Nvidia Tegra?

[AthlonXP1800]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/other/display/20080414144453_Nvidia_Readies_Major_Product_Launch _of_Tegra.html

Any idea what Nvidia Tegra is?

[David power]

I'd say its something to do with nvidia. and I would also go as far as saying its something to do with graphics. maybe video...... Hmmm. Sorry if you think i was being overly specific.

[K007]

hmm....somethings to do with physics?

[mullet]

new cell phone?

[Revs]

hmm....somethings to do with physics?

:captnkill: Hope so

[David power]

Just found it!!!


Nvidia are releasing a new Potato peeler!

I think its PCI-E 2 and everything, I will post the official spec sheet when it is released later today.

http://www.ratload.com/peeler.jpg

[slaWter]

Maybe a system-on-chip or another integrated solution...

[nrdstrm]

Maybe a system-on-chip or another integrated solution...

That's what I was thinking...Either that or a new mobile graphics chip (for phones and such, not lappys)...

[shabby]

Tegra... nTegra... integra ;)

http://www.edmunds.com/media/reviews/generations/acura.integra.rsx/96.acura.integra.340.jpg

[Galvin]

They have a whole computer on a chip. This includes south bridge/north bridge, cpu, memory controller. Everything a computer needs on one chip. This could be tegra. Far as I know no company has ever made a whole computer on one wafer before.

[ephmrl]

Far as I know no company has ever made a whole computer on one wafer before.

SoC's have been done many times over, including on x86. Search for Intel Timna - aborted back in 2000 even though thousands of working samples proved the product was more than viable - mostly due to intel's failed bet that rambus was the way of the future...

[Toss3]

Hmm maybe it's the new low cost multimedia pc?

http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2008/04/nvidia_via_low_cost_multimedia_pc.html

[nekrosoft13]

new name for graphics card.

no more Geforce, now will be tegra. geforce reached 9800 series. not sure if they would go 10800 now.

[Logical]

Tegra is a new team they have put together that are dedicated to releasing new drivers that actually make a difference from the last ones. :)

[hell_of_doom227]

Actually Tegra is a new Nvida CPU :)

[Galvin]

SoC's have been done many times over, including on x86. Search for Intel Timna - aborted back in 2000 even though thousands of working samples proved the product was more than viable - mostly due to intel's failed bet that rambus was the way of the future...

yeah I looked it up intergrated graphics with memory. But thats not what nvidia has. Nvidia put everything a computer has on one wafer not just graphics and memory.

The idea is not new but I just dont remember any company putting 100% of a computer on a wafer.

[Revs]

Some more info on the nVidia Tegra, from Fud...

Nvidia's Tegra does 720P HD with 600mw

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7641&Itemid=1

Nvidia has just launched its fourth brand called Tegra. That is what we know as APX 2500 sort of mobile CPU-GPU and this platform can play 720P video with 600miliwats.

Tegra is a 144 square mm chip that can cope with 1080P video decoding and from the graphics side, it is powered by high performance go force GPU.

It was funny when the engineer claimed up to 1W for the total system that was cool enough, but then the director of the mobile division said 1.3W. The number kept growing but it is still way better than Atom as Atom needs a chipset and it still sucks with HD playback.

With OLED displays this chipset might just have a chance.


Tegra could support X86

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7642&Itemid=65

We’ve just seen Nvidia's APX CPU, that will be branded Tegra, and we’ve seen that this new application processor can run Windows embedded 6.0.

After a few questions we’ve learned that the same chip could theoretically support X86 but someone would need to develop software for such a task.

So, there is your answer, with a X-86 license Nvidia could support and run Windows XP. It is possible from an engineering point of view.

The answer to all problems is simple, if Nvidia gets an X86 license you have a fourth CPU, VIA being the third.

Nvidia says Tegra beats Atom

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7643&Itemid=66

Nvidia launched a frontal attack against Intel - again. Tegra is Nvidia’s new toy that needs less than 1W, while Atom needs at least 12W, but with a display we believe Atom ends up needing least 30W. Tegra is actually a system chip while Atom needs a power-greedy chipset.

