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Airbrushkid
04-18-08, 03:54 PM
Just found this.
http://www.dailytech.com/Dodecacore+The+Megahertz+Race+is+Now+Officially+th e+Multicore+Race/article11531.htm
Tygerwoody
04-18-08, 04:05 PM
AMD
*yawn*
Redeemed
04-18-08, 04:29 PM
As usual, it sounds real nice. I'm just curious what real-world performance will be like.
Currently my Phenom 9600 chews through everything I've thrown at it. It feels every bit as responsive (actually, a little more so) than my 2.9Ghz FX-60 did. And this Phenom is at stock speeds (2.3Ghz per core). My FX-60 rig had 4GB of RAM... this one only has 2 as it BSODs with 4 (not sure if it's bad RAM or an improper BIOS setting yet).
I know most people here belittle AMD (yes, that was almost entirely directed at you, Tyger)- yet the Phenoms offer far more processing power than the average computer user needs. Even for gaming the Phenoms are excellent. I'm looking to replace this Phenom with a 9850 and 790FX based mobo in about a month. Looking forward to running that 9850 at 3Ghz and seeing how it screams. :D
For comparisons' sake I'll be running a Q6600 at 3Ghz as well. The AMD rig will have (hopefully) dual 3870X2s (or two RV770s), while the Q6600 will have two of nVidia's next best cards. Should make for a fair comparison between the companies. :D
CaptNKILL
04-18-08, 05:22 PM
Sweet. Why have 2 of 4 cores sitting idle warming up your case when you can have 10 of 12 cores sitting idle warming up your case?
Redeemed
04-18-08, 05:33 PM
Sweet. Why have 2 of 4 cores sitting idle warming up your case when you can have 10 of 12 cores sitting idle warming up your case?
lol
Vista (and XP) typically does a good job of breaking any work load up between the cores. I can see 4 cores coming in handy for certain situations... but more than that seems extremely excessive for 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of consumers. :p
XDanger
04-18-08, 06:07 PM
giving each process its own core sounds nice.
24 core is the goal ,48 logical
Extra cores are good for winter time to warm up the room. Dont knock it :P
just....can't
get...excited..................................... .......about
this.
You could make 1,000,000 cores available to the consumer....but if developers don't take advantage of it...whats the point -.-..
Zapablast05
04-19-08, 09:53 PM
You can tell AMD isn't going to sit around to get bought out or go out of business, they're just making random/weird ****. 12 cores? Can we get more 4 core support?
Redeemed
04-20-08, 12:54 AM
just....can't
get...excited..................................... .......about
this.
Ran out of your prescription viagra? :p
You can tell AMD isn't going to sit around to get bought out or go out of business, they're just making random/weird ****. 12 cores? Can we get more 4 core support?
True. AMD has been the under dog for... how many years? Not once have they had and held the greater amount of marketshare. They're in deep trouble, but I do believe they'll (somehow) manage to pull themselves out... just like every time before. ;)
Sweet. Why have 2 of 4 cores sitting idle warming up your case when you can have 10 of 12 cores sitting idle warming up your case?
It would obviously be directed at business environments where threads matter a lot more.
Well if you read the artical they are refering to Operons and Xeons so no, not home users.... just yet.
AthlonXP1800
04-20-08, 04:29 PM
Well if you read the artical they are refering to Operons and Xeons so no, not home users.... just yet.
Yeah not until 2010 when Intel plan to launch mainstream 12 core with 24 threads as well as high end 16 core with 32 threads desktop CPUs while the servers CPUs will move to 32 core with 64 threads.
I dont know how will AMD respond to Intel's next generation hyper-threading technology when they didnt develop similar technology since Intel created it in R&D 10 years ago. Intel's Atom CPU performance boosted by 50% when hyper-threading enabled using 2 threads, they will launch dual core Atom CPU later this year with 4 threads which will perform like a quad core CPU about on par with Athlon 64 X2 3800+ performance based on Cinebench 9.5 benchmark.
Sweet. Why have 2 of 4 cores sitting idle warming up your case when you can have 10 of 12 cores sitting idle warming up your case?
It's been a while since AMD (or Intel) designed CPU cores for the desktop market. It's a shrinking market that is an afterthought. Their flagship products are targeted mostly at server applications. Any improvements in the desktop market is incidental, not the primary focus of a new product.
lol
Vista (and XP) typically does a good job of breaking any work load up between the cores. I can see 4 cores coming in handy for certain situations... but more than that seems extremely excessive for 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of consumers. :p
World Population: 6 602 224 175
Percent if it were excessive to all but 1 person:
100 - (1 / 6 602 224 175) * 100 = 99.999999984853589132%
So clearly by this information, somewhere out there, there's an eye lash that's been waiting ages for this.
Now off I go in to the night, with the world's 3rd dryest sense of humor.
Absolution
04-21-08, 04:17 AM
I'll summarize all my thoughts into one sentence so you don't have to see extra babble.
This is stupid. <--- period
Tygerwoody
04-21-08, 10:12 AM
LOL! I love how Redeemed always blindly follows this failing company. :udawg:
<3 u Redeemed. Even though you would rather spend more money on a subpar product. :D
LOL! I love how Redeemed always blindly follows this failing company. :udawg:
<3 u Redeemed. Even though you would rather spend more money on a subpar product. :D
they may be "subpar" for the .05% of computer users that fall under the enthusiast category but the average user would never know the difference between an AMD and an Intel chip also, they work quite well when it comes to the enterprise domain especially when you consider how many cpu upgrades you can do with AMD without having to also buy a new motherboard compared to Intel cpus where every other release seems to require a new motherboard.
Redeemed
04-21-08, 12:54 PM
LOL! I love how Redeemed always blindly follows this failing company. :udawg:
<3 u Redeemed. Even though you would rather spend more money on a subpar product. :D
I also own a Q6600 and an E6600. I fail to see the point in your post...
they may be "subpar" for the .05% of computer users that fall under the enthusiast category but the average user would never know the difference between an AMD and an Intel chip also, they work quite well when it comes to the enterprise domain especially when you consider how many cpu upgrades you can do with AMD without having to also buy a new motherboard compared to Intel cpus where every other release seems to require a new motherboard.
Hasn't Intel been using LGA775 for quite a while now? Or does their server procs use a different socket?
I also own a Q6600 and an E6600. I fail to see the point in your post...
Hasn't Intel been using LGA775 for quite a while now? Or does their server procs use a different socket?
Not sure about the server stuff, I just know the guys at work that take care of the hardware prefer AMD over Intel and have said several times that upgrading with AMD is easier and has historically been cheaper. They scowl when I bring up Intel.
It will be interesting to see how moving from dual core to quad core effects the system... currently the thread pool can get pretty full at peek times. ...I hope this doesn't mean more work for me :(
Extra cores are good for winter time to warm up the room. Dont knock it :P
but power wise its cheper to use an electric plug in heater. it does a better job.
Ran out of your prescription viagra? :p
:lol:
Remember grey is not multi-threaded yet :p
It's been a while since AMD (or Intel) designed CPU cores for the desktop market. It's a shrinking market that is an afterthought. Their flagship products are targeted mostly at server applications. Any improvements in the desktop market is incidental, not the primary focus of a new product.
I view this as a good thing. :captnkill:
killahsin
05-08-08, 09:14 AM
not to **** it anyones my cores don't get used cereal. but if developers don't start writing real threaded parallel engines shortly they will be up ****s creek. The lazyness has to end soon. Because its all going this way anyways.
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