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vampireuk
04-30-03, 02:24 PM
I've always noticed what when I format a drive there is always several GB missing after the format:D see attachment. Those should both be 120;) I'm cursed arnt I? Damn voodoo:mad:

Sazar
04-30-03, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by vampireuk
I've always noticed what when I format a drive there is always several GB missing after the format:D see attachment. Those should both be 120;) I'm cursed arnt I? Damn voodoo:mad:

they should never be exactly 120gb's hence the top one is correct...

however if they are both the same I am wondering if you don't have a bunch of hidden files on the 2nd hdd...

the marketing 120gb's comes from assuming 1mb = 1000kb... instead of 1024... hence giving you more... but like I said... this is the marketing term...

vampireuk
04-30-03, 02:29 PM
Well I know they both should not be precisely 120, thats just me in a strop:p

but on the second one I have no idea where the other space has gone....its brand new and just formatted 5 minutes ago

Sazar
04-30-03, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by vampireuk
Well I know they both should not be precisely 120, thats just me in a strop:p

but on the second one I have no idea where the other space has gone....its brand new and just formatted 5 minutes ago

yah... thats what I Was wondering :)

and I reckoned you were trying to take the pi$$ with your omg... its not 120gb thinger lol...

if they are both identical drives... they should be reasonably close to each other in total size... you sure there is not some hidden pr0n or a partition that is unformated on that hard-drive or something

I dunno.. just throwing stuff out there for you ...

digitalwanderer
04-30-03, 02:44 PM
I think Mr.Flibble took it and is playing a funny on ya! ;)

vampireuk
04-30-03, 02:45 PM
pr0n with a password?:angel:

Smokey
04-30-03, 03:39 PM
Yeah that used to puzzle me aswell ;) when they say 120GB, that is unformatted.

Starscream
04-30-03, 05:36 PM
It's not because of formatting, it's like Sazar said it's because the hard drive manufactures assume 1000 bytes = 1kb, 1000kb = 1 meg, 1000megs = 1 gig, etc.

For instance my 80gig western digital drive is only actually 74.5 gigs. If we do some simple calculations 80gigs = 80,000,000,000 bytes divide that by 1024 = 78,125,000kb /1024 = 76294 megs /1024 = 74.5 gigs. Exactly what's displayed when I open my computer.

Smokey
05-01-03, 07:08 AM
Hmm I was told about the unforamatted vs formatted when I was working in a pc shop here for a few months. I was told thats why an unformatted hard disk has more than a formatted!! Now Vamp is looking at his drives after they were formatted. If had looked in dos at the size of the unformatted size, it should be bigger than it currently shows.

vampireuk
05-01-03, 08:33 AM
Well I was more in a strop and had a to whine really:D my only beef is the second one which is at 111 when the other is at 114. I'll just get a 200GB drive to make up the difference:D

Smokey
05-01-03, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by vampireuk
Well I was more in a strop and had a to whine really:D my only beef is the second one which is at 111 when the other is at 114. I'll just get a 200GB drive to make up the difference:D

And Im here with my 27.5GB, 25GB after format :o :)

I would like to get a new drive, no cash, would like a Maxtor 80GB 8meg cache ;)

ALobpreis
05-01-03, 10:31 PM
Well, a 120 Gb "declared" hard disk (1 Gb = 10^9) is really 111,8 Gb (1 Gb = 2^30).
BUT, furthermore, you may not be able to format using every byte from your hard disk. You can see it while partitioning.
For example, you make a partition using all space available, but then you can make another partition of just 4 Mb...
That's just because of the nature of the way space is assigned.
Physical space doesn't fit logical space. :(