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nekrosoft13
04-20-08, 02:25 PM
Nvidia will reportedly upgrade its high-end graphics cards this summer with the new G92 GPUs manufactured with the 55nm process.

The source of the news is Digitimes.com citing industry sources in Taiwan.

Code-named G92b, the new GPU is expected to operate at higher clocking speeds due to its advanced 55nm manufacturing process, potentially challenging Nvidia's current 9800 GX2 and 9800 GTX boards in terms of performance. The new GeForce 9900 series, which will launch in the second half this year is expected to continue the adoption of the G92 design.

Although Nvidia has not officially confirmed it, the new GeForce 9900 series are expected to be part of the company's GT200 platform.

Today's news come to confirm the words of Nvidia's Jeff Brown, who unveilled last week the company's plans to release its next GPU in the next couple of months. He said that the updated GPU would have 1 billion transistors. and feature 200 unified shader processors. Nvidia's current G92 GPUs feature 128 shaders.

Nvidia has not confirmed these early reports.

Nvidia also plans to launch the GeForce 9600 GSO GPU next month to compete with AMD's Radeon HD 3830. The GeForce 9600 GSO will based on the company's G92 GPU and will target the mid-range graphics card market.
http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Details.aspx?NewsId=23056

stevemedes
04-20-08, 02:29 PM
rehash some g92 some more? lawlz

CaptNKILL
04-20-08, 02:54 PM
Who wants to bet that they are going to be clocked like 50Mhz higher than the 9800GTX and still only have 512Mb of memory. :lol:

Dazz
04-20-08, 03:07 PM
I mst say 512MB is not enough games are coming close to using the full 512MB so future proof they are not.

XDanger
04-20-08, 03:46 PM
Milking a dead horse.

Wait thats not milk.

CaptNKILL
04-20-08, 03:51 PM
I mst say 512MB is not enough games are coming close to using the full 512MB so future proof they are not.
Some games used more than 512Mb 4 years ago. It blows my mind that they are still limiting the cards to that amount of memory, especially after we've had 768Mb for almost a year and a half.

LovingSticky
04-20-08, 03:59 PM
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K007
04-20-08, 04:19 PM
Hmm...this is so hard....i need a gpu upgrade...yet...its hard to say if i can hold out for 2 months or so for this 9900 series...I really want to crank up my settings for cod4 ><...

methimpikehoses
04-20-08, 04:22 PM
Milking a dead horse.

Wait thats not milk.

:rofl

Revs
04-20-08, 04:31 PM
I read somewhere yesterday (dunno how true it is) that's it's gonna be 1.3 billion transistors, 1024mb RAM with a 512-bit bus. GPU clocked at about 650mhz, shader at 1500mhz.

It's gonna be a hell of a hot chip if so.

LovingSticky
04-20-08, 04:51 PM
I read somewhere yesterday (dunno how true it is) that's it's gonna be 1.3 billion transistors, 1024mb RAM with a 512-bit bus. GPU clocked at about 650mhz, shader at 1500mhz.

It's gonna be a hell of a hot chip if so.

That is GT200, to be launched in Q3/Q4. A whole different card, 9800GX2 killer.

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7644.html

SH64
04-20-08, 04:53 PM
Oh Please ffs enough with the G92's!!

Bman212121
04-20-08, 05:03 PM
Some games used more than 512Mb 4 years ago. It blows my mind that they are still limiting the cards to that amount of memory, especially after we've had 768Mb for almost a year and a half.


IIRC wasn't there an issue with handling all of that memory on the 32 bit system? I think I read and article a while ago about having limitations with cards over 1GB of ram because the addressing limitation included system ram as well.

CaptNKILL
04-20-08, 05:08 PM
IIRC wasn't there an issue with handling all of that memory on the 32 bit system? I think I read and article a while ago about having limitations with cards over 1GB of ram because the addressing limitation included system ram as well.
That's true. Seems like there is still room to move to 1gb cards though. If someone needs SLI (2Gb of graphics memory) and 4gb of system memory, they'll just have to get a 64bit OS.

Bman212121
04-20-08, 05:11 PM
That's true. Seems like there is still room to move to 1gb cards though. If someone needs SLI (2Gb of graphics memory) and 4gb of system memory, they'll just have to get a 64bit OS.

The problem with that is even with a 64 bit OS, your 32 bit app will probably take a dump because it can't figure out how to access everything. I can count on one hand the number of 64 bit games that I know of.

I did find a little article about it here. http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3602/sponsored_feature_ram_vram_and_.php?print=1

I would gladly welcome 1GB of Vram as well, but one again it probably comes back to the devs not making their games 64 bit compatible. It's only been 5 years since AMD64 came out...

Mr_LoL
04-21-08, 01:14 AM
They must regret making the 8800GTX almost too good. They are now finding it very difficult to better it. Unless they are just holding back which blows my theory out of the water.

CaptNKILL
04-21-08, 02:03 AM
The problem with that is even with a 64 bit OS, your 32 bit app will probably take a dump because it can't figure out how to access everything. I can count on one hand the number of 64 bit games that I know of.

I did find a little article about it here. http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3602/sponsored_feature_ram_vram_and_.php?print=1

I would gladly welcome 1GB of Vram as well, but one again it probably comes back to the devs not making their games 64 bit compatible. It's only been 5 years since AMD64 came out...
I've never heard of 32bit games having problems dealing with systems running 64bit OSes and lots of memory.