Nvidia's General Manager of the mobile business unit, Michael Rayfield, said that with the same battery Tegra can do 26 hours of HD on one charge, whereas Atom is capable of 1 to 2 hrs. Tegra is good for emails and you can do 20 plus hours of video, while Atom would be coping with emails for only an hour or two.

Tegra internet device notebook can also run Quake 3 at 35FPS. It is cool, but it just isn’t X-86.


Mobile Tegra can end up thinner than iPod touch

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7647&Itemid=70

(Photo's on page)

One of Nvidia’s Tegra guys told us that Tegra mid platform doesn’t need to be that fat. It can get much thinner and one of the guys guarding its small prototype has told us that Tegra mid can end up being thinner than iPod touch.

This is kind of impressive, but the actual Tegra mid, based on APX 2500 platform, will launch with the design wins from Nvidias partners.

iPod touch is one of the coolest and thinnest things we’ve seen so far and therefore Nvidia can come up with some cool Tegra devices.

Tegra has a cool looking interface and it is something that can give the first iPhone a good run for its money, but beware, since there is a new one coming shortly.

Tegra, on the other hand, is a rusty name for a brand but at least it starts with a T, just like Tesla.

Nvidia gets an ARM, CPU

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7644&Itemid=66

Ian Drew, the Vice president of ARM marketing, just said that, “We (ARM) think Nvidia is the coolest customer.” This is quite a bold statement for this mobile phone CPU manufacturer.

All of Intel’s cherry picked 55 Websites didn’t work on ARM and now they do, among them Mozilla, Adobe Flash 9 and Opera browser.

Nvidia’s Tegra has Arm 11 CPU which powers Nvidia’s new notebook platform. The products based on the Tegra platform should be in stores by holiday season 2008.

We also noticed that ARM itself was not too happy about Intel or Atom, so at least Nvidia has someone by its side.


Tegra-based MID shown by Nvidia

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7646&Itemid=70

Nvidia was showing off its prototype MID device during a pre-Computex press conference in Taipei, Taiwan, earlier today and our first impression of the device is that is looks somewhat like an iPhone that ate a bit too much, a bit too fast.

Still, it does have some features up its sleeve that you won’t get with your iPhone, such as a built-in HDMI interface which can be used for connecting it to an HD TV set and display video at 720p or 1080p, depending on which model of CPU is used.

It seems to be just as prone to fingerprint smudges as the iPhone, and you can see it for yourself from the picture below after having been handled by a large room of journalists.

As you can see on the second picture, it also offers connectivity for headphones, some kind of analog display output, USB 2.0, HDMI, of course, and it also seems to have a microSD card slot for memory expansion.

The UI looks quite slick, as you can see from the third picture, but don’t be fooled, as this is only a fancy front end to Windows CE and not a custom OS.

Nvidia wasn’t showing any partner devices, as their partners were either unwilling to show off early devices at this stage or just hadn’t gotten that far in product development.

Nvidia fights X86 world with Tegra

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7645&Itemid=66

Well, Nvidia said it. They just said to the world that its Tegra is better than Atom, it can do better things at lower power and that it will last for tens of hours on video, emails and web browsing.

Nvidia just said that it will fight the rest of the X86 world, or should we call it windows or Mac OS compatible with its Tegra platform.

Tegra has 700 to 800MHy Arm 11 CPU which is really power efficient but it will never run stuff such as Photoshp, MSN messenger or any other Windows XP & Vista capable application.

It can run embedded Windows but that is just about it, it is not X86 and it will never be X86. The platform kind of has a chance, as it claims 20 hours of emails or 24 hours of HD video, but powered with next generation OLED devices.

Atom is worse, but with OLED the battery life will look much better. Can a small green company called Nvidia change the face of the mobile computing?

For its sake we hope that they do.

[Madpistol]

Revs, you're my hero. :wonder:

[Revs]

:D

Looks good, dunnit.

[Revs]

How small is Tegra?

