View Full Version : Overclocking My AMD 64 X2 3600+ 2.0GHz Manchester
Okay, I've had this running a few days at stock and finally decided to start with the overclocking of this puppy. I went straight for 2.4GHz @ stock voltage, RAM stayed the same @ stock settings, except I have it at 1T. Turned up my Tuniq Tower 120 all the way and here is my idle temps, so far.
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=30705&stc=1&d=1205421262
I'm pretty sure I can get this up to 2.6GHz and maybe even 2.8GHz. What do you all think?
Off to a good start, I think. :)
You are stong with the dark side :D
@ 2.6GHz
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=30715&stc=1&d=1205453368
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=30716&stc=1&d=1205453368
All voltages @ stock.
On to 2.8GHz?
CPU @ 2.8GHz 1.425V
RAM @ 466 2.6V (stock)
Major stress test! I'm really loving this Tuniq Tower 120, not to mention my CPU and RAM. :D
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=30720&stc=1&d=1205477556
That video running at the bottom is this one;
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4741/tn01lx0.jpg
Poor little 7600GT is truckin' right along! :D Can't wait to get my new 8800GT or 9600GT. :cool:
Okay, that wasn't entirely stable.
Backed down to 2.7GHz / 225MHz both @ stock voltage.
That's odd. My old 3800x2 was a Manchester 2.0ghz. This is 3600x2? It must be a difference in the cache.
The highest it liked to run stable was 2.4. I kept the voltage near stock though. I'm not a fan of cranking voltage.
My new 3800x2 in my HTPC is a Toledo. It does 2.4 at default voltage. I haven't tried any higher as there is no need.
Madpistol
03-14-08, 11:19 AM
2.7Ghz is a pretty nice overclock on a 2.0Ghz X2 chip. The manchesters seem to be pretty nice.
That's odd. My old 3800x2 was a Manchester 2.0ghz. This is 3600x2? It must be a difference in the cache.
The highest it liked to run stable was 2.4. I kept the voltage near stock though. I'm not a fan of cranking voltage.
My new 3800x2 in my HTPC is a Toledo. It does 2.4 at default voltage. I haven't tried any higher as there is no need.
Yes, evidently the Socket 939 X2 3600+ chips are pretty rare. They have a smaller L2 cache than their more common brother the Socket AM2 version. So far, 2.7GHz seems to be doing alright. Just have to wait and see. Most common overclock for this chip seems to be 2.6GHz.
Zapablast05
03-14-08, 02:39 PM
Don't let your HT Link get any higher than 1100, it will become extremely unstable. It shouldn't go above 1000 anyways, but with a little voltage bump, it can work at 1100. If you loosen up your cas latency and RAM speed, you can probably reach 2.9GHz with the voltage at around 1.5. I would always hit 3.0GHz with my 3800+ X2 Windsor core.
Don't let your HT Link get any higher than 1100, it will become extremely unstable. It shouldn't go above 1000 anyways, but with a little voltage bump, it can work at 1100. If you loosen up your cas latency and RAM speed, you can probably reach 2.9GHz with the voltage at around 1.5. I would always hit 3.0GHz with my 3800+ X2 Windsor core.
I don't know if I trust bumping the voltage from 1.35 to 1.5. When I had it 2.8GHz, it seemed to make quite a bit of difference. I've backed it off to 2.6GHz for the time being. I'll mess with it more later on. Oh, yeah, I may have to underclock the memory. That's how I had it with my last CPU overclock (Opty 170), but I also had 4 sticks of RAM then, too.
Zapablast05
03-15-08, 02:49 AM
Yeah, I had to underclock my RAM from 800 to 400 at CL6 to get it to 3.0 with my voltage at 1.475-1.50. It was extremely stable.
Yeah, I had to underclock my RAM from 800 to 400 at CL6 to get it to 3.0 with my voltage at 1.475-1.50. It was extremely stable.
Well, I went back to 2.8GHz with 1.45V, RAM is at like 233MHz stock voltage and I set, I think, the HT to 800, but CPU-Z still shows it above 1100. WTF? However, it's been stable for a few hours now, unlike the first time. I've used Photoshop CS, played some HD videos via WMP11 and played Painkiller for a while. So far, so good. *crosses fingers* Oh, and I ran Burn In for about an hour with no errors.
Redeemed
03-15-08, 03:00 AM
Well, I went back to 2.8GHz with 1.45V, RAM is at like 233MHz stock voltage and I set, I think, the HT to 800, but CPU-Z still shows it above 1100. WTF? However, it's been stable for a few hours now, unlike the first time. I've used Photoshop CS, played some HD videos via WMP11 and played Painkiller for a while. So far, so good. *crosses fingers* Oh, and I ran Burn In for about an hour with no errors.