What games have issues like that?

Redeemed
04-21-08, 02:43 AM
I've never heard of 32bit games having problems dealing with systems running 64bit OSes and lots of memory.

What games have issues like that?
None. If I'm understanding what he was saying correctly.

Unless I'm mistaken, what he said was, basicly, that a 32-bit app (game for this scenerio) could only address up to 4GM of memory... and we all know there's multiple kinds of "memory". Having more than a total of 4GM of memory would then cause the 32-bit app to crash, as it is unable to address all of the available memory.

If that is what he meant, then he is *way* off. Otherwise I'd like him to explain how I was able to have 4GB of system RAM, 4GB page file, and dual 640MB 8800GTS and not have a single 32-bit app (games included) dump on me. Adding it up, that's a total of 9280GB of memory available. Obviously well beyond the 32-bit 4096MB limit of addressing.

Mind you, I'm running Vista x64, as I was then as well.

Now, with my rig (4GB RAM, 512MB framebuffer, no page file) I am still 512MB over the 32-bit addressable space... yet I've not had a single 32-bit app "dump" on me. I honestly fail to see how what he said can hold true... unless I'm misunderstanding him.

With all that said, I can fully understand why neither nVidia nor AMD are releasing high-end parts with 1GB of framebuffer yet. Most people are running 32-bit OS's... and the more framebuffer, the less system RAM and pagefile the computer can utilise. By having a 512MB framebuffer, that leaves 3.5GB free for everything else (system RAM, pagefiile...). More than likely the next batch of cards from nVidia (sporting the brand new from the ground up architecture) might sport 1GB of framebuffer, as that card will be targeting the hardcore enthusiast ($600 a card is far from within' reach of the mainstream gamer), while the lesser card (GTS version) might sport between 512MB and 768MB of framebuffer. This, in my mind, would be ideal. The "lesser" version would have sufficient framebuffer to be relatively future proof for most dedicated gamers, while the high end part would have more than enough framebuffer for even the hardiest of gamers. And the mainstream parts could then have 512MB of framebuffer, and the low-end parts can have 128MB and 256MB. I think that'd be a well round batch of cards, IMO. Whether it'd actually turnout that way or not is a different matter...

K007
04-21-08, 03:42 AM
sif confuse pagefile with system ram limitation -.-.

pagefile = hdd

ASUSEN7900GTX
04-21-08, 04:20 AM
Here is what i found about thsi G92b


G92b will more than likely be a intact G92 @ 55nm, with GDDR5 memory.
The GTX will probably be clocked at 800-850MHz GPU, GDDR5-3000 - GDDR5-3600, 1998 - 2052MHz SPs.
256BIT BUS Width.

A single 9900GTX will be slower than your SLI setup there.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums...mp;postcount=94

so i donīt know if itīs true but if it is
itīs gonna be a killer and a must have but i wiat until i see some genuine tests of it but still impressive if itīs true

Revs
04-21-08, 04:43 AM
NVIDIA GT200 early last month has been silicon success

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://www.mp-ofp.com/bbs/redirect.php%3Ffid%3D84%26tid%3D25704%26goto%3Dnex toldset&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=7&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3D9900%2BGTX%26start%3D10%26hl%3Den%26l r%3D%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26sa%3DN%26as_qdr%3Dd

even reference designs have been shipped several weeks.

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GeForce 9900 family of graphics cards will be based on a 55 nm chip G92b

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://www.pcnews.by/news/hard/newsid3160/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=8&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3D9900%2BGTX%26start%3D10%26hl%3Den%26l r%3D%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26sa%3DN%26as_qdr%3Dd

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Earlier, we revealed that Nvidia is planning to release GeForce 9800 GT based on 55nm G92 core in July and now we learned a little more details on this new card. The new 9800GT card is codenamed G92-280 and it is using a new P393-C00 PCB that supports Hybrid Power. There will be 256MB and 512MB GDDR3 versions that clocked at 900MHz and 975MHz respectively. The core clock has not been determined yet but it should clock higher than the current GeForce 8800 GT which is at 600MHz default. Outputs are 2 x DVI-I and HDTV.

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/More_55nm_GeForce_9800_GT_Info/5724.html

Sounds like the 9900GT is gonna be the 1st G92b card. HDMI-out would be nice.

SilentMercury
04-21-08, 05:00 AM
Hmm...this is so hard....i need a gpu upgrade...yet...its hard to say if i can hold out for 2 months or so for this 9900 series...I really want to crank up my settings for cod4 ><...

I had a 7950GX2 up until a couple months ago. That thing kinda sucked with COD4.

walterman
04-21-08, 06:04 AM
Please, no more refurbished G92s :thumbdwn:

K007
04-21-08, 06:40 AM
I had a 7950GX2 up until a couple months ago. That thing kinda sucked with COD4.

Its ok as long as u dont use some of the features like dof/shadows, those things kill the fps big time on it, the 8 series with its new features defiantly does help in there....but i don't want to buy something now and have the 9900 anal rape the crap out of everything ever known to man.....:headexplode: ..and for a same price cost (lee) ...

hirantha
04-21-08, 09:39 AM
i sold my 8800GTX and got a GT i regret is so much..:( but lets hope 9900 series can bring me out of my misery.