GeForce FX 6800

[panzaman]

November 2002:
ARE YOU ready? The era of cinematic graphics is upon us.

Jan 2003:
Err, well, it will be soon.

April 2003:
Or, uhm, maybe not really, but we can show you how it might have looked

May 2003:
Well, forget that ..we are now really going to show u the biggest revolution in graphic ever

[dohcmark8]

I, personally think the 6800 will outperform the R390 by alot :eek:. Remember the 6800 is nVIDIA's revenge for ATi's 6 months of high-end dominance.

July 2003, this will HAPPEN! ---\/

5600FX engineers: :banghead:

6800FX engineers: :jumping:

R390 engineers: :nutkick:

(This is me, at 7am on a monday morning :eek:.)

[Hanners]

Originally posted by dohcmark8
I, personally think the 6800 will outperform the R390 by alot :eek:. Remember the 6800 is nVIDIA's revenge for ATi's 6 months of high-end dominance.

R390 is shooting for twice the speed of the R300 from what I've heard, so that's probably unlikely.

However NV35 should easily beat R390 to market.

I still have my doubts that IQ is going to be improved over what NV30 offers though, which I think is going to be the one big disappointment/disadvantage of NV35.

[panzaman]

...nVidia IQ has been the same since GeForce3 GPU, I think we should start talking about a different IQ interpretation rather than lack of it.

A bit like two guitars, an Ibanez and a Fender, they both make a stratocaster model but each sound different. U wouldn't say one is better than he other (although somebody could argue on that) u just say they sound different.

ATI has it's own inerpretation of AF, AA etc. nVidia a different one, so logically the choice is left to the user.

[vampireuk]

Originally posted by panzaman
logically the choice is left to the user.

So fan boys should stop bashing the user over which choice they made;)

[Bopple]

Precisely speaking, ati AA is the better.
As for AF, it remains left to users. (i prefer nvidia's though except for aggressive mode)

[marcocom]

Originally posted by panzaman
November 2002:
ARE YOU ready? The era of cinematic graphics is upon us.

Jan 2003:
Err, well, it will be soon.

April 2003:
Or, uhm, maybe not really, but we can show you how it might have looked

May 2003:
Well, forget that ..we are now really going to show u the biggest revolution in graphic ever

thats pretty humor =P jaded, but its true tho.

[muzz]

Originally posted by dohcmark8
I, personally think the 6800 will outperform the R390 by alot :eek:. Remember the 6800 is nVIDIA's revenge for ATi's 6 months of high-end dominance.

July 2003, this will HAPPEN! ---\/

5600FX engineers: :banghead:

6800FX engineers: :jumping:

R390 engineers: :nutkick:

(This is me, at 7am on a monday morning :eek:.)

Well I'm glad you "THINK" it will........ especially with no facts to back it up........we'll see, but don't you think you are putting a lot of faith in the same crew that spewed BS for AT LEAST the last 7 months?
I wouldn't put my $ on that personally........ then again I guess I value $.

[Sazar]

and card wars episode II : attack of the refreshes starts :D

lightsabres @ the ready...

[GlowStick]

Originally posted by muzz
Well I'm glad you "THINK" it will........ especially with no facts to back it up........we'll see, but don't you think you are putting a lot of faith in the same crew that spewed BS for AT LEAST the last 7 months?
I wouldn't put my $ on that personally........ then again I guess I value $.

How can you say "i dont trust nvidia to make a great product?"

to put it bluntly, buying ATi is trusting a compnay that has spewed out BS products + drivers for the past 10+ years. Then their PR says "hey dont judge us from past products is unfair, we are diffrent, really!"

[scott123]

I better question is......is Nvidia ready this time?

I'm not an ATI fan-boy, just happen to be running one right now. I'm still a Nvidiot. Hopefully Nvidia will get it right this time.

[Sazar]

Originally posted by GlowStick
How can you say "i dont trust nvidia to make a great product?"

to put it bluntly, buying ATi is trusting a compnay that has spewed out BS products + drivers for the past 10+ years. Then their PR says "hey dont judge us from past products is unfair, we are diffrent, really!"

blaming the drivers is fair... to blame the products themselves is being extremely shortsighted..

ati has had a following and a niche in the market for a while because of the products it puts out...

the driver support may not have been great once but that has changed... however the AIW boards have always been top notch and better than most of the products the competition (not just nvidia) puts out...

BS drivers in the past... yes... that is a given... certain configurations had problems... but the hardware itself was quite good...

[Hellbinder]

I, personally think the 6800 will outperform the R390 by alot . Remember the 6800 is nVIDIA's revenge for ATi's 6 months of high-end dominance.

July 2003, this will HAPPEN! ---\/

5600FX engineers:

6800FX engineers:

R390 engineers:

(This is me, at 7am on a monday morning .)

