larrabee videocard

[zer0]

http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/03/17/intel_to_compete_with_amd-ati_nvidia/

[jcrox]

Kinda of sounds like they are coming into the fray with an attitude along the lines of "those other guys both do things one way but, we're going to show them that you can do it a totally different way"

If it works out and they can create a video card that is low on power usage and high on performance that will be great and will obviously have to be a complete 180 when compared to their crappy integrated graphics. It'll be interesting to see if they can make something that people will actually purchase.

[makeagoodchoice]

sounds great!

[AirRaid]

Larrabee represents Intel's first new attempt at 3D graphics since the announcement in 1996 that Intel would partner with Lockheed Martin's Real3D graphics division which lead to the development of the Auburn chip, the codename for the i740 graphics accelerator, released in early 1998.

[Treason]

This time, we have a competitor that won't be squished like a bug like what nVidia and the former ATi did to the XGI Volari's.

[AngelGraves13]

sounds like NVIDIA is in trouble. I don't just know if Intel can make drivers that work well with current games. They're not really known for good drivers if you ask me. I guess we'll have to wait and see. NVIDIA and ATI took years to get to where they are, but now they're starting to slack off with pointless releases of graphics card that don't really add new features. Maybe NVIDIA is making something similar now too. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[Revs]

Is there room for another high-end gfx card manufacturer?? Hell yeah. Bring it on!

Larrabee will thrust Intel into the discrete graphics market in a very large way. Not only does Intel plan to compete directly with NVIDIA and AMD/ATI in terms of straight graphics processing, it also plans to deliver physics processing on a discrete Larrabee solution. Smith hinted at physics processing as being one of the key strengths of Larrabee's design.

I wonder if nVidia buying Ageia has anything to do with this?! :rolleyes:

I also wonder when their 1st high-end card is due for release? This is really gonna shake the industry up. It's been just nVidia and ATI for years.

[Revs]

Also worth a read > http://beyond3d.com/content/news/565

[XMAN52373]

Everyone here who is betting on Intels graphics chip to be something around the lines of the next coming masiah is gonna have their hopes dashed when it comes out, atleast when it comes to playing todays games. Intels target is not every day useage, it is professionals who they are targetting. The manner in which the are designing this thing will make ATI and Nvidia nervous in their boots in and only in the professional market, it the consumer market it will be just good enough to do basic stuff due to the way it is being developed. Do not place your bets on Intel's new graphcis chip to threaten ATI or Nvidia in the comsumer market.

[Revs]

As already stated on their website, the group is focused on developing advanced products based on a many-core architecture targeting high-end client platforms initially. Their first flagship product for games and graphics intensive applications is likely to happen in late 2008-09 timeframe and the GPU is based on multi-core architecture.

The performance? How about 16x performance of any fastest graphics card out there now [referring to G80] as claimed

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4605

You could well be correct, XMAN, but I hope not :)

[XMAN52373]

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4605

Wishful thinking and it wont happen. They would need to make a chip with over 256 core on it to out perform the G80 or R670/80. Keep dreaming everyone, ATI and Nvidia will be it for gaming for quite some time.

It would be nice if I wasn't too. The problem here is this, Professional apps have RT(ray tracing) built into almost all of the those type of apps and RT is pretty much how they are designing the thing around, but no games are designed around this idea and this is where the new Intel grpahics is and will fall flat. Until developers change the way they make games or Intel changes the way they are designing Larabee, it will fall short.

[Noriega]

only 16 bah! In 2010 NV will make uber SLI for 20 graphic cards :x

I don't know how about you but I'm very excited about Larabee, NV and AMD are phuckin Lazy last time.

[ragejg]

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[Madpistol]

After reading that article, I can only think "I will believe it when I see it." I mean, this is coming from a company that said Graphics cards would no longer be needed in the future because processors will be able to have a graphics core onboard.

I doubt Intel's validity in this situation. Until they have a test unit reviewed by a professional review website, I don't trust that article. It's just PR crap.

[Ninja Prime]

After reading that article, I can only think "I will believe it when I see it." I mean, this is coming from a company that said Graphics cards would no longer be needed in the future because processors will be able to have a graphics core onboard.

I doubt Intel's validity in this situation. Until they have a test unit reviewed by a professional review website, I don't trust that article. It's just PR crap.

Uhhh that first part is happening next year? I dont think you understand who this is. This is Intel, they are worth 10 times what Nvidia is, they have 20 times the people to work on things, they have 10 times the income to throw at random projects. If they just spent 10% of the their resources on the GPU market they could easily match Nvidia, and a little more is all they need to dominate.

