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stncttr908
04-28-03, 12:01 PM
I guess they figure the way for people like me to stop wasting time in class is to block EVERY IMAGE ON EVERY WEBSITE. I'll show them.

p.s. Microsoft Photo Editor sucks. It can't even save a simple gif image correctly. :rolleyes:

DaveW
04-28-03, 02:14 PM
Can't you just use one of those web based proxies?

netviper13
04-28-03, 03:46 PM
You know what I find works fairly well for getting around school filters? Altavista's Babel translator.

Our school installed a new policy-router this year that blocked almost anything and everything, so naturally the first thing our networking class did was try to find a way around the thing. The filter wisely blocks all web proxies, but of course couldn't block such an educational tool as the translator. Turns out it works very well as a proxy if you just put in the URL and tell it to translate from some foreign language to english. Of course it can produce some rather strange translations, but it's usually very successful.

stncttr908
04-28-03, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by netviper13
You know what I find works fairly well for getting around school filters? Altavista's Babel translator.

Our school installed a new policy-router this year that blocked almost anything and everything, so naturally the first thing our networking class did was try to find a way around the thing. The filter wisely blocks all web proxies, but of course couldn't block such an educational tool as the translator. Turns out it works very well as a proxy if you just put in the URL and tell it to translate from some foreign language to english. Of course it can produce some rather strange translations, but it's usually very successful.
Thanks I'll have to try that tomorrow. :afro:

Son Goku
04-29-03, 12:47 PM
You can always bring your own proxy on a floppy disk, and then set the browser (if they hadn't blocked you out of IE or Netscape properties) to browse through local host (or 127.0.0.1) at port 8080 is the default.

Now the thing with JAP (Java Anonymous Proxy), and it's small enough to fit on a floppy, is that

- it runs locally on the PC you're on. Therefore they can't block it by online access...they'd have to forbit you from launching apps on the local PC.

- I think you can just install it to the a: drive and carry it with you. I might be mistaken, but because it's a Java program, I don't think it requires any registry entries or what not. I could check in regedt32 if you'd like however.

- It's an encrypting proxy...therefore everything would leave the PC your at in encrypted format. Their servers couldn't recognize it unless they could decrypt or decipher it first.

- It's actually encrypted multiple times, and because it's using a mix proxy service, the proxy removes one layer of encryption and spits the packet out in a different order then the packets were received so as to defeat attempts at traffic analysis. The decryption also changes the appearance (and size?) of the packets as they're spit out in a different random order then they were recieved.

- It's passed to the next proxy server in the chain where the process repeats until it reaches the last and goes to destination.

You can find it here

http://anon.inf.tu-dresden.de/index_en.html

Of course they could block the IP address to the first mix. But thing is, when trying to get around this stuff...don't leave bread crumbs. Make sure to take your floppy with you, and be sure to totally purge the web cache, delete all cookies, the browsers history, all auto-complete stuff in IE, the works. When they come back, let them see an empty browser with no sign it was even used....at least to the degree most people would know to dig... Of course the less you discuss at school how you get around...and keep mums the word, the better...

omghi2u
04-29-03, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by netviper13
You know what I find works fairly well for getting around school filters? Altavista's Babel translator.

Our school installed a new policy-router this year that blocked almost anything and everything, so naturally the first thing our networking class did was try to find a way around the thing. The filter wisely blocks all web proxies, but of course couldn't block such an educational tool as the translator. Turns out it works very well as a proxy if you just put in the URL and tell it to translate from some foreign language to english. Of course it can produce some rather strange translations, but it's usually very successful. All it needs is an english to english translator :lol:. Cuz' babelfish = crap. I once failed my spanish project cuz' that thing couldn't do it right.

stncttr908
04-29-03, 05:42 PM
Well, I remembered that it WAS running behind a proxy already, so I just disabled it and everything works for now. I'm sure that they'll change that, because that makes it much too easy. They go from one internet blocker to another, first it was netfilter, then superscout, then netminder or something, then back to superscout a few days ago.

By the way, all computers have a program called Deep Freeze which makes an image of the drive and restores it to that upon restart. It sucks usually but comes in handy in cases like this.

netviper13
04-29-03, 06:14 PM
I've heard of that Deep Freeze program, our school is going to order that at the end of next year. Our *sarcasm* brilliant */sarcasm* tech director for our school district has decided to replace all of the Compaq desktop machines in the district with Apple laptops by 2005. A laptop for every student and staff member in the high school. Well he's at least not naive enough to forget that kids are kids, and they plan to install Deep Freeze on each laptop.

He has also decided to abandon the 100mbit network we have running through our school (fiber backbone, hehe) in favor of a shared 11mbit 802.11b-based wireless network. Great idea in theory, but could have some serious issues in practice.

All I can say is that I'm glad next year is when I graduate, because running a wireless network along with 1500 laptops in our fairly large school with only 3 full-time techs is going to be hectic and will shift a huge ammount of work to the student techs (I'm one right now and we don't have to do a whole lot).

As far as the policy router is concerned, if your school ever is looking into a program called Websense, make sure they don't get it. That's what we have and it blocked so much that until they could customize the filters enough (took several weeks), you could hardly do anything.

Son Goku
04-29-03, 10:37 PM
Umm...unless people are forbidden to take these lap tops home...what's to prevent people from formatting and installing their laptop by other (non school supplied OS medium)? OK, it's a Mac, so maybe many people don't have access to other install disks... But unless software is integrated into the firmware...format/repartition the disk...nothing to restore.

Or are these laptops really not for each individual to take with them as long as they're in the school? Oh and to get the image back to what they expect by end of year or graduation...does Ghost work on a Mac? Not sure...