Oh please.... :rolleyes:

From what I have seen the Nv35 is not really going to outperform a Stock 9800pro by a significant margin (but yes it will outperform it in most situations, quality is another issue altogether though). Let alone the R390. 2x more speed than the R300. Think again. In al honestly thats a little to slow of an estament. Closer to 3x faster based on Raw specs alone.

[Hellbinder]

to put it bluntly, buying ATi is trusting a compnay that has spewed out BS products + drivers for the past 10+ years. Then their PR says "hey dont judge us from past products is unfair, we are diffrent, really!"

Ati's products have been great for many years. Its their Drivers that they neve put the same effort in until recently. So while you do have somewhat of a point i disagree with the general sense of your statement.

On the other hand, Nvidia imo.. has put out mass market inferior products that only *seemed* to be better because of their Speed in basic games. This is at least partly due to their Very Fine Driver team. However, Once ATi's Driver team was stocked with Quality Draft picks and Seasoned Veterans.. The TRue nature of the Years of *Rehashed* *Repackaged* Nvidia hardware cought up with them..... And they are paying the price now.

[saturnotaku]

Originally posted by Hellbinder
Ati's products have been great for many years. Its their Drivers that they neve put the same effort in until recently. So while you do have somewhat of a point i disagree with the general sense of your statement.

So you don't consider drivers part of the "products?" That makes no sense. What's the point of having highly capable hardware if you don't have the software to take advantage of it? The card itself and drivers seem to go hand-in-hand. This is something ATI has finally realized after all these years. And I have to say they have done a darn good job of making up for lost time.

[mreman4k]

Originally posted by CoWBoY
Why do people insist on posting a reply only after the person has left the forum?

Is it fear of confrontation? I have noticed that happens very often with certain posters.

:confused:

This is the internet...F a confrontation...anyway Geforce 6800 looks like it will kick some A-S-S. Great product

[vampireuk]

Originally posted by CoWBoY
lol... it is one of the fastest ways to get an answer, why not reply right after your reply has been answered?

Because they have other things to be doing than just sitting here arguing with people.

[StealthHawk]

Originally posted by CoWBoY
lol... it is one of the fastest ways to get an answer, why not reply right after your reply has been answered?

Because they aren't sitting there waiting for someone to reply to them?

[Ady]

Originally posted by panzaman
...A bit like two guitars, an Ibanez and a Fender, they both make a stratocaster model but each sound different. U wouldn't say one is better than he other (although somebody could argue on that) u just say they sound different.

Please don't talk about Musical Instruments when it's rather obvious you have no clue.

[Sazar]

Originally posted by saturnotaku
So you don't consider drivers part of the "products?" That makes no sense. What's the point of having highly capable hardware if you don't have the software to take advantage of it? The card itself and drivers seem to go hand-in-hand. This is something ATI has finally realized after all these years. And I have to say they have done a darn good job of making up for lost time.

as a complete product you are right... but when the statement 'faulty hardware AND faulty drivers' is made that is a tad incorrect.. :)

claiming the drivers were not up to notch @ one point is perfectly legit as everyone in the industry knows there was a long patch where the drivers did not do much to help much :)

that has changed over the past couple of years as the emphasis has shifted and the people in the teams have been changed...

[panzaman]

Originally posted by Ady
Please don't talk about Musical Instruments when it's rather obvious you have no clue.

I was keeping the example understandable for everybody I didn't want to go in a:
look at the effect of the Floyd Rose on the tuning
look at the power of the Hambuker
the pick up on the bridge
the cobination of pick ups
the quality of the strings
the wood of the body
the type of amplifier
etc. etc.

[Typedef Enum]

I've been playing the electric since I was a kid. I'm now 31 years old, and have been playing my Ibanez for the last 7 years now. This guitar replaced my last one...a Gibson Les Paul Custom, cherry sunburst a-la Jimmy Page, though he typically used Standards.

Without a doubt, the Ibanez is the most versatile guitar...and it doesn't weigh 50 pounds either :)

[borntosoul]

but does the ibanez have 'soul' :) im still looking for a good les paul gold top but i havent found one i liked yet

[borntosoul]

oups this is a computer forum after all, well damn that nv35 better be good, 28 gigs of bandwidth sounds cool, thats 3 times more than an 4600! anyway i hope it comes out in the next 2 months or else people will be really pissed off (including me). ive been dreaming of owning my first full high end card, ive always bought midrange hardware and i feel the need to splurge, damn waste of money but i love it

[muzz]

Fair enough on the troubles that used to plague ATi........ they were never really ready to be in the high end market with the staff they had.

From the looks of things I believe that has past, as it seems pretty obvious to me that over the last few years they have turned things around quite a bit........

Like a dog getting rid of his fleas.:D