Nvidia and Ati screwed around slap fighting back and forth bringing out minor revisions and playing monopoly for too long, now a real company is going to stomp on their throats if they don't bring something new out.

[Redeemed]

Uhhh that first part is happening next year? I dont think you understand who this is. This is Intel, they are worth 10 times what Nvidia is, they have 20 times the people to work on things, they have 10 times the income to throw at random projects. If they just spent 10% of the their resources on the GPU market they could easily match Nvidia, and a little more is all they need to dominate.

Nvidia and Ati screwed around slap fighting back and forth bringing out minor revisions and playing monopoly for too long, now a real company is going to stomp on their throats if they don't bring something new out.
:rofl

That read like poetry for some reason...

[Madpistol]

Uhhh that first part is happening next year? I dont think you understand who this is. This is Intel, they are worth 10 times what Nvidia is, they have 20 times the people to work on things, they have 10 times the income to throw at random projects. If they just spent 10% of the their resources on the GPU market they could easily match Nvidia, and a little more is all they need to dominate.

Nvidia and Ati screwed around slap fighting back and forth bringing out minor revisions and playing monopoly for too long, now a real company is going to stomp on their throats if they don't bring something new out.

You could have all the money in the world and still not know how to use it...

That's Intel.

[Redeemed]

You could have all the money in the world and still not know how to use it...

That's Intel.
Well, this is quite evident with the Core2 processors, ain't it? ;)

I'm thinking people are just bitter about Intel's previous GPUs. Give 'em a chance. But also realise what market these cards are targeting when forming your opinion. These initial cards wont be high-end parts for gaming, they'll be workstation cards more geared towards static 3D renders instead of real-time 3D rendering. Larabee is geared to compete with the Quadro and FireGL cards, not the GeForce and Radeon series.

[XMAN52373]

Uhhh that first part is happening next year? I dont think you understand who this is. This is Intel, they are worth 10 times what Nvidia is, they have 20 times the people to work on things, they have 10 times the income to throw at random projects. If they just spent 10% of the their resources on the GPU market they could easily match Nvidia, and a little more is all they need to dominate.

Nvidia and Ati screwed around slap fighting back and forth bringing out minor revisions and playing monopoly for too long, now a real company is going to stomp on their throats if they don't bring something new out.

It could happen tomorrow for all I care, it will still fall flat on its face when it comes to running games and will do so later on unless they change the design on the chip to some degree. Games do not use RT to render anything and RT is far slower than running it on current ATI or Nvidia hardware. Professional apps is a whole different type of pie and I can promise you this, ATI and Nvidia are paying very close attention to Intel's Larabee as almost all Pro Apps have RT built into them.

[Madpistol]

Well, this is quite evident with the Core2 processors, ain't it? ;)

I'm thinking people are just bitter about Intel's previous GPUs. Give 'em a chance. But also realise what market these cards are targeting when forming your opinion. These initial cards wont be high-end parts for gaming, they'll be workstation cards more geared towards static 3D renders instead of real-time 3D rendering. Larabee is geared to compete with the Quadro and FireGL cards, not the GeForce and Radeon series.

I'm actually glad they got the Core 2's right. They're one hell of a processor line. :D

I didn't realize that it was going to be a workstation card. I'm not really "bitter" toward intel about breaking into the GPU market. I'm actually more worried about Intel thrashing Nvidia and AMD/ATI in a few years. That would make the processor AND graphics card markets monopolistic, and we all lose when that happens. :(

[Libertysyclone]

Its initial design isnt for workstation cards like Quadro/FireGL. It is going to be a direct competetor to NVIDIA's Tesla line.

HPC, High Performance Computing. Basically anything that uses large database and needs to compute it parallelized.

The architecture of the GPU is a lot more efficient at that type of work and that is why Intel is getting into the "graphics" market. Itanium will be killed by this technology pretty quickly.

[willywilly99]

If it works out and they can create a video card that is low on power usage

[Revs]

Larrabee to launch at 300W TDP

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7651&Itemid=65

We've learned quite upsetting news that Intel’s power point presentation graphics card product might launch with 300W TDP.

Intel has promised to show Larrabee by the end of 2008, but we've heard that the real production starts next year, probably in the later part of 2009.

Currently, the hottest TDP in the graphics world should be around 200W, which is a lot; but it still ends up 33 percent less than the miraculous 300W.

You can just imagine a cooler on such a card, but as we learned from the past, if it ends up being the fastest thing we know, we don’t really think people will mind.