Following Grokster rulling, RIAA resorts to spamming IM users

[Son Goku]

The RIAA sure knows how to make themselves rather unpopular. So earlier today it was Rossen going into Iraq following recent events to establish IP law favorable to them. And now, following a defeat in court, they resort to spamming...which isn't exactly a way to get on people's good side...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/30461.html

'We know who you are' - RIAA spams IM users
By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco
Posted: 30/04/2003 at 00:38 GMT

Rattled by last week's Grokster ruling, the RIAA has stepped up its psyops by spamming IM users with warning messages.

The messages are sprayed around the file sharing networks using the built-in chat function. One ominous message is intended to give the impression that the Pigopolists' Police are watching your every move:-

[You] "are not anonymous and you can easily be identified."

"By reaching out to individuals directly through these educational instant messages, we hope to encourage individuals to take the necessary steps to stop stealing music," says the RIAA's Cary Sherman, quoted here.

You probably receive 'educational ' email every day. It's called spam. It's information litter, and reduces the overall quality of incoming signals as surely as a poisoned MP3 file ruins the quality of your listening experience.

These people have no respect for the environment.

Now, while the RIAA says it can identify you, it needs a warrant to get your name. And that process got a whole lot easier last week when Verizon was ordered to hand over the identities of two P2P traders. That decision cannot be underestimated, and has important constitutional implications. Here's why [a must-read for US citizens]. ®

[LORD-eX-Bu]

haha! Too bad I'll be overseas before any of these guys get a chance to get my name and address from my Verizon ISP:lol:

My HD just crashed anyways, I'd like to see them try and find any illegal stuff on my comp:lol:

[omghi2u]

Originally posted by [eNv]-LORD-eX-Bu
haha! Too bad I'll be overseas before any of these guys get a chance to get my name and address from my Verizon ISP:lol:

My HD just crashed anyways, I'd like to see them try and find any illegal stuff on my comp:lol: Exactly, can they prove that the stuff ever existed on my comp? This is a new low, even for them.

[Kruno]

Even though I live in Australia I support you guys in the US or any other country. After the RIAA get control of the USA then they will come after other coutries. Only people who can stop the bastards are users. Giving the anti-RIAA groups support is a good start, we must put a stop to them before they can do much harm.

[StealthHawk]

Originally posted by K.I.L.E.R
Even though I live in Australia I support you guys in the US or any other country. After the RIAA get control of the USA then they will come after other coutries. Only people who can stop the bastards are users. Giving the anti-RIAA groups support is a good start, we must put a stop to them before they can do much harm.

Put a stop to them from doing what exactly? Overcharging prices on CDs(legitimate)? Or trying to stop music piracy(oh no, how horrible :rolleyes: )?

[oldsk00l]

This is what I will respond with

"It appears that you are offering crappy music to others from your company...When you sue your customers, you risk financial ruin."

Followed by "BRING IT BITCH"

[Kruno]

Originally posted by StealthHawk
Put a stop to them from doing what exactly? Overcharging prices on CDs(legitimate)? Or trying to stop music piracy(oh no, how horrible :rolleyes: )?

Both. They should let us pirate and pay 1 cent per CD. :lol:

[vampireuk]

*puts my feet up* ahh the joy of living in Britain:D

[Son Goku]

Except that in Britain they can charge you more money on some titles (aka movie prices in the US vs UK...and use of region coding)...and how price gouging/price fixing can enter into the picture.

[StealthHawk]

Originally posted by oldsk00l
This is what I will respond with

"It appears that you are offering crappy music to others from your company...When you sue your customers, you risk financial ruin."

Followed by "BRING IT BITCH"

But if people didn't buy crappy music they would stop producing it....right?

[PsychoSy]

Originally posted by StealthHawk
But if people didn't buy crappy music they would stop producing it....right?

Nope.

8-15 year olds really don't know **** about music. Case in point, people my age. In the 80s, most of us pretty much fawned over Micheal Jackson, for crying out loud. Today, we smack ourselves in the heads wondering, "WTF was I thinking back then!! I was grabbing my jock before I even had public hair, shesus flippin' Christ!!" :o

Not me - I never bought a Jackson album in my life. Instead, I bought Styx - "Kilroy Was Here". Easy decision, really. It was either "Billie Jean" or "Mr. Roboto" and the robot was, by far, the lesser evil. I was fortunate to know good music at such an age. Good judgement, however, is a different story altogether, for I made the most embarrassing decision so far in my life - something more embarrasing than 8-year olds wearing a glove and grabbing what little crotch they had immitating Jackson...

