Best Point Guard in the world?

[Tygerwoody]

It is entirely possible that Paul is on a hot streak and will disappear and not play as well come playoff time... but even that "What if" doesn't deny what he's achieved this year.
yep

[Banko]

Exactly my thoughts.


Nash has been a great point guard over the past few years. He is still great. It just so happens that this year, Chris Paul has overtaken him. To say Nash is still the "best" is the same as to say Shaq is the best center in the league... when he isn't. 3 Years ago, I would say without a doubt that Shaq is the best center in the league. This is not true now. The only difference in Nash and Shaq is that Nash is still playing at a good 90% of what he was and Shaq is only playing at 50%. I'll even go one step further with Shaq and say he's the best center of ALL TIME. So because he's the best center of all time, does that mean he deserves the right of being best center of TODAY? You'd be a fool to say yes.

It seems like people are giving Nash the status of "best" because of his past years. You can't give someone those honors over what they did in past years. If you were to say "who has been the best point guard of the past 5 years". Of course, I would say Nash because that would include previous years of combined accomplishments. Here and now, TODAY, Nash is not the best point guard in the league. Chris Paul is.

Being "proven" through past years does NOT matter. Chris Paul is the Best Point Guard in the World as of RIGHT NOW. Just like RIGHT NOW , Kobe Bryant is the best player in the world. This will probably change to Lebron James in the next two years. Of course though, there will still be fools calling Kobe Bryant the best because he is "proven" and has "rings". In two years time, Lebron will surpass Kobe for best player in the league. Previous year accomplishments do not matter when you are talking about TODAY. That only matters when you are talking of all time.
Lol, no offense but why do you say best player in the world? It's the NBA for ffs (You know National aka not International)

[Tygerwoody]

Lol, no offense but why do you say best player in the world? It's the NBA for ffs (You know National aka not International)
Please enlighten me of one international player better than Kobe Bryant or Lebron James. Hell, pick one with half the talent. Just one.


Most single NBA teams are better than the all star teams of most countries.

[Zelda_fan]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/15561-NBA-Why_Chris_Paul_Is_the_Best_Point_Guard_in_the_NBA_-310308
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/23373603/
http://ballhype.com/article/chris_paul_best_point_guard_in_the_nba_without/

These analyst's are idiots. They're the same people who give stat stuffers like Dirk MVP. Most likely they've never played team basketball in their life.

Not saying Chris Paul is like Dirk. CP is truly a great player.

Ok it's like, why do people consider Michale Jordan the greatest player of all time? It's not because of stats. He was up there in stats, but several people put up better numbers than him. It's because he was clutch when it counted, and he had the ability to take over a game. Same deal with Nash. When it's playoff time, he plays VERY well, and hits a lot of clutch shots. He'll even take over a game sometime. When I see Chris Paul do that, then I'll give him the Best Point Guard title.

[Zelda_fan]

Lol, no offense but why do you say best player in the world? It's the NBA for ffs (You know National aka not International)

You are a doush bag if you don't think the NBA has the greatest players in the world.

And please don't use the USA olympic team as an example. It contained a group of players (who weren't even the best the NBA had to offer) that had never played together as a team. A non-team will always lose to a well-oiled team.

[sytaylor]

See thats the thing, I readily accept Paul has no experience of playoffs and could disappear, but its a case of cross that bridge when you get to it. Right now, he's odds on to take best PG.

[Tygerwoody]

You are a doush bag if you don't think the NBA has the greatest players in the world.

And please don't use the USA olympic team as an example. It contained a group of players (who weren't even the best the NBA had to offer) that had never played together as a team. A non-team will always lose to a well-oiled team.
Also add to the fact that the US Olympic team rarely contains all the best NBA players nowadays. Our US team hasn't consisted of the best players the league had to offer since the Dream Team. And its sad, because I believe the NBA has overall better players now that could defeat the old "Dream Team". its just none of them want to be in the Olympics.

I mean lets be for real. What business does a scrub like J. J. Reddick have being on the Olympic team? Thats just ridiculous. I don't give a damn who his coach use to be or how good he was in college. The kid has no business even being in the NBA if you want my honest opinion. Much less representing our country.

/for the record. I knew J. J. Reddick in real life. We lived in the same area and went to the same parties. He's a tool shed and an arrogant prick.

[Zelda_fan]

/for the record. I knew J. J. Reddick in real life. We lived in the same area and went to the same parties. He's a tool shed and an arrogant prick.

Did you ever ball against him?

[Tygerwoody]

Did you ever ball against him?
No. I didn't even know he played ball when I met him. I just knew everyone hated him and I could clearly see why.

[Tygerwoody]

I have to say, I agree http://www.nba.com/features/player_rankings.html


That performance was the centerpiece of Paul's sick March. Check the digits: 24.0 ppg, 13.3 apg and 2.7 spg. Throw in his 7:1 assist to turnover ratio, and you have someone who's playing the point guard position as well as it's been played. He's also not doing this in a vacuum. His numbers translate to wins as the Hornets sit atop the uber-competitive Western Conference.

As for his season numbers, at 11.4 dimes and 2.7 steals, Paul could become the first player to lead the league in assists and steals since John Stockton did it with 13.7 assists and 2.98 steals in the 1991-92 season and only the second player in NBA history to do it...


Chris Paul is number 1 candidate for MVP. Well deserved. (yes i know those rankings aren't official, but they have been right every single year).

