Xion X2
03-30-08, 10:00 PM
Just like Intel had something in waiting that slaughtered the K8... only it took them 3 years to release it... ;)
I am not talking about the past; I am talking about the here-and-now. Where are you?
While you've been doing all this talking and arguing, and theorizing about what your dual 2900s or dual 3800X2s will be like, I, on the other hand, have actually owned one or the other and have first-hand experience and knowledge of it.
You're predicting "Epic FAILz" for ATi even before official specs have been released.
From what I can tell, these look fairly official. VRZone is usually on top of their game when it comes to this stuff.
In essence, what you're saying about ATi implies (whether you intend to have this implied or not) that they'll fail no matter what, and it's impossible for them to get back in the game.
With the current architecture, it is impossible. At least in the performance category.
ROFLs, seriously. Here's a question for you: if it weren't for ATi and their "crappy" architecture this round- would we be able to purchase 8800GTSs and GTXs for such a cheap price? (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048%20106791921%201067924921&bop=And&Order=PRICE) Everybody dogs on AMD anymore. When really, they're the sole reason CPUs and video cards are as inexpensive as they are.
Quit turning everything into a pricepoint or competitive business argument. That was not at all my point. My point is disappointment that they will not be competing on a performance level with Nvidia with their current architecture. That has been evident for the past year now.
My point- for all the harrassment AMD recieves from the community here (and probably most every forum for that matter) we still owe them a mighty big "THANK YOU". They're the reason parts are so cheap. All the members here that are boasting about their Q6600 G0 stepping that oc's super well... had AMD not initiated the price war that CPU would be a $400 one atleast, and AMD would be in worse shape than they're in now.
Do you work for AMD, Redeemed? Do you honestly believe that I'm not smart enough to know the competitive business is a good thing and wish AMD would pick it up? That's part of where my disappointment stems from.
And it is rather ironic that you say they've "failed" when they were first out the door this generation with a proper functioning dual-GPU card. Oh, and it even scales better than the GX2.
I'd like to see proof of this, because I think you're full of it here. Most benches I've seen don't show the X2 scaling all that well in a lot of games, and it gets its butt handed to it by the GX2 in most benches.
And I've noticed a pattern that any comment of yours relating to PC gaming is usually a derogeratory comment... so why post at all?
Because this is America and I have just as much right to an opinion as you? Why do you keep posting salesman drivel like the above? Why can't you stay on topic and off of your soapbox?
I am not talking about the past; I am talking about the here-and-now. Where are you?
While you've been doing all this talking and arguing, and theorizing about what your dual 2900s or dual 3800X2s will be like, I, on the other hand, have actually owned one or the other and have first-hand experience and knowledge of it.
You're predicting "Epic FAILz" for ATi even before official specs have been released.
From what I can tell, these look fairly official. VRZone is usually on top of their game when it comes to this stuff.
In essence, what you're saying about ATi implies (whether you intend to have this implied or not) that they'll fail no matter what, and it's impossible for them to get back in the game.
With the current architecture, it is impossible. At least in the performance category.
ROFLs, seriously. Here's a question for you: if it weren't for ATi and their "crappy" architecture this round- would we be able to purchase 8800GTSs and GTXs for such a cheap price? (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048%20106791921%201067924921&bop=And&Order=PRICE) Everybody dogs on AMD anymore. When really, they're the sole reason CPUs and video cards are as inexpensive as they are.
Quit turning everything into a pricepoint or competitive business argument. That was not at all my point. My point is disappointment that they will not be competing on a performance level with Nvidia with their current architecture. That has been evident for the past year now.
My point- for all the harrassment AMD recieves from the community here (and probably most every forum for that matter) we still owe them a mighty big "THANK YOU". They're the reason parts are so cheap. All the members here that are boasting about their Q6600 G0 stepping that oc's super well... had AMD not initiated the price war that CPU would be a $400 one atleast, and AMD would be in worse shape than they're in now.
Do you work for AMD, Redeemed? Do you honestly believe that I'm not smart enough to know the competitive business is a good thing and wish AMD would pick it up? That's part of where my disappointment stems from.
And it is rather ironic that you say they've "failed" when they were first out the door this generation with a proper functioning dual-GPU card. Oh, and it even scales better than the GX2.
I'd like to see proof of this, because I think you're full of it here. Most benches I've seen don't show the X2 scaling all that well in a lot of games, and it gets its butt handed to it by the GX2 in most benches.
And I've noticed a pattern that any comment of yours relating to PC gaming is usually a derogeratory comment... so why post at all?
Because this is America and I have just as much right to an opinion as you? Why do you keep posting salesman drivel like the above? Why can't you stay on topic and off of your soapbox?