I took "Mr. Roboto" to gym class with me...and attempted to breakdance to it!! :p

True story, folks (Bronco McKart as my witness)!! :)

Mr. Selma Rankin (the gym teacher - black also, and the sweetest man you could ever meet) saved me for the most part because he was strict. So strict that he told the rest of the kids, "Y'all shut ya traps an' show dis boy sum respect like he shows you...else ya stay afta skoo an' help Vern in da Boiler Room!!" That saved me some humiliation because the rest of the class did exactly what they didn't want to do - which was to keep quiet for the most part save for a few surpressed chortles - but in truth, had it not been for Rankin's stern warning, my classmates would've blown the roof off Lincoln Elementary School as if it were The Apollo in epileptic, braying fits of laughter!! :D

And I would've deserved it, too!! :afro:

I know they did just that after school, though. It didn't take long for the "Ol' Honky Sy-more breaking to Roboto" to make the rounds. And you can bet when Rankin got home, he probably said to his wife with tears in his eyes, "T'day at work, sugar, I saw da damndest thaaang..." :D :p

Moral of the story?

Stupidity - be it genetic or not - doesn't descriminate.

Ever.

[PsychoSy]

Edit -- This place is haunted...:D :p

[vampireuk]

Wrong thread Sy?:D

[Kruno]

LOL! Sy's post confused me. I thought I was in the "how long..." thread. :lol:

[Son Goku]

Yeah, I think Sy had a long night or something. When he came to NVnews did seem rather confusing in reply to this thread at first glance. But then remembered someone started the other.

Oh and BTW, if these companies always just listened to people, FUNImation would probably be closed down by now or something. I was taken by shock 2 weeks ago. FUNImation had been taken to the cleaners (in terms of the amount of criticism they received by DBZ fans) for replacing the original theme music opening DBZ with "Rock the Dragon" among other things.

Now, when people thought they might be getting a little better, the DB GT DVDs they released, in the dub they made of this Japanese show, they replaced it not with Rock the Dragon again, but something far, far worse. They've now replaced it all with [c]rap. Argh...of all the things, I didn't like Rock the Dragon too much, but even that was preferable to the rap they have embeded in this foreign show
now. :barf:

Yeah, they were really listening to the viewers then...and what the viewers had complained about them doing for years. Not!!! And the result, looking at some anime NGs is many more people are at the verge of sending them even larger volumes of nasty missives by email...for having done this. Oh, maybe they'll do something about it (in 5 years)...only to turn around and next time go from replacing the rap with something even worse...if such a thing can be invented. :barf:

[StealthHawk]

Well, it is my opinion that if people like the music, for whatever reason, then it is not bad. You can't really judge something like music objectively. To say that successful music is bad doesn't make sense. Of course this assumes that you are judging music as entertainment, which is what its being marketed as, and what most people under the age of 30 probably view it as.

If you're considering music as a form of art, then yes, most of today's popular music is horrible.

[Kruno]

You can't really judge something like music objectively.

Then what are people doing? :lol:

If you're considering music as a form of art, then yes, most of today's popular music is horrible.

Wasn't music used in the first place as a form of art?
Relaxation is also an art, last I heard. :)

[StealthHawk]

Originally posted by K.I.L.E.R
Then what are people doing? :lol:

Measuring it subjectively.

Wasn't music used in the first place as a form of art?

Yes. Hence "high art" vs "low art" arguments.

[PsychoSy]

Uhm, that one post shouldn't be in this thread and I don't know how it got here! I double check my posts after submission and I'm 90% sure that sucker was in the correct thread. Granted, I've been sick lately with a cold (yesterday I didn't have a voice - I just rasped away like a wounded water buffalo in heat) and taking some over the counter medicine. No vodka this time, though....yet!

If I don't feel better later today, I'm getting pickled. :alc:

Alright, fine...I guess there is that remaining 10% chance that I actually did post that here but you can blame that on all the Alka-Seltzer tablets I've freebased over the past 72 hours...and I need to smoke a couple more. :D

Pardon me! :)

[Chalnoth]

Originally posted by Son Goku
Oh and BTW, if these companies always just listened to people, FUNImation would probably be closed down by now or something. I was taken by shock 2 weeks ago. FUNImation had been taken to the cleaners (in terms of the amount of criticism they received by DBZ fans) for replacing the original theme music opening DBZ with "Rock the Dragon" among other things.
Well, at least I have seen all of the DB GT episodes in Japanese with subtitles, and I thought they actually had a decent theme song in the Japanese version. I'm not sure I care that much to see them in English now...

But, I do have to say, the Dragonball Z Japanese theme song for the Buu saga was pretty bad.

[StealthHawk]

Originally posted by Chalnoth
But, I do have to say, the Dragonball Z Japanese theme song for the Buu saga was pretty bad.

The Buu saga itself was pretty bad.