Another interesting note is Amare Stoudemire is bumped up significantly. Its been my opinion that the real MVP of the Suns for the past 2 years has been Amare and NOT Steve Nash. Again, nothing taking away from Nash. He's a great player, but Amare is worth more to the team.

[kingme02]

Either way you cant go wrong with Nash or Paul

[Zelda_fan]

Another interesting note is Amare Stoudemire is bumped up significantly. Its been my opinion that the real MVP of the Suns for the past 2 years has been Amare and NOT Steve Nash. Again, nothing taking away from Nash. He's a great player, but Amare is worth more to the team.

At this point, I'd have to agree with you. Wouldn't have said so last year, or the year before. But after the Shaq trade, Amare has been playing amazing. I don't think he'll win MVP. Too little too late, but at this point he's the best ball player on the suns.

Regardless, the Suns won't win a championship without either Amare or Nash.

[Zelda_fan]

Chris Paul is number 1 candidate for MVP. Well deserved. (yes i know those rankings aren't official, but they have been right every single year).


The race is a lot closer this year. Kobe was number one last week, and I hope he wins it. He's been the best player in the league for some time now, and it's about time he got an MVP.

Chris Paul is only a couple years into the league. I don't think he deserves an MVP yet. It isn't like he's putting up Jordan numbers.

[Tygerwoody]

The race is a lot closer this year. Kobe was number one last week, and I hope he wins it. He's been the best player in the league for some time now, and it's about time he got an MVP.

Chris Paul is only a couple years into the league. I don't think he deserves an MVP yet. It isn't like he's putting up Jordan numbers.
Kobe deserves MVP, but mainly due to past years. He was absolutely robbed two years ago when he didn't win it. Then Dirt getting MVP was an absolute joke.

Chris Paul, Kobe, and Lebron all deserve MVP. I won't be upset which way it goes. I have to say though, that I will be upset if KG wins it. While KG is an amazing athelete, I don't believe he deserves that honor. He's had alot of help to make the Celtics what they are. Obviously without him, the Celtics would be nowhere near as good, but Ray Allen and Paul Pierce are just as important. Honestly I think Pierce is the best player on that team at the moment. He just doesn't play with as much passion as KG.

[Tygerwoody]

another blog about someone who clearly knows nothing about basketball. On Chris Paul.

http://my.nba.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5800001252

[Zelda_fan]

Kobe deserves MVP, but mainly due to past years. He was absolutely robbed two years ago when he didn't win it. Then Dirt getting MVP was an absolute joke.

Chris Paul, Kobe, and Lebron all deserve MVP. I won't be upset which way it goes. I have to say though, that I will be upset if KG wins it. While KG is an amazing athelete, I don't believe he deserves that honor. He's had alot of help to make the Celtics what they are. Obviously without him, the Celtics would be nowhere near as good, but Ray Allen and Paul Pierce are just as important. Honestly I think Pierce is the best player on that team at the moment. He just doesn't play with as much passion as KG.

This is the first time in NBA history where Kobe had a good team that he led all by himself (the other years where he won the championship he had Shaq, so I wouldn't say he was MVP then), so I wouldn't say he was "robbed" two years ago (btw 2 years ago when the Lakers played the Suns in the playoffs, MVP Steve Nash knocked them out in the first round).

This year he actually has a good team, and he's really the main reason for it, so that's why I think he deserves it this year.

[Sazar]

At this point, I'd have to agree with you. Wouldn't have said so last year, or the year before. But after the Shaq trade, Amare has been playing amazing. I don't think he'll win MVP. Too little too late, but at this point he's the best ball player on the suns.

Regardless, the Suns won't win a championship without either Amare or Nash.

Amare is playing like he is because of Shaq.

Shaq opens up lanes for Amare he did not have even with Marion and Nash at the top of their games and therefore he can both rebound AND score more freely and gamble more on defense and get more blocks and steals. That's the respect Shaq still commands.

re: this seasons MVP, if Kobe doesn't get it after the cop-out to Nowitzki last season and Nash the year before, I will be shocked. Nowitzki deserved the award as much last season as Nash did the year before.

[Tygerwoody]

re: this seasons MVP, if Kobe doesn't get it after the cop-out to Nowitzki last season and Nash the year before, I will be shocked. Nowitzki deserved the award as much last season as Nash did the year before.
1000% agree

I honestly believe Chris Paul will get it this year. Just my thoughts. I will still be rooting for Kobe to get it though. Its just his attitude really keeps him from winning the votes. Thats his biggest downfall.

[Sazar]

Well, Shaq's only won 1 time, so it's whatever.

[Tygerwoody]

LOL! at this thread.

Steve Nash couldn't hold Chris Paul's jock strap. CP3 is a good ways ahead in every single aspect of being a point guard than Steve Nash.

[Zelda_fan]

NOH won an extra 15 games from last season to this season.

When Nash joined the suns they nearly tripled their wins. Nash is a player that could easily drop 30+ a game if he was forced to take more shots. But since he is surrounded by great players he gives it up to them, and he still manages to shoot over 50% when nearly every shot he takes is a circus shot.

[Sazar]

Good for him.

Chris Paul has been consistent for 3 years and has greatly out-performed Nash over the past 2 seasons since he also happens to play DEFENSE, which Nash is allergic to.

[Tygerwoody]

Bump

Looks like me and Sazar were the only two in this thread with a brain! :udawg:

[Zelda_fan]

Bump

Looks like me and Sazar were the only two in this thread with a brain! :udawg:

Wrong. Nash is still the best point guard in the world.