confusing/worse launch, everything is mixed up out of whack. The (initial) 9800 became the 8800GTS G92. Nvidia needs to take their head out of their ass and put hard(er) work into their research to develop something new.
wow dude
WTG your conspiracy theory!:headexplode:

Lenin
02-23-08, 03:38 PM
For those who have an 8 series card...they can skip the 9 series all together.
Exactly.

I'm not even sure it's worth me upgrading to a 9 series. I don't really see the point. There's hardly ANY new features compared to the 8 series and the performance is about the same.
That's because the 9 series is just a rebadged 8 series (g92) with added 3-sli support.

Zapablast05
02-23-08, 03:55 PM
wow dude
WTG your conspiracy theory!:headexplode:



I'll be here all night :).

Ayepecks
02-23-08, 04:06 PM
Exactly.


That's because the 9 series is just a rebadged 8 series (g92) with added 3-sli support.
Agreed. I'm just waiting for the next series... the one which will actually be an improvement :)

john19055
02-24-08, 01:13 AM
I don't imangine Nvidia is in no hurry to put out a ultimate card ,the only competition is the 3870x2 and two 8800GT beats that ,and if they put out a 9800GTX based on the G92 with 128 shaders and 16 or 24 ROPs then it is going to be quite a bit faster then the 8800Ultra .If the 9600GT is any guide to what the 9800GT can be ,then it should be a lot faster then the 8800GTX.why would they want to go with a totally new architect when they can milk all they can out of this one.AMD is not pushing them to ,and besides Nvidia always does this 7800GTX to 7900GTX,you can't really blame them for milking everthing they can out of a architect that has done well for them and besides that the 9800GT or GTX or whatever it is going to be called is going to be a lot faster then the 8800GTX,build on the new 65mm with more then likely 128 shader and a higher texture fill rate of 60 or so ,it should be at least 50% faster then the 8800GTX IMO.

K007
02-24-08, 05:14 AM
I just hope they wont release them with...like what they had with the gf7 series awhile back..and if i am not mistaken the gf8 also had similar issues...

I am sure everyone should remember the GF79xx series having like ****ed up memory where the card would become a dud after heavy use :/.