Good measure against music piracy

[eL_PuSHeR]

Escorzo a Spanish punk band have released themselves their new album on CD and it only costs 1€. If all music companies would do the same...

[SnakeEyes]

:thumbsup: 100% right. Too bad the record labels don't understand this. (That being that it's overpriced CDs and arrogantly trying to dictate the end user's choice of how to listen to their music that is really killing sales of their products.)

[1stFlight]

Exactly, how to they cut and album charge nearly $20 yet the artist only sees $1 of it? And they call us thieves?

Read the writing on the walls, give the people what they want

1) Choice, there is no reason people shouldn't be able to go to a website or a store, pick the songs they want and have them burned to a custom CD, legally.

2) Price, I think everyone is wondering where that other 19 dollars goes off to...

Fullfull those requests, and watch the piracy drop.

EDIT: Of course if the record execs were paying any kind of attention, when Napster came out they would have bought it, turned it into a pay service, and derailed the whole swapping mess, intead of trying to attack them. Now it's engrained in our culture. Talk about an uphill battle.

[Edge]

Wow, I want to buy that album just because the price is right, even if I don't like the music. I can understand *some* CDs costing $15 (like game music soundtracks, which won't sell many copies), but when Britney Spears, or more acuratly the record company that releases the CD, thinks that $20 for a music CD is reasonable, they deserve to be pirated. Especially when they KNOW that they're going to sell millions of copies of it.

[ASCI Blue]

Last I read (so I could be wrong) the musicians don't see even a buck from CD sales, just a few cents. They make their money in concerts.

[dohcmark8]

I would pay $20 for a Eminem CD, he produces emotional music which touches you, but all those lip-synching ****heads (Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera), dont deserve a penny, they get paid to appear and lip-sing other people music and words, which IMO is, sadly 95% of artists. :eek:

[LORD-eX-Bu]

aaahhh! I hate eminem! So damn annoying! I hate his voice, I hate his face, I hate his music!

You don't know how much I hate it whenever any of his crap comes on TV or the radio. Eminem sucks!:fu:

[vampireuk]

Originally posted by [eNv]-LORD-eX-Bu
aaahhh! I hate eminem! So damn annoying! I hate his voice, I hate his face, I hate his music!

You don't know how much I hate it whenever any of his crap comes on TV or the radio. Eminem sucks!:fu:

Damn straight:argh:

[sytaylor]

I tend to find those who hate him believethe media hype about him, and thats about as wise as running with scissors.

He does write music to make money, but he also writes music from the heart, with emotion that you can feel and its undeniable. Thus making him far better than your average Jay Z type who twitters on about all their money all the time.

[vampireuk]

It depends on if you like that music, and what media hype? The daily mail has postal2 to rant about;) Lets not forget he cried and cried and cried about people downloading his music. If he made it worth buying on the otherhand:angel:

[Chalnoth]

I think I'll just throw a little rant here about the music industry:

How can they possibly claim that they've lost so much money due to piracy?

Do they really expect that everybody who has ever downloaded a song off the 'net would have ever paid full price for it, if downloading wasn't an option? Chances are, most of those who download MP3's would never have purchased those CD's anyway. Or, at the very least, would have purchased far, far fewer total songs than the total number of MP3's they have downloaded.

In short, I don't think these RIAA and MPAA complaints on losing money are worth a grain of salt.

The only possible complaint would come from the sale of bootlegged copies of media. But file sharing programs do not facilitate that.

[Sazar]

Originally posted by vampireuk
It depends on if you like that music, and what media hype? The daily mail has postal2 to rant about;) Lets not forget he cried and cried and cried about people downloading his music. If he made it worth buying on the otherhand:angel:

if you don't like the music... don't buy it :)

thats the advantage of living in a capitalist country... you have that choice to make :D

on the other hand if you claim to be a big fan... buy... :)

downloading the choons is not a way to show support... specially when the CD's are coming out with DVD extra's now...

[vampireuk]

Originally posted by Sazar
if you don't like the music... don't buy it :)

I don't;)

[Son Goku]

You don't know if you like something or not until you've heard it...and once you buy it they have your cash and it's too late. Not to mention the one good song and the rest that are crap on a CD.

But honestly, people can buy because they downloaded first and decided they did like. At current prices, people wouldn't necessarily be willing to take a chance with a costly unknown...

But all artists aren't speaking on the same side as the RIAA and some have spoken out against. They've even said that if they really wanted to help artists, then the RIAA could put an end to some rather draconian measures in an artist's contracts which allow them to be as endentured servants to the industry. Even if they want to release their own music for download to give people a sampling...with the RIAA they can't. And if they want to make a demo of their music...nope the record label owns their voice too.

This isn't so much about piracy as it is about control. I remember back in the Voodoo 3 newsgroup there was this one poster who had indicated he was speaking in favor of a program in which for downloaded music the artist would be payed directly (like 10 cents a song or something), albeit the RIAA who is not involved in putting it on the net or hosting the servers wouldn't see a dime.

He reported sometime back he received threatening contact from the RIAA which essentially told him to sit down and shut up...it doesn't matter if artists get payed if they don't. Of course if they don't assist in the release of a distribution channel...they shouldn't be allowed to demand recompence for the labor of another. This is as anti-competitive and perhaps should be treated as much an anti-trust question, as when the US Postal Service was trying to push for payment on email sent. Their argument was that as people use email, they're supposedly stealing money from the USPS because people don't write as many letters anymore.

Yes, the RIAA arguably has as much of a monopolistic control on music in this country as Microsoft does on desktop operating systems. True there are some independent artists, but true there is also Linux. And yet in the main... And as to their differences, let me see. Microsoft is a single company, and the RIAA a money grabbing, Conress lobbying, exploitive cartel? Hmm :D

[1stFlight]

Leave it to Apple to get it right!
http://www.apple.com/music/

Talk about a step in the right direction, .99 a song, choose the ones you want, create your own CD's or download to your comp.... too bad it's a few years late,but hopefully it's better late than never.

[Chalnoth]

Originally posted by 1stFlight
Leave it to Apple to get it right!
http://www.apple.com/music/
There have been other websites offering this for a long time. I seriously, seriously doubt Apple was the first.

A quick google search turned up:
http://mp3.about.com/cs/buymp3music/

Update:
Heh....just noticed, this is a brand-new service from Apple (they certainly weren't close to the first...). Some other websites have been doing it for years.

[madthumbs]

.99 a song is outrageous. That would be >$10 a disk without packaging/ media! No thanks, I'll stick to DD 5.1 and DTS audio for free ;)

[1stFlight]

Actually they blew it, I just tried to get a use their store... received a "sorry Apples only msg"

http://www.apple.com/music/store/launch/message.html

Yeah, I'm not about to fork out the cash to buy an Apple when I can build two top of the line Athlons for the same price. Bah, oh well.

Originally posted by madthumbs
.99 a song is outrageous. That would be >$10 a disk without packaging/ media! No thanks, I'll stick to DD 5.1 and DTS audio for free ;)