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7650&Itemid=66

Smaller than a penny


We tried to snap a few pictures of the power points to show you the size of the Tegra CPU, but due to some rather bad lighting in the room where the press conference was held, we have to appologize for the quality of the pictures below.

First up, we have a couple of shots of the CPU in comparison to first of all, a penny (that's one U.S. cent, not a U.K. penny) on one of the slides; and after that, we have a picture of a barely visible chip held by Michael Rayfield from Nvidia.

As you can see, this is one seriously tiny processor and the platform is rather small as well. Again, not the greatest pictures in the world, but the first one is of a slide which shows the size comparison between an Atom MID motherboard and a Tegra MID motherboard; you can make up your own mind up about which one is smaller and possibly more power efficient.

And lastly we have a picture of a show girl in a white fake leather outfit holding a chip in her hand for all of you into fetish outfits Taiwanese show girls.

[nekrosoft13]

so a lot of those rumors last year about nvidia working on CPU were right.

would be nice if nvidia would get x86 license

[mullet]

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Nvidia-Tegra,5516.html

What is Tegra?

To clear out some confusion, let us first stress that Tegra is not a CPU. Neither is a GPU or a combination of both with one part dominating the other.

Instead, Tegra is a "system-on-a-chip" (SoC) or "computer-on-a-chip" (CoC). Tegra consists of an ARM11 CPU core, a GoForce (renamed into GeForce ULV) GPU, an image processor (digital camera support), a HD video processor (PureVideo for handhelds), memory (NAND Flash, Mobile DDR), a northbridge (memory controller, display output, HDMI+HDCP, security engine) and a southbridge (USB OTG, UART, external memory card SPI SDIO, etc).

In short, Tegra includes the whole shebang: CPU, graphics and what you traditionally find on a motherboard are squeezed onto a single silicon die. What is particularly impressive about this device is the fact that this chip measures just 144 mm2, which is smaller than a dime and about one quarter the size of the upcoming GeForce graphics chip, which measures 576 mm2, according to our sources.

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Tegra lineup

Tegra arrives in three versions with different markets in mind. Nvidia ditched the suffix "CSX" at the last moment, and decided to name its mobile computing parts "600" and "650". Strangely enough, Nvidia decided to keep the name "APX" for its cellphone chip, which is called "APX 2500". So, the complete product family at launch includes the Tegra APX 2500, Tegra 600 and Tegra 650. And yes, the lowest performing part has highest number. Go figure.

The (Tegra) APX 2500 was introduced in February 2008 in Barcelona at the Mobile World Congress. The chip is clocked at 600 MHz, and targets applications with FWVGA display resolutions (854 x 480 pixels). This version is a sub-1 watt part and is rated at a power consumption of 0.6-1 watts. Considering the fact that this chip is capable of running HD video decoding and encoding (720p only), the power consumption rating is impressive. Not surprisingly, the APX 2500 targets cellphones and PDAs with low power envelopes. If you consider the chip’s capabilities, its size and power rating, there is no doubt in our mind that this is a potentially game changing piece of silicon that is a kick in the you-know-what of sleeping cellphone giants such as Texas Instruments (TI), Freescale, STMicro, Philips and others.

The Tegra 600 is clocked at 700 MHz and targets devices with SXGA resolution (1280 x 1024). Besides the clock speed, Nvidia expanded the storage capabilities with IDE support for Compact Flash and solid state disks (SSDs). This model aims to attract customers in the GPS segment and automotive applications such as dashboard systems or central entertainment systems. The power consumption is in the 1 Watt range, which is still a very low level. Nvidia demonstrated this chip (Tegra 600 + HDMI, USB, stereo jacks) consuming 1 watt while running 720p video decode through HDMI.

Both the Tegra APX 2500 and 600 integrate low-power DDR memory clocked at 166 MHz.

The Tegra 650 is a beast, the "GTX" of the handheld and sub-notebook world. Nvidia has clocked this part at 800 MHz, while keeping the power consumption in a 2.5 - 4 watt envelope. This investment delivers 1080p video decode at 30 fps (24 and 29.99). The Tegra 650 uses embedded LP-DDR memory clocked at 200 MHz.