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jcrox
04-08-08, 01:34 AM
If you have a hobby which you really love, if you spend days and nights creating and improving something and put part of your soul in it and try to share it with people freely you will be defesive seeing like someone is making pee on it. If you ever done that and seen someone blaming it just for fun on because of misunderstanding, you'll understand me. Otherwise, it would be really hard to understand. If you don't take it personal - you just don't care and such hobby will die pretty soon.



Try to read RT 2.05 - 2.07 theads for example, to get what do I mean by "whole modern NVNews community". That are typicall comments forming my opinion about current forum visitors. And comments like yours are unfortunately like white crows here.

As an executive chef whose served countless meals to countless people and having worked at a very high and professional level, there's one thing I learned pretty quick; you're not going to make everyone happy, ever. No matter how perfect something is someone will still have some sort of complaint be it warranted or not. You might as well get used to it, its just the way it is.

Looking at you're immediate response to that guys post, if that's how you always go about replying to people then I can see why you would have a negative view of the nvnews community. I can't imagine a whole lot of people wanting to be nice to someone that just fires off on people like the way you fired off on that guy. I'll bet ya $5 you'll get a lot more positive experience out this place if you at least make an attempt at being courteous before going off... unless of course being confrontational is your goal.

JaxMacFL
04-08-08, 07:37 AM
If you have a hobby which you really love, if you spend days and nights creating and improving something and put part of your soul in it and try to share it with people freely you will be defesive seeing like someone is making pee on it. If you ever done that and seen someone blaming it just for fun on because of misunderstanding, you'll understand me. Otherwise, it would be really hard to understand. If you don't take it personal - you just don't care and such hobby will die pretty soon. ....


Try to keep in mind that most complaints/problems by people using computer software/hardware can be traced back to a short between the keyboard and the chair at the computer.:)

Shocky
04-08-08, 08:28 AM
Looking at you're immediate response to that guys post, if that's how you always go about replying to people then I can see why you would have a negative view of the nvnews community. I can't imagine a whole lot of people wanting to be nice to someone that just fires off on people like the way you fired off on that guy. I'll bet ya $5 you'll get a lot more positive experience out this place if you at least make an attempt at being courteous before going off... unless of course being confrontational is your goal.

He's got a history for this type of behaviour, he will first rip into people sometimes for good reason and sometimes for none, but always completely uncalled for, secondly depending on the response if things don’t go his way he will blame the whole community, in some cases ask to be banned in some kind of childish protest, or if people support him he will continue to insult users involved.

He makes great software, but he really does have a lousy attitude.

Unwinder
04-08-08, 09:01 AM
He's got a history for this type of behaviour, he will first rip into people sometimes for good reason and sometimes for none, but always completely uncalled for, secondly depending on the response if things don’t go his way he will blame the whole community, in some cases ask to be banned in some kind of childish protest, or if people support him he will continue to insult users involved.

You've also got a history of doing the same provocative postings in RT related threads @ Futuremark forum about a 1.5 year ago. BTW, after that hot discussion caused by your posts and you "support team" there I announced v2.0 Final Release, made a half year break in development and was really thinking about throwing RT away from my life. And the thing you call childish protest is in reality an attempt to prevent myself from wasting nerves on the community which absolutely don't need the things I do and find it fun to blame it.

And thanks again for your pleasant words. I was expecting something like that personally from you and others local "friends", now we just need conroejoe to post something about me and my crapware to make you completely happy. Continue having a fun and enjoying blaming.

Shocky
04-08-08, 09:18 AM
You've also got a history of doing the same provocative postings in RT related threads @ Futuremark forum about a 1.5 year ago. BTW, after that hot discussion caused by your posts and you "support team" there I announced v2.0 Final Release, made a half year break in development and was really thinking about throwing RT away from my life. And the thing you call childish protest is in reality an attempt to prevent myself from wasting nerves on the community which absolutely don't need the things I do and find it fun to blame it.

And thanks again for your pleasant words. I was expecting something like that personally from you and others local "friends", now we just need conroejoe to post something about me and my crapware to make you completely happy. Continue having a fun and enjoying blaming.

Wow, talk about paranoid.

Sycario
04-08-08, 09:19 AM
If you have a hobby which you really love, if you spend days and nights creating and improving something and put part of your soul in it and try to share it with people freely you will be defesive seeing like someone is making pee on it. If you ever done that and seen someone blaming it just for fun on because of misunderstanding, you'll understand me. Otherwise, it would be really hard to understand. If you don't take it personal - you just don't care and such hobby will die pretty soon.

I do, actually. It happens. I'm also a programmer for a living and get ripped into all the time for misunderstanding about the software especially from people who do not understand programming. I just think "they are wrong and know nothing about this". I don't get all riled up everytime I hear it, if I did I would get fired.