Download Prime94 version 2.55 and run the SFF test overnight. If you get up tomorrow morning and there aren't any errors, you've got a stable overclock. ;)
Zapablast05
03-15-08, 03:00 AM
Well, I went back to 2.8GHz with 1.45V, RAM is at like 233MHz stock voltage and I set, I think, the HT to 800, but CPU-Z still shows it above 1100. WTF? However, it's been stable for a few hours now, unlike the first time. I've used Photoshop CS, played some HD videos via WMP11 and played Painkiller for a while. So far, so good. *crosses fingers* Oh, and I ran Burn In for about an hour with no errors.
You're set, my friend. That's probably one of the few things I love (and miss) about AMD chips, they're easily overclockable to their max potential. Try hitting 2.9 with 1.45 and your RAM at stock voltage with the slowest speed and loosest timings. What's your multiplier at, 10x? Your HT multiplier should be like around 3x. You could try the HT multi at 4x and hit 1160MHz HT at 2.9GHz at 10x multi with a bump at the HT voltage.
Should I put my memory back to 2T? I just played the demo of CoD4 without any hitches, mostly hindered by this 7600GT as far as that went.
EDIT: Just grabbed Prime95 v24.14
Redeemed
03-15-08, 03:53 AM
EDIT: Just grabbed Prime95 v24.14
It has to be 25.5 as anything before that will NOT stress test both cores simultaneously.
Redeemed
03-15-08, 03:54 AM
http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/Prime95-Download-76537.html
You can get it there. ^^^
Got it. I'll run it here in a little bit.
Tried 2.9GHz @ 1.5v for a while, but NHL07 kept locking up. However, I think it's a game issue, because it did it at 2.8GHz as well, where as CoD4 ran just fine in 2.8GHz. I'm running at 2.6GHz/216mhz right now. I may push it back to 2.8GHz .45v/233mhz, but going to wait until I get a different video card.
Redeemed
03-18-08, 01:24 AM
Tried 2.9GHz @ 1.5v for a while, but NHL07 kept locking up. However, I think it's a game issue, because it did it at 2.8GHz as well, where as CoD4 ran just fine in 2.8GHz. I'm running at 2.6GHz/216mhz right now. I may push it back to 2.8GHz .45v/233mhz, but going to wait until I get a different video card.
Have you run P95 yet? It's a sure way to tell whether an OC is truly stable or not.
Have you run P95 yet? It's a sure way to tell whether an OC is truly stable or not.
I did at 2.8, I think it was. One test stopped after 9 minutes, the second test stopped after 1 hour. I've never really gave much attention to Prime tests in the past.
One thing, I have yet to up the voltage on the RAM. That is the part that scares me the most. Should I bump it to 2.7v at 233mhz? Also, when I did the 2.9GHz, I put my HT to 600mhz. That may've been too low. From what I've read, it seems it needs to be set at 800 or 1GHz. I can't adjust the HT multiplier in my BIOS, so...I don't know. Finding just the right settings is, of course, the fun part, but it's all frustrating at times, too.
I'll tell you one thing, this Tuniq Tower 120 is amazing! :thumbsup:
Zapablast05
03-18-08, 02:32 AM
Try pressing ctrl+F1, maybe your motherboards BIOS has the HT multiplier hidden, just how my nforce 570 board was. If anything, just keep your HT multiplier at 3x if you figure out how to change the multiplier in the BIOS. Is your FSB multiplier at it's max?
Try pressing ctrl+F1, maybe your motherboards BIOS has the HT multiplier hidden, just how my nforce 570 board was. If anything, just keep your HT multiplier at 3x if you figure out how to change the multiplier in the BIOS. Is your FSB multiplier at it's max?
The default is 10 and I think that is it's max. However, it can be lowered. Problem is, the chip I have is very rare and it's hard to find info on it. I've been checking over at extremeoverclocking.com/.net some.
Zapablast05
03-26-08, 07:51 PM
They don't make 3600+ and 3800+ anymore. I used to have a 3800+ and it was an excellent overclocker.
They don't make 3600+ and 3800+ anymore. I used to have a 3800+ and it was an excellent overclocker.
Yeah, and most of them were not socket 939. They went off of Newegg just a few days after I got mine. I've been running at 2.8GHz 1.5v with RAM at 233mhz 2.7v for over a week now. Just need to get my 8800GT in here now. :thumbsup:
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