That being said, I like RivaTuner and appreciate the work. I'm sure most people who use it do.

Unwinder
04-08-08, 09:24 AM
Wow, talk about paranoid.

If you don't have a good memory, it doesn't mean that I don't. And bravo one more time and thanks again for one more insult and one more demonstration of good attitude.

Shocky
04-08-08, 09:29 AM
If you don't have a good memory, it doesn't mean that I don't. And bravo one more time and thanks again for one more insult and one more demonstration of good attitude.

Of course because unwinders always right and it's never your fault, but keep up the good work on Rivatuner. :captnkill:

Unwinder
04-08-08, 09:48 AM
I do, actually. It happens. I'm also a programmer for a living and get ripped into all the time for misunderstanding about the software especially from people who do not understand programming. I just think "they are wrong and know nothing about this". I don't get all riled up everytime I hear it, if I did I would get fired.

Agreed, but job is a bit different thing. My primary job is also software development but, first, we have special support service for that and, second, there is a good rule in buisness: tolerate any client's stupidity and satisfy his requests for his own money.
Hobby is something different, and when you have let's say just 2 hours every day after work and you can invest them either in researching some new hardware specifics and implementing them into new feature (which is really interesting task) or meet the next ego user in the forum misinforming community about software or demanding you to explain him politely and something documented in 100th time, you look at it from completely different POV. Let's say that it just hurts.


Of course because unwinders always right and it's never your fault.


My faults are documented with each new version in the release notes in bugfixes chapter.

nekrosoft13
04-08-08, 10:11 AM
Unwinder, don't judge the entire community by actions of the few. Many people greatly appreciate the work you put in RT.

Sycario
04-08-08, 10:21 AM
Unwinder, it's just your attitude towards people. It pisses people off.

walterman
04-08-08, 12:07 PM
RT is an excellent software. Better & better after each release.

You must understand that Unwinder uses a lot of his free time to work in his RT project, and it's a time that he could spend in himself.

Anybody who spends his free time working in a 'love for the art' project, expects at least respect from the community.

jcrox
04-08-08, 01:19 PM
You must understand that Unwinder uses a lot of his free time to work in his RT project, and it's a time that he could spend in himself.

Anybody who spends his free time working in a 'love for the art' project, expects at least respect from the community.

And most of us do respect him and his work and we also appreciate it but, any person who puts any product out for public use has to be a bit delusional to think there wont be people criticizing it, its the same with everything anyone does in life.

Viventis
04-09-08, 09:53 AM
wrong, it will autoload just fine

Sorry if I am behind the times (versions). On the main Guru3d Rivatuner page:
http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?page=rivatuner&menu=8 it still says (today) for Vista64; "disabled driver signature checking required."

I have been using and greatly appreciate Rivatuner. It became an absolute necessity after I bought my 8800GT which was factory overclocked. The fan speed control feature keeps me from locking up with temps in the high 90's C after extended gameplay. I got the signature issue with version 2.06 so I just started manually loading it out of habit since then. I tried for the first time (after your post) to load at startup again and I don't get the signature error but still have to deal with the "Allow" UAC stuff. Just one click so no sweat. I don't want to disable UAC just to save one click.

nekrosoft13
04-09-08, 10:06 AM
Sorry if I am behind the times (versions). On the main Guru3d Rivatuner page:
http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?page=rivatuner&menu=8 it still says (today) for Vista64; "disabled driver signature checking required."

I have been using and greatly appreciate Rivatuner. It became an absolute necessity after I bought my 8800GT which was factory overclocked. The fan speed control feature keeps me from locking up with temps in the high 90's C after extended gameplay. I got the signature issue with version 2.06 so I just started manually loading it out of habit since then. I tried for the first time (after your post) to load at startup again and I don't get the signature error but still have to deal with the "Allow" UAC stuff. Just one click so no sweat. I don't want to disable UAC just to save one click.

RT started to ship with signed drivers few months ago, don't remember when excactly.

Viventis
04-09-08, 11:47 AM
RT started to ship with signed drivers few months ago, don't remember when excactly.

No worries and thanks for the update. I was always thankful that Rivatuner worked with Vista64 at all! It is getting better while many other apps are showing their ages.

David power
06-04-08, 02:44 AM
Every time I overclock my 9800GX2 I get weird stuttering or jumpie preformance, Its like it drops a frame.

also I had my 21st last night so dont blame my bad spelling.... or english.

ragingWS6
06-04-08, 01:49 PM
I have tried NVs new System tool to replace nTune and it has gotten a little better, but Rivatuner is what I still use. Even running Vista x64 here. Always does what I need it to. Sets my clocks how I want them on startup along with the fans on my cards. I remember the only problem for a while was PB and Rivatuner not liking each other, especially in COD4, but that was DEFINITELY a EvenBalance issue, which seems to